2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pic: Poll added

TheSuzerain · Post #161 » by **TheSuzerain** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 2:47 pm

I think we can find an equivalent talent to Mark Williams in FA or with a small trade. Like go get whichever backup center the Jazz move on from (Doke or Whiteside).

If we stay in the low 20s or even the high teens, I think Kennedy Chandler becomes an option.

Post #162 » by **Michael Jackson** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:18 pm

Almost Retired wrote:So far in the Tournament I have to say that Banchero is cementing himself into being the Number 1 Pick. His combination of size and skill level make him the deserved first pick. Jabari Smith of Auburn probably #2. I was not that impressed by Holmgren. He has skills. But he needs to add some mass and a lot more strength to play in the NBA. While his 5th foul was a crappy call, he went up straight vertical, the Arkansas players manhandled him. ANd the Gonzaga guards absolutely crapped the bed. Holmgren needs to stay in school one more year. He's too gangly to play the "3" and too weak to play the "4". He'll never be a "5". If I had to handicap the top of the draft I would say Banchero #1, Jabari Smith #2 and Jaden Ivey #3. After that it's a crap shoot. This is not a stellar draft. As for the Bulls....I hope and pray that Mark Williams of Duke lasts until our pick. He's the best player we could hope for in our draft slot. He's having a very good tournament as well. I like his size and his wingspan which I see listed as 7'-5" to 7"-7". And he shoots a good percentage from the free throw line, so he has the ability to at least develop an offensive game out to 15 feet, though defense and rebounding will always be his primary ticket in the NBA>

Chet is going to come out though because someone is going to take a gamble on him. I surely wouldn’t, but some team will. This should be an OK draft, but last year was the good draft, everyone knew that. This is still a stronger draft than the 20 draft though imho.

Banchero might go #1 but it wouldn’t surprise me if Jabari goes first either.

Rose2Boozer · Post #163 » by **Rose2Boozer** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:25 pm

I know he's 22 y/o, but when is it time to start giving Armando Bacot(UNC) some prospect love. I think he would be great next to Vuc.

Dresden · Post #164 » by **Dresden** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:05 pm

It's kind of cool to see Coach K make it to the Final Four in his last season. When he leaves, it will only be Jim Boeheim left from what I think was the golden age of college hoops- from early 70's to sometime in the early 90's- before we started having all the one and dones, and you actually got to see great players stay 4 years in college.

So many memorable coaches from that era- Jim Thompson, Mollie Massimo, Dean Smith, Roy Williams, Louie Carnesecca, Jim Valvano, Jim Calhoun, Bob Knight, Denny Crum, Ray Meyer and many others. It would be awesome to see Coach K go out with another title.

Am2626 · Post #165 » by **Am2626** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:40 pm

Dresden wrote:It's kind of cool to see Coach K make it to the Final Four in his last season. When he leaves, it will only be Jim Boeheim left from what I think was the golden age of college hoops- from early 70's to sometime in the early 90's- before we started having all the one and dones, and you actually got to see great players stay 4 years in college.

So many memorable coaches from that era- Jim Thompson, Mollie Massimo, Dean Smith, Roy Williams, Louie Carnesecca, Jim Valvano, Jim Calhoun, Bob Knight, Denny Crum, Ray Meyer and many others. It would be awesome to see Coach K go out with another title.

I’m hoping that some of that NIL money will keep some these kids in school a little bit longer. Better both for the College and NBA games in my opinion. I’m tired of seeing undeveloped prospects coming into the NBA too soon.

Dresden · Post #166 » by **Dresden** » Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:41 am

Am2626 wrote:
Dresden wrote:It's kind of cool to see Coach K make it to the Final Four in his last season. When he leaves, it will only be Jim Boeheim left from what I think was the golden age of college hoops- from early 70's to sometime in the early 90's- before we started having all the one and dones, and you actually got to see great players stay 4 years in college.

So many memorable coaches from that era- Jim Thompson, Mollie Massimo, Dean Smith, Roy Williams, Louie Carnesecca, Jim Valvano, Jim Calhoun, Bob Knight, Denny Crum, Ray Meyer and many others. It would be awesome to see Coach K go out with another title.

I’m hoping that some of that NIL money will keep some these kids in school a little bit longer. Better both for the College and NBA games in my opinion. I’m tired of seeing undeveloped prospects coming into the NBA too soon.

I agree. In an ideal world, players would spend 2-3 years in college minimum. I think it would be better for them, giving them a chance to have more of a college experience, get more of an education, and not get thrown into the professional arena with all it's pressures so soon. And it would be better for both college and nba games in the long run, too. I look at a kid like James Wiseman, who the Warriors just shut down for the rest of the year. He's played in 29 games in his first two seasons in the nba. He would have been much better off staying in college in every way except, of course, financially, where he now is almost set for life even if he never plays another game.

Repeat 3-peat · Post #167 » by **Repeat 3-peat** » Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:47 am

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Almost Retired · Post #168 » by **Almost Retired** » Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:39 pm

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We draft him. He splits time with Vooch next season, then becomes our Starting "5" the following year after we move on from Vooch. Williams has lots of good attributes, not the least of which is that long wingspan. I can see him being a big defensive upgrade and he'd also be able to put up 10 points and 10 rebounds consistently. He's probably never going to have the range of Vooch. But he can be an adequate scorer on put backs and elbow jumpers. And Williams has a NBA body. He's by far my Number 1 choice for the Bulls pick.

Wingy · Post #169 » by **Wingy** » Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:20 am

Almost Retired wrote:We draft him. He splits time with Vooch next season, then becomes our Starting "5" the following year after we move on from Vooch. Williams has lots of good attributes, not the least of which is that long wingspan. I can see him being a big defensive upgrade and he'd also be able to put up 10 points and 10 rebounds consistently. He's probably never going to have the range of Vooch. But he can be an adequate scorer on put backs and elbow jumpers. And Williams has a NBA body. He's by far my Number 1 choice for the Bulls pick.

Nah, I just don’t see it.

1. This man is tall
2. This man looks like he has a wingspan
3. This man appears to (sadly) run the court better then PWill

Just not a Bulls player.

In seriousness, being a big man, non-stiff with a Duke Final Four pedigree...I doubt he lasts to our pick.

PJSteven22 · Post #170 » by **PJSteven22** » Mon Mar 28, 2022 3:55 am

Wingy wrote:
Almost Retired wrote:We draft him. He splits time with Vooch next season, then becomes our Starting "5" the following year after we move on from Vooch. Williams has lots of good attributes, not the least of which is that long wingspan. I can see him being a big defensive upgrade and he'd also be able to put up 10 points and 10 rebounds consistently. He's probably never going to have the range of Vooch. But he can be an adequate scorer on put backs and elbow jumpers. And Williams has a NBA body. He's by far my Number 1 choice for the Bulls pick.

Nah, I just don’t see it.

1. This man is tall
2. This man looks like he has a wingspan
3. This man appears to (sadly) run the court better then PWill

Just not a Bulls player.

In seriousness, being a big man, non-stiff with a Duke Final Four pedigree...I doubt he lasts to our pick.

I can see him lasting to 20 with teams more enamored with guards and wings.

Wingy · Post #171 » by **Wingy** » Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:20 pm

PJSteven22 wrote:I can see him lasting to 20 with teams more enamored with guards and wings.

Yes, and no. In some other thread, I laid out how every good team in the league sports multiple, and sometimes 3-4 high quality big men. The fad is to think small ball, and talk about it as the headline, but it doesn't necessarily line up with the reality of what makes a good team.

StunnerKO · Post #172 » by **StunnerKO** » Mon Mar 28, 2022 3:57 pm

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ThisGuyFawkes · Post #173 » by **ThisGuyFawkes** » Mon Mar 28, 2022 4:51 pm

I think our pick ends up being Liddell is he's still available. Just seems like the kind of prospect that AKME love. Long wing that is pretty solid at everything. Almost like the wing version of Ayo.

Am2626 · Post #174 » by **Am2626** » Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:00 pm

Wingy wrote:
PJSteven22 wrote:I can see him lasting to 20 with teams more enamored with guards and wings.

Yes, and no. In some other thread, I laid out how every good team in the league sports multiple, and sometimes 3-4 high quality big men. The fad is to think small ball, and talk about it as the headline, but it doesn't necessarily line up with the reality of what makes a good team.

The way he has been playing in the tournament might improve his draft stock which would probably take him out of the Bulls range. If he’s there when the Bulls draft they have to take him though.

Wingy · Post #175 » by **Wingy** » Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:26 pm

Am2626 wrote:
Wingy wrote:
PJSteven22 wrote:I can see him lasting to 20 with teams more enamored with guards and wings.

Yes, and no. In some other thread, I laid out how every good team in the league sports multiple, and sometimes 3-4 high quality big men. The fad is to think small ball, and talk about it as the headline, but it doesn't necessarily line up with the reality of what makes a good team.

The way he has been playing in the tournament might improve his draft stock which would probably take him out of the Bulls range. If he’s there when the Bulls draft they have to take him though.

Obviously not gonna be a Jokic, but I hope AK’s got some big time Euro big in the pipeline who’s gonna surprise everyone, take over for Vuc sooner than later, and vastly outplay his draft position.

sco · Post #176 » by **sco** » Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:02 pm

I wonder if Dickinson from UofM comes out this season, and if so, he's be a nice 2nd rounder (although I think we don't have ours) for us. His game is similar enough to Vuc's to be a useful backup.

Rose2Boozer · Post #177 » by **Rose2Boozer** » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:05 am

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Almost Retired · Post #178 » by **Almost Retired** » Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:03 pm

Rose2Boozer wrote:

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Bacot has been having a great Tournament and is helping his draft status immensely. I CANNOT wait for the Duke v NC game on Saturday. I will be very closely watching the matchup between Bacot and Mark Williams of Duke. As things stand now I'd love to Draft either of them. Other than EJ Liddell there are not a lot of "4s" around our draft slot that interest me. So this might be the Draft to get some help at the "5". There are more potential prospects to fill that need. Williams, Walker Kessler and Bacot.

ThisGuyFawkes · Post #179 » by **ThisGuyFawkes** » Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:08 pm

Almost Retired wrote:
Rose2Boozer wrote:

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Bacot has been having a great Tournament and is helping his draft status immensely. I CANNOT wait for the Duke v NC game on Saturday. I will be very closely watching the matchup between Bacot and Mark Williams of Duke. As things stand now I'd love to Draft either of them. Other than EJ Liddell there are not a lot of "4s" around our draft slot that interest me. So this might be the Draft to get some help at the "5". There are more potential prospects to fill that need. Williams, Walker Kessler and Bacot.

I was just checking out some different mock drafts and almost all had Williams going in the 13-15 range. I also think he'd be a good pick, but I'm not sure it's going to happen at this point. His stock has risen immensely.

Almost Retired · Post #180 » by **Almost Retired** » Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:15 pm

mlitney01 wrote:
Almost Retired wrote:
Rose2Boozer wrote:

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Bacot has been having a great Tournament and is helping his draft status immensely. I CANNOT wait for the Duke v NC game on Saturday. I will be very closely watching the matchup between Bacot and Mark Williams of Duke. As things stand now I'd love to Draft either of them. Other than EJ Liddell there are not a lot of "4s" around our draft slot that interest me. So this might be the Draft to get some help at the "5". There are more potential prospects to fill that need. Williams, Walker Kessler and Bacot.

I was just checking out some different mock drafts and almost all had Williams going in the 13-15 range. I also think he'd be a good pick, but I'm not sure it's going to happen at this point. His stock has risen immensely.

Yeah. He has moved up during Duke's Tournament run. Williams was mocked 20-30 a month ago. With that wingspan I am afraid you're right. But Bacot could help us a lot. We need a better rebounder. Pat Williams is too passive. I'm not sure he's ever going to pan out. They need to give him another season, but I would not be extending him. He's got to put up numbers or try it elsewhere.

If Bulls keep the pick, who should they select?