Offseason Plan

[FAH1223]

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After Beal threw shade at his whole team on TV, Kuzma went to the peoples' choice for media to throw shade in reverse.
But in a backhanded, biatchy way.

The Lakers had the Kobe and Shaq feud. We have Kyle 'pink sweater' Kuzma and The Wizards Franchise Player (tm) Brad Beal.

This team is hilarious.

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...Brunson Daniels
Beal Kispert
KCP Otto
Avdija Hachimura
Porzingis Gafford

Yes sir! 1000%. Deep team, much better than the current disjointed squad. And Daniels is going to be a pro.

Hope so, but... it's pretty questionable.

Brunson -- beyond our reach. Now... if we do acquire him, for sure you are right that he'd be a nice plus! For that matter, so would Tyus Jones. Nobody's perfect, but those guys are better than what we've got. & they do feed our future.

Daniels -- doesn't he have a good shot to be gone before we pick? In any case, he'll be a rookie.

Beal -- will be way overpaid. I.e. he will not earn his salary. By definition that means he's a problem not the solution to a problem. Still, we all hope that he does return to his form of the previous 3 seasons. Problem is that we were a terrible team each of those seasons!

Otto -- should get multiple offers. Does it really seem likely he'll want to make a return visit to our roster? Not to mention that it'll be easy enough to outbid us b/c of our over-burdened salary structure.

Avdija -- good building block

Kispert -- so far looks the same.

Hachimura -- yes, Rui has been a bit better overall than he was as a rookie, & that's a good thing. But, he's certainly not established at a plus level in the league & not all that close to doing it. Still, maybe he has more improvement in him. Hope for it but don't count it as a given. His current play doesn't help propel this team.

Porzingis -- the single most significant fact about KP is that he has led no team to anything good in any season. Period. He has made no team better. Not the Knicks & not Dallas. Still, he is playing pretty well for us in 210 minutes -- a stretch in which we are 2-7 -- & did have a big role in both wins, no doubt about it.

Gafford can play 20 minutes a game. Still, he's really good when in the game.

KCP -- what can he help us achieve? Why would we pick up his option? Is he a bargain at his salary -- meaning that we'd be able to trade him for a plus value return? Use Harrell as an example -- guy was terrific for us. We got a R2 pick, a young prospect (who was also a R2 pick) & the expiring contract of Ish Smith. Would we get more than that for KCP? Still... that alone would be worth picking up the option. But, unless he plays at a much higher level next year, it's hard to see him as much help.

In all, I find it really hard to see how this is a sensible, strategic, positive plan. It's hard to see why a better plan wouldn't be simply to start over. Get as many & as young assets as we can for anyone older than, say, 24 (including Porzingis) -- & try to build a team that is actually good.

Painful? Sure! But so was the 2018-19 season. So was the 2019-20 season. So was the 2020-21 season. & so is this season.

We are 10-38 in the last 48. Consistent w/ the 2-7 we are in our last 9. Adding Brunson (even if it were possible), a rookie guard, & Otto Porter isn't going to solve the problem we have!

Still, yeah, let's draft Daniels if he's the best prospect on the board when our turn comes. Or draft whoever is the best. That's not at question. & any other move that gets us more draft picks is also a plus. Maybe some day the picture will be prettier.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

...Brunson Daniels
Beal Kispert
KCP Otto
Avdija Hachimura
Porzingis Gafford

Yes sir! 1000%. Deep team, much better than the current disjointed squad. And Daniels is going to be a pro.

Hope so, but... it's pretty questionable.

Brunson -- beyond our reach. Now... if we do acquire him, for sure you are right that he'd be a nice plus! For that matter, so would Tyus Jones. Nobody's perfect, but those guys are better than what we've got. & they do feed our future.

Daniels -- doesn't he have a good shot to be gone before we pick? In any case, he'll be a rookie.

Beal -- will be way overpaid. I.e. he will not earn his salary. By definition that means he's a problem not the solution to a problem. Still, we all hope that he does return to his form of the previous 3 seasons. Problem is that we were a terrible team each of those seasons!

Otto -- should get multiple offers. Does it really seem likely he'll want to make a return visit to our roster? Not to mention that it'll be easy enough to outbid us b/c of our over-burdened salary structure.

Avdija -- good building block

Kispert -- so far looks the same.

Hachimura -- yes, Rui has been a bit better overall than he was as a rookie, & that's a good thing. But, he's certainly not established at a plus level in the league & not all that close to doing it. Still, maybe he has more improvement in him. Hope for it but don't count it as a given. His current play doesn't help propel this team.

Porzingis -- the single most significant fact about KP is that he has led no team to anything good in any season. Period. He has made no team better. Not the Knicks & not Dallas. Still, he is playing pretty well for us in 210 minutes -- a stretch in which we are 2-7 -- & did have a big role in both wins, no doubt about it.

Gafford can play 20 minutes a game. Still, he's really good when in the game.

KCP -- what can he help us achieve? Why would we pick up his option? Is he a bargain at his salary -- meaning that we'd be able to trade him for a plus value return? Use Harrell as an example -- guy was terrific for us. We got a R2 pick, a young prospect (who was also a R2 pick) & the expiring contract of Ish Smith. Would we get more than that for KCP? Still... that alone would be worth picking up the option. But, unless he plays at a much higher level next year, it's hard to see him as much help.

In all, I find it really hard to see how this is a sensible, strategic, positive plan. It's hard to see why a better plan wouldn't be simply to start over. Get as many & as young assets as we can for anyone older than, say, 24 (including Porzingis) -- & try to build a team that is actually good.

Painful? Sure! But so was the 2018-19 season. So was the 2019-20 season. So was the 2020-21 season. & so is this season.

We are 10-38 in the last 48. Consistent w/ the 2-7 we are in our last 9. Adding Brunson (even if it were possible), a rookie guard, & Otto Porter isn't going to solve the problem we have!

Still, yeah, let's draft Daniels if he's the best prospect on the board when our turn comes. Or draft whoever is the best. That's not at question. & any other move that gets us more draft picks is also a plus. Maybe some day the picture will be prettier.

Free agent target Tyus Jones.

Draft targets Daniels, Mathurin, Branham.

C - Porzingis, Gafford, Carey
PF- Kuzma, Hachimura, Gil
SF- KCP, Avdija, Kispert
SG- Beal, 1st round pick, Ayayi
PG- Jones, Satoransky, Ish

[nate33]

Brunson -- beyond our reach. Now... if we do acquire him, for sure you are right that he'd be a nice plus! For that matter, so would Tyus Jones. Nobody's perfect, but those guys are better than what we've got. & they do feed our future.

Brunson is not beyond our reach. Dallas has a payroll of $149M next season NOT counting Brunson's salary. I don't see how they can pay him the $20M-ish it's going to cost.

Of course, that same dynamic will make it hard to engineer a S&T. If they can't afford Brunson at $20M, are they going to want to do a S&T with Kuzma and take on his $13M salary? I suppose it's possible. Dallas is pretty thin in the front court. Bullock and DFS are small forwards, leaving only Kleber and Bertans as natural PF's, and Kleber plays a lot of small-ball 5.

We do have a couple of TPE's that could help here. We could absorb Trey Burke's salary into our Aaron Holiday TPE and save Dallas another $3.5M. (Or absorb Sterling Brown's $3M.)

KCP -- what can he help us achieve? Why would we pick up his option? Is he a bargain at his salary -- meaning that we'd be able to trade him for a plus value return? Use Harrell as an example -- guy was terrific for us. We got a R2 pick, a young prospect (who was also a R2 pick) & the expiring contract of Ish Smith. Would we get more than that for KCP? Still... that alone would be worth picking up the option. But, unless he plays at a much higher level next year, it's hard to see him as much help.

Yes, KCP is a bargain at his salary. The difference between him and Harrell is that playoff teams are always in need of 3&D prototype wings. You can never have enough of those guys. Harrell, although a very good player, is not the type of player that teams typically seek to add at the trade deadline. Most teams expect to play smaller in the playoffs and aren't interested in extra depth at center.

KCP is an asset. He should be retained so that he can ultimately be moved for a future asset.

[FAH1223]

Loved how Tyus Jones played last night for the Grizz against the Nets. Calm, getting the sets run, and he finished with 16 and 10 dimes.

I think Wes would like him.

[Ruzious]

Loved how Tyus Jones played last night for the Grizz against the Nets. Calm, getting the sets run, and he finished with 16 and 10 dimes.

I think Wes would like him.

I still believe in pure PG's who control the pace and look pass first - even though the NBA seems to have gone away from them in favor of combo guards. Jones is a natural pure PG.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Loved how Tyus Jones played last night for the Grizz against the Nets. Calm, getting the sets run, and he finished with 16 and 10 dimes.

I think Wes would like him.

15-2 Without Ja Morant

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[FAH1223]

Loved how Tyus Jones played last night for the Grizz against the Nets. Calm, getting the sets run, and he finished with 16 and 10 dimes.

I think Wes would like him.

15-2 Without Ja Morant

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And they're a title contender with Ja Morant.

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Loved how Tyus Jones played last night for the Grizz against the Nets. Calm, getting the sets run, and he finished with 16 and 10 dimes.

I think Wes would like him.

I still believe in pure PG's who control the pace and look pass first - even though the NBA seems to have gone away from them in favor of combo guards. Jones is a natural pure PG.

That's my ideal PG as well.

Prior to the Grizz-Nets game last night K. Perkins called Tyus Jones the "best backup PG" in the NBA. Comments/opinions like that are just going to make Jones more expensive this offseason.

[FAH1223]

After Beal threw shade at his whole team on TV, Kuzma went to the peoples' choice for media to throw shade in reverse.
But in a backhanded, biatchy way.

The Lakers had the Kobe and Shaq feud. We have Kyle 'pink sweater' Kuzma and The Wizards Franchise Player (tm) Brad Beal.

This team is hilarious.

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[gambitx777]

It's been a couple years if wall is over the off the floor stuff I'd love to have him back at mid level money Westbrook too.

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[Dark Faze]

We knew that about John....but I think we get more fight from Brad to not let that happen if Westbrook isn't part of the trade.

[GoneShammGone]

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In all, I find it really hard to see how this is a sensible, strategic, positive plan. It's hard to see why a better plan wouldn't be simply to start over. Get as many & as young assets as we can for anyone older than, say, 24 (including Porzingis) -- & try to build a team that is actually good.

Painful? Sure! But so was the 2018-19 season. So was the 2019-20 season. So was the 2020-21 season. & so is this season.

We are 10-38 in the last 48. Consistent w/ the 2-7 we are in our last 9. Adding Brunson (even if it were possible), a rookie guard, & Otto Porter isn't going to solve the problem we have!

Yeah, this is where I'm at now. This team is dead but doesn't seem to know it. It's a zombie organization. We're a zombie fan-base. We're just going through the motions here like we root for a real NBA franchise. We're all just wandering around, glassy-eyed, mumbling "Traaaaaades.... TRAAAAAAAADES", like that's going to solve anything.

Every once and a while there's a loss so starkly horrifying that we flirt with self-awareness for a moment, but reality is too painful to accept, so we slip back into our autonomic responses. Such is "life" for a Wizards fan under Ted's ownership.

[gambitx777]

I really like Rui and don't wanna trade him. But the smart money on how this is gonna play out is that he's gonna come out next year healthy bombing 3's and looking like a stud in a contract year and in true wizards tradition tes will dust off the check book for him. To which he will get hurt or regress and then we have to make another mericle trade to clean up a bad contract. I love Rui and want him on the team long term for a good deal but. I can't be blind to what the odds are and if he's playing well you might have to consider moving him or risk the formentioned coming to pass. Which is that's a risk you're willing to take and the teams winning cool go for it. But I'm just making a point here.

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[FAH1223]

I would use Rui or Kuz as trade bait to find a legit PG.

[NatP4]

Adding Brunson (quality starting PG) to a team that has no quality guards whatsoever outside of Beal, would be a massive change.

Subtracting Kuzma, who has consistently put up the worst on/off numbers on any team he has been a part of for his entire 5 year career consisting of over 10,000 minutes played, is a massive change.

Adding an impact player (Porzingis), even if it’s only for 50-60 games next year, is a pretty significant change.

Despite that Dyson Daniels would be a rookie guard, this is a guy with professional experience. A player that is leading the entire G-league in on/off differential. Already a strong positive impact player and an elite defender. He will be a plus from day 1 in the league. That’s a smaller change, but will help.

I’m not sure Otto would have any interest in coming back to DC, but we can easily sign him for the full MLE. He’s only playing 20 minutes a game for GS. He’s back to his old self, a highly impactful two way player. Even just 20 minutes a game for 50-60 games would be huge.

Also, just having Beal back after missing the entire 2nd half of this season, will be a huge change.

There’s no way that all those changes wouldn’t significantly improve the future of this team. You’re not giving away any assets of any kind. We have to stop acting like Tyus Jones is in the same tier as Brunson. I like Jones, but this isn’t a comparison. One guy is just a rotation piece, the other is a high level starter.

[NatP4]

The organization has 3 problems that they refuse to identity:

1. Unseld Jr is a mediocre coach at best
2. Beal is not worth the supermax that they are about to give him
3. Kyle Kuzma is a horrible player not worthy of playing 30+ minutes a night.

[doclinkin]

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In all, I find it really hard to see how this is a sensible, strategic, positive plan. It's hard to see why a better plan wouldn't be simply to start over. Get as many & as young assets as we can for anyone older than, say, 24 (including Porzingis) -- & try to build a team that is actually good.

Painful? Sure! But so was the 2018-19 season. So was the 2019-20 season. So was the 2020-21 season. & so is this season.

We are 10-38 in the last 48. Consistent w/ the 2-7 we are in our last 9. Adding Brunson (even if it were possible), a rookie guard, & Otto Porter isn't going to solve the problem we have!

Yeah, this is where I'm at now. This team is dead but doesn't seem to know it. It's a zombie organization. We're a zombie fan-base. We're just going through the motions here like we root for a real NBA franchise. We're all just wandering around, glassy-eyed, mumbling "Traaaaaades.... TRAAAAAAAADES", like that's going to solve anything.

Every once and a while there's a loss so starkly horrifying that we flirt with self-awareness for a moment, but reality is too painful to accept, so we slip back into our autonomic responses. Such is "life" for a Wizards fan under Ted's ownership.

HA! See my sole source of hope is that Tommy is a magician at making a radical change when least expected. Yeah the results are the same, but if something is not working Tommy is impatient and restless to swap it out. The Wall Westbrook LA Mob Porzingis sequence has been a giddy ride. AND the fact that there are no leaks of these things in advance (okay with John Wall there were rumors, but that is on Ted) the fact that these things pop up out of nowhere suggests that at any moment Tommy might do something crazy.

[nate33]

I've come around on Jalen Brunson and am fully on board with trading Kuzma for him, but I don't see how to make it work for Dallas financially. The best we can do is Kuzma + Neto for Brunson (with a Brunson deal starting at $20M with full raises, if he'll take it) and then follow by trading our TPE for Trey Burke.

The motivation for Dallas is to pay Kuzma and Neto a combined $15M rather than pay Brunson and Burke a combined $23.5M given their luxtax issues. But I'm not sure that's enough incentive. If I was Dallas, I'd probably rather just keep Brunson, or just let him walk rather than absorbing Kuzma and Neto.

So with Brunson seeming unlikely, I think the likely scenario is that we will add an MLE PG (hopefully Tyus Jones, but maybe a guy like Rubio) and draft a guard. But with the draft strong in SG's and weak and PG's, I'm assuming we will draft a SG. My guess is that they'll grab Mathurin since he appears to have the most NBA-ready skillset right now.