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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks 

Post#1821 » by M-C-G » Thu Mar 24, 2022 4:23 pm

MikeIsGood wrote:I guess Parker would be a consolation prize now that it's presumed Landry stays with Cleveland since Watson wound up there. I know it's not exactly the assertion, but just to make it plain and clear - in no way, shape, or form should we (or anyone) give up a top 60 pick for Parker. Not top 90 or maybe 120, either. I would be down with trading a 5th, but I don't think I go higher. Acknowledging he hasn't played with any sort of QB talent in his career, it doesn't change the fact that he's still had exactly one productive season. His value doesn't go up because of what happened three seasons ago. We don't really know what he has right now.


I feel like Cory Davis would come at a similar price point but already has a basis in the MLF offense. Both would probably be a shrewd move.

As much as I respect Tyreek Hills game, no idea what Miami is trying to do with that WR room right now. Feel like Waddle in a perfect world would just be your Tyreek in the offense, but now they are almost doubling up on that role, which, well, it is weird.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks 

Post#1822 » by WeekapaugGroove » Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:01 pm

I'm not out on Metcalf but you do have to view the transaction as costing a pick(s) + the opportunity cost of another player or two because of his future contract. Makes it much more of a debate. I wouldn't make the trade without an extension worked out ahead of time but hey if they talk to his agent and find a number for an extension that they are comfortable with then sure.

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks 

Post#1823 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:14 pm

Lockett will be 30 this fall. I can't see a way for Seattle to absorb $31 million in dead cap money. There's probably cap magic that can be done with his contract, maybe adding a couple years or whatever but I highly doubt we'll be trading for him. Metcalf doesn't have the dead money issue but he'll be a FA after this season and we have Jaire and Gary who will need new contracts. It's tough.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks 

Post#1824 » by stillgotgame » Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:19 pm

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That's good to hear. I'm sure he'd be fun to watch in GB. Just don't know if I'd give up a 1st for either. I know that's the fun new trendy thing to do in the NFL (trading your picks for vets) but I'm on the fence of that being the way to go, to refill the WR cupboard.

Giving up a 1st for Metcalf is an absolute no-brainer. You're not going to find a better receiver in that range (late 1st). Ultimately I don't think Lockett will get moved for financial reasons. But he could likely be had for a 2nd.



Giving up a 1st for DK who signs an extension for 4 years/77 mil with 38 mil guaranteed (or something close to this).......yes no brainer.

Giving up a 1st for 1 year of DK where we might have to franchise him or lose him for nothing because we now have to focus on Jaire/Jenkins? I don't think that is a good idea.


No chance he’s signing that extension after the money handed out the last 2 weeks. We’d have to work something out before the trade though, would be tough.
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Post#1825 » by Treebeard » Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:20 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Lockett will be 30 this fall. I can't see a way for Seattle to absorb $31 million in dead cap money. There's probably cap magic that can be done with his contract, maybe adding a couple years or whatever but I highly doubt we'll be trading for him. Metcalf doesn't have the dead money issue but he'll be a FA after this season and we have Jaire and Gary who will need new contracts. It's tough.


Jenkins too, correct?
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks 

Post#1826 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:22 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:Lockett will be 30 this fall. I can't see a way for Seattle to absorb $31 million in dead cap money. There's probably cap magic that can be done with his contract, maybe adding a couple years or whatever but I highly doubt we'll be trading for him. Metcalf doesn't have the dead money issue but he'll be a FA after this season and we have Jaire and Gary who will need new contracts. It's tough.


Jenkins too, correct?

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Post#1827 » by Mags FTW » Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:30 pm

If we don't get a WR before the draft, I can almost see Gute doing his version of Wolf's Randy Moss DB draft where we draft one WR in the 1st, one in the 2nd, and at least one in the 3rd/4th. No matter where they were picked you just hope it yields at least 1 stud and 1 solid guy.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks 

Post#1828 » by ReddRum » Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:17 pm

Edit: Didn't know this was in the other thread...

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Post#1829 » by CWoodfan » Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:28 pm

11 draft picks in the upcoming 2022 draft.

MVS should garner a comp pick in the 2023 draft.

No NFL team pretends to go ALL IN while accumulating picks for the future like the GREEN BAY FOOTBALL PACKERS.
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Post#1830 » by Gianstoppable » Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:45 pm

CWoodfan wrote:11 draft picks in the upcoming 2022 draft.

MVS should garner a comp pick in the 2023 draft.

No NFL team pretends to go ALL IN while accumulating picks for the future like the GREEN BAY FOOTBALL PACKERS.

Ill be shocked if the Packers dont trade any of those picks. Im guessing we sign Fuller and trade for a WR
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Post#1831 » by RRyder823 » Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:01 pm

There's that all in tune. Been a while since I heard it

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Post#1832 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:09 pm

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Post#1833 » by WeekapaugGroove » Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:14 pm

CWoodfan wrote:11 draft picks in the upcoming 2022 draft.

MVS should garner a comp pick in the 2023 draft.

No NFL team pretends to go ALL IN while accumulating picks for the future like the GREEN BAY FOOTBALL PACKERS.
Draft hasn't happened yet.

Draft picks are useful tools when you are all in because you need to fill out the roster with rookie scale contracts.

You probably would have complained if the Pack gave MVS that contract.

Your complaints are fine, but it's becoming a broken record. Maybe throw your thoughts in your sig and that will save you from posting the same thing multiple times.

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Post#1834 » by CWoodfan » Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:24 pm

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CWoodfan wrote:11 draft picks in the upcoming 2022 draft.

MVS should garner a comp pick in the 2023 draft.

No NFL team pretends to go ALL IN while accumulating picks for the future like the GREEN BAY FOOTBALL PACKERS.
Draft hasn't happened yet.

Draft picks are useful tools when you are all in

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So are receiving threats.

The Packers currently have the worst combo of TEs & WRs in the NFL. Bar none.

Unless, Gute is willing to buck 20+ years of Packer precedent/obstinance and allow another NFL team to pry a draft pick out of his cold, dead hands in return for a legitimate receiving threat, then it is just the dregs left in free agency and/or rookies who will fill the void. Yeah right.

And we know from all of the defenders of the Jordan Love draft pick that FIRST YEAR WRs could not possibly have helped the Packers get to the SB in 2020, so looks like any rookies will be of no help in 2022.

Still time to make a move or two obviously, but this team has not traded a round 1-4 pick for an NFL players since ??????
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Post#1835 » by TroyD92 » Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:37 pm

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Kidd would have curb stomped him.

Maybe if his name was Denise instead of Dennis.


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Post#1836 » by LikeABosh » Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:49 pm

M-C-G wrote:I'm a hard no on DK. Lots of concerns with how that guy will age, what his next contract will look like, and frankly I'd rather just trade for Chase Claypool and sign Will Fuller and get likely more production out of what would be less cost per year when you factor in any extension for DK..


Ok, but he's 24. I don't think this is a concern for another 4-5 years. I agree on the contract though. He'll obviously want to be paid even more than Tyreke and Adams next year
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Post#1837 » by RRyder823 » Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:12 pm

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So id either assume Reed isn't officially signed yet or they just haven't disclosed a restructure yet cause they aren't allowed to be "below 0$ in cap space" right now.

I'd guess they're trying to get a Jaire extension done to free up space to sign Reed and if they can't it'll be a Lowry restructure

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Post#1838 » by M-C-G » Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:53 pm

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M-C-G wrote:I'm a hard no on DK. Lots of concerns with how that guy will age, what his next contract will look like, and frankly I'd rather just trade for Chase Claypool and sign Will Fuller and get likely more production out of what would be less cost per year when you factor in any extension for DK..


Ok, but he's 24. I don't think this is a concern for another 4-5 years. I agree on the contract though. He'll obviously want to be paid even more than Tyreke and Adams next year

And he just had pins removed from his foot, and doesn’t he have a back or,some other issue that caused his draft to drop? My point is if I am using a first and planning 100M+ on the contract, he is not my guy. That said I get the appeal, I really do.

I’ll also make the point I would never pay WR this kind of money, I think it is nuts.


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Post#1839 » by WeekapaugGroove » Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:41 pm

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So id either assume Reed isn't officially signed yet or they just haven't disclosed a restructure yet cause they aren't allowed to be "below 0$ in cap space" right now.

I'd guess they're trying to get a Jaire extension done to free up space to sign Reed and if they can't it'll be a Lowry restructure

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I looked at the tweet thread and his 0 number is with expected cap of incoming draft picks. Something that does matter but as you mentioned they aren't actually above it currently.



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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks 

Post#1840 » by RRyder823 » Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:03 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
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So id either assume Reed isn't officially signed yet or they just haven't disclosed a restructure yet cause they aren't allowed to be "below 0$ in cap space" right now.

I'd guess they're trying to get a Jaire extension done to free up space to sign Reed and if they can't it'll be a Lowry restructure

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I looked at the tweet thread and his 0 number is with expected cap of incoming draft picks. Something that does matter but as you mentioned they aren't actually above it currently.



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