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Re: Robert Williams, aka TimeLord 

Post#201 » by Fencer reregistered » Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:45 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:I could be wrong but Timelord has a bonus incentive if he doesn't miss any more RS games (69 games), is selected for All-Defense, and if team reaches ECF.


All three have to happen?

Is it big enough to push the Cs into the luxury tax after all?
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Post#202 » by BK_2020 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:05 pm

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zoyathedestroya wrote:I could be wrong but Timelord has a bonus incentive if he doesn't miss any more RS games (69 games), is selected for All-Defense, and if team reaches ECF.


All three have to happen?

Is it big enough to push the Cs into the luxury tax after all?


I thought he was on his rookie scale contract this season.
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Re: Robert Williams, aka TimeLord 

Post#203 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:14 pm

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zoyathedestroya wrote:I could be wrong but Timelord has a bonus incentive if he doesn't miss any more RS games (69 games), is selected for All-Defense, and if team reaches ECF.


All three have to happen?

Is it big enough to push the Cs into the luxury tax after all?


I thought he was on his rookie scale contract this season.

Oh, that's right. Incentives will apply to his next year's salary.
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Re: Robert Williams, aka TimeLord 

Post#204 » by Fencer reregistered » Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:27 pm

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All three have to happen?

Is it big enough to push the Cs into the luxury tax after all?


I thought he was on his rookie scale contract this season.

Oh, that's right. Incentives will apply to his next year's salary.


Whew.

It does feel like this may be the Celtics' last season out of the luxury tax for a while.
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Re: Robert Williams, aka TimeLord 

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Re: Robert Williams, aka TimeLord 

Post#206 » by ParticleMan » Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:13 pm

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I thought he was on his rookie scale contract this season.

Oh, that's right. Incentives will apply to his next year's salary.


Whew.

It does feel like this may be the Celtics' last season out of the luxury tax for a while.


Yeah there is zero chance of being under the tax for the next few years without a major overhaul. The only guy coming off is Horford, but we will almost certainly keep him next year and then after that we have to re-up Marcus.

I think Wyc+co have shown the willingness to go into the tax so long as we are genuinely competitive for a title. Which hopefully we will be.
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Post#208 » by Hal14 » Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:55 pm

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seems like (especially lately) he steps up even more when he's going against another elite center like Embiid, Jokic and Gobert. He wants to be known as one of the the best bigs in the league!
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Re: Robert Williams, aka TimeLord 

Post#209 » by BrianFitz » Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:48 pm

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I cry a little inside every time rob stands there wide open while we take 10 seconds to get the ball back to the jays, SHOOT IT!! I believe in him, I wish the coaches did too. even if he isn't good in practice, he's too young not to try and build!

I hear ya. I think he's always working on his jumper. Right now. though, he's like not a knock down shooter in that 18-20 foot range. So until then, it's a numbers game - he (and the coaching staff) probably figures that if he takes that 18-20 footer with plenty of time left on the shot clock, there's what a 30-40, maybe 50% chance it goes in. Instead, they'd rather keep working for a better shot, one that is more in the wheelhouse for 1 of the 5 players on the court at the time, which has a higher chance of going in, or even if it's a slightly lower chance of going in, if it does go in it gives us 3 points instead of 2..

You watch Capela, Gobert, Steven Adams, Richaun Holmes, etc. they do the same thing when they get the ball that far from the basket. They stand there and look for either a cutter or someone out on perimeter to pass to or dribble hand-off to..


They get taken right out of the playoffs too. I want Rob to evolve to where he's at least not afraid to shoot. Then again, I keep seeing the stat on his offensive impact so wth can I really quibble about? :o :lol:


Williams has much more defensive versatility than Gobert. I don't worry, like at all, when he gets switched onto a smaller player on the perimeter. Him and Horford are absolute masters at keeping smalls in front of them. Meanwhile Rudy is on an island when he is out defending the perimeter.

Don't get me wrong, Gobert is a monster defender. And it obviously helps a ton that Rob and Al have other phenomenal defenders to help out as well, unlike the Jazz. But I don't think there is the worry that Williams will become unplayable in the playoffs, jump shot or no jump shot.
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Re: Robert Williams, aka TimeLord 

Post#210 » by BK_2020 » Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:21 pm

Gobert is absolutely elite in terms of defending perimeter players, probably the best in the league among bigs. He's not as agile as RWill3, being 5 inches taller, but his footwork, skill, length, savvy, and court sense are extraordinary.
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Post#213 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:25 pm

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Hal14 wrote:I hear ya. I think he's always working on his jumper. Right now. though, he's like not a knock down shooter in that 18-20 foot range. So until then, it's a numbers game - he (and the coaching staff) probably figures that if he takes that 18-20 footer with plenty of time left on the shot clock, there's what a 30-40, maybe 50% chance it goes in. Instead, they'd rather keep working for a better shot, one that is more in the wheelhouse for 1 of the 5 players on the court at the time, which has a higher chance of going in, or even if it's a slightly lower chance of going in, if it does go in it gives us 3 points instead of 2..

You watch Capela, Gobert, Steven Adams, Richaun Holmes, etc. they do the same thing when they get the ball that far from the basket. They stand there and look for either a cutter or someone out on perimeter to pass to or dribble hand-off to..


They get taken right out of the playoffs too. I want Rob to evolve to where he's at least not afraid to shoot. Then again, I keep seeing the stat on his offensive impact so wth can I really quibble about? :o :lol:


Williams has much more defensive versatility than Gobert. I don't worry, like at all, when he gets switched onto a smaller player on the perimeter. Him and Horford are absolute masters at keeping smalls in front of them. Meanwhile Rudy is on an island when he is out defending the perimeter.

Don't get me wrong, Gobert is a monster defender. And it obviously helps a ton that Rob and Al have other phenomenal defenders to help out as well, unlike the Jazz. But I don't think there is the worry that Williams will become unplayable in the playoffs, jump shot or no jump shot.

Mandatory reading for anybody doubting Gobert's ability to defend on the perimeter: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/rudy-gobert-is-having-one-of-the-best-defensive-seasons-in-modern-nba-history/

Gobert isn't just the best rim protector in the league, he is the best defender in the world. Period.

The Utah Jazz have failed him frankly. It's him and O'Neale (who can only do so much as an undersized wing) trying to get stops while the rest of the team chills, waiting to get the ball back so they can go down the other end and jack up a three.

As much as I like Horford and Timelord, if you swapped either one of them for Gobert, you can shave off a couple points of the Celtics defensive rating.
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Re: Robert Williams, aka TimeLord 

Post#214 » by BrianFitz » Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:35 pm

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They get taken right out of the playoffs too. I want Rob to evolve to where he's at least not afraid to shoot. Then again, I keep seeing the stat on his offensive impact so wth can I really quibble about? :o :lol:


Williams has much more defensive versatility than Gobert. I don't worry, like at all, when he gets switched onto a smaller player on the perimeter. Him and Horford are absolute masters at keeping smalls in front of them. Meanwhile Rudy is on an island when he is out defending the perimeter.

Don't get me wrong, Gobert is a monster defender. And it obviously helps a ton that Rob and Al have other phenomenal defenders to help out as well, unlike the Jazz. But I don't think there is the worry that Williams will become unplayable in the playoffs, jump shot or no jump shot.

Mandatory reading for anybody doubting Gobert's ability to defend on the perimeter: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/rudy-gobert-is-having-one-of-the-best-defensive-seasons-in-modern-nba-history/

Gobert isn't just the best rim protector in the league, he is the best defender in the world. Period.

The Utah Jazz have failed him frankly. It's him and O'Neale (who can only do so much as an undersized wing) trying to get stops while the rest of the team chills, waiting to get the ball back so they can go down the other end and jack up a three.

As much as I like Horford and Timelord, if you swapped either one of them for Gobert, you can shave off a couple points of the Celtics defensive rating.


I never said either were better defenders. Whatever numbers say in your article - if they say that Gobert is a better perimeter defender than Robert Williams, it's lying to you.
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Re: Robert Williams, aka TimeLord 

Post#215 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:37 pm



Smart gets his vote for DPOY; he's not surprised with the turnaround cos of the work they put in; he's embraced the nickname Timelord; etc.
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Re: Robert Williams, aka TimeLord 

Post#216 » by Hal14 » Fri Mar 25, 2022 1:59 pm

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Smart gets his vote for DPOY; he's not surprised with the turnaround cos of the work they put in; he's embraced the nickname Timelord; etc.

the vibes on this team, man. you gotta love it. They're all about the team, and not for themselves. all of them keep giving credit to their teammates and talking up each other. Rob is so quick to say smart is DPOY, not even saying anything about him getting it.

Tatum crashed the interview a few days ago when smart was getting interviewed to say how smart should win DPOY.

It seems like they all want smart to win it. they know he's been here the longest and they know how much work he's put in over the years, all the blood sweat and tears. it's pretty cool how these guys all pull for each other.
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Re: Robert Williams, aka TimeLord 

Post#217 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:55 pm

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Post#218 » by KamikazeK » Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:08 am

Timelord has really come through this season. If the C's manage to win it all this year then he's gonna be a big reason why.
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Post#219 » by sam_I_am » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:02 am

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He is getting 10 million next year. He deserves twice that already. With his passing ability, he has the chance to become truly special when he starts knocking down 3s regularly.
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Re: Robert Williams, aka TimeLord 

Post#220 » by jirrit » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:11 am

What’s his injury status now?

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