Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 4

[AirP.]

The Duncan stat is why Spo is always making sure to run plays for Duncan at the start of the game.

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BTW, the Heat are 9-2 when Max Strus starts (SAC game not shown)

Hand picked stats that mean very little. Twitter posts like this make me almost start using social media(other then basketball boards).

He's kidding that when a player that almost exclusively shoots 3s scores 20+ the team seems to win almost all their games... amazing. Does it really surprise anyone that if a team gets 20+ pts on highly efficient shooting(Duncan has shot 100 2pt shots this year) would mean the team probably wins.

What does the Lowry stat of leads the teams in assists: 26-15(.634 win %) mean when Miami is 11-6(.647 win %) when he doesn't play?

Here's some other hand picked stats.

Tucker scoring in double digits: 16-6
Vincent scoring in double digits: 14-4
Dedmon scoring in double digits 11-4

Robinson taking 10+ 3s: 14-8
Herro getting 5+ assists: 14-5
Herro taking 20+ shots: 4-9
Herro taking 10+ 3s: 0-7
Butler taking 20+ shots: 4-3
Butler taking 0 3s: 10-0
Butler taking 3+ 3s: 6-12
Butler 4+ TOs: 6-3

Bam not playing: 17-8 <- This may mean something, downgrading from Bam to just a legit 7 footer and winning.
Butler not playing: 14-9
Lowry not playing: 11-6
Herro not playing: 9-6
Tucker not playing: 6-2

[Beenie]

@Celtics, @Bulls, @Raps, followed by a two game home stand against the Bobcats and Hawks, and then the season finale in Orlando.

Wouldn't surprise me if we don't even get to 50 wins this season. With this Heat team you can never know. We can either go 6-0 from here or 1-5. That's how volatile we are. Lol

Cant wait for the Bobcat game.

Mia testing their might against Adam Morrison and Crash Wallace should be a fun showdown.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[DayofMourning]

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Weren't we talking about Bam, Herro and Strus as our big 3;)

[IceColdCubano]

5-1 would be the worst we could play to finish at 1 as long as one of those wins is against Boston.
However in theory Chicago, Charlotte, Atlanta, Orlando should be wins, Toronto has given us problems, Boston is playing out this world, so we could potentially finish 5-2 which is probably 2nd seed-3rd seed. slot.
Going .500/3-3 or worse will probably leave us sitting worse case 4-5 seed.

[Tony15]

^@carnageta LOL schedule makers were very unkind to us with the road schedule.....granted we had our chance to mitigate that with the long home stretch & we ****ed it up with losses to MIN, NY, GS (no Steph/Klay/Draymond), etc....but this is gonna be the second time we get @TOR on the back end of a back to back. Swell....

We did it to ourselves though, shouldn’t even matter at this point

Indeed.

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[IceColdCubano]

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Weren't we talking about Bam, Herro and Strus as our big 3;)

Based on those combinations, you would need a lineup of Lowry, Herro, Struss, Caleb, Bam gets you the best performers all together.

Its essentially what we all see, Duncan has not been helping the starters, and Jimmy with Bam together are not all that great due to spacing.

[somerandomdude]

Spoiler:

The Duncan stat is why Spo is always making sure to run plays for Duncan at the start of the game.

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BTW, the Heat are 9-2 when Max Strus starts (SAC game not shown)

Hand picked stats that mean very little. Twitter posts like this make me almost start using social media(other then basketball boards).

He's kidding that when a player that almost exclusively shoots 3s scores 20+ the team seems to win almost all their games... amazing. Does it really surprise anyone that if a team gets 20+ pts on highly efficient shooting(Duncan has shot 100 2pt shots this year) would mean the team probably wins.

What does the Lowry stat of leads the teams in assists: 26-15(.634 win %) mean when Miami is 11-6(.647 win %) when he doesn't play?

Here's some other hand picked stats.

Tucker scoring in double digits: 16-6
Vincent scoring in double digits: 14-4
Dedmon scoring in double digits 11-4

Robinson taking 10+ 3s: 14-8
Herro getting 5+ assists: 14-5
Herro taking 20+ shots: 4-9
Herro taking 10+ 3s: 0-7
Butler taking 20+ shots: 4-3
Butler taking 0 3s: 10-0
Butler taking 3+ 3s: 6-12
Butler 4+ TOs: 6-3

Bam not playing: 17-8 <- This may mean something, downgrading from Bam to just a legit 7 footer and winning.
Butler not playing: 14-9
Lowry not playing: 11-6
Herro not playing: 9-6
Tucker not playing: 6-2

I agree with your sentiment, but I think the Herro ones are the most relevant, considering he leads our team in USG.

The "Bam not playing" certainly means something because we run drop coverage with Yurtz and that allows us to keep our only big near the paint. It comes at the cost of giving up jumpers, but that's not necessarily a bad thing when compared to getting hammered in the paint.

The "Butler taking 0 3s" and "Tucker scoring in double digits" are also interesting.

[QUIZ]

The Heat are in first place and remain well in control of it. We have 6 games left, if we finish 4-2 the Sixers or Bucks need to finish 7-1 to pass us. The Celtics meanwhile would need to finish 5-1.

[DayofMourning]

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Weren't we talking about Bam, Herro and Strus as our big 3;)

Based on those combinations, you would need a lineup of Lowry, Herro, Struss, Caleb, Bam gets you the best performers all together.

Its essentially what we all see, Duncan has not been helping the starters, and Jimmy with Bam together are not all that great due to spacing.

How do you think a Lowry, Herro, Strus, Caleb, Bam lineup would do starting games? I feel pretty good about that lineup considering our coach's preference for small ball.

Would a Ded, PJ, Butler, DRob, Gabe bench wreck other teams benches?

[SerialChiller]

The Heat are in first place and remain well in control of it. We have 6 games left, if we finish 4-2 the Sixers or Bucks need to finish 7-1 to pass us. The Celtics meanwhile would need to finish 5-1.

If the Celtics beat us tomorrow they'll jump back in front of us I believe. That'd give us the same records but they have the tiebreaker.

[twix2500]

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Can this hold water?

[SerialChiller]

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Can this hold water?

He used to be able to shoot them alright...It's like the Heat discouraged Wade and now him from shooting them or something.

[QUIZ]

The Heat are in first place and remain well in control of it. We have 6 games left, if we finish 4-2 the Sixers or Bucks need to finish 7-1 to pass us. The Celtics meanwhile would need to finish 5-1.

If the Celtics beat us tomorrow they'll jump back in front of us I believe. That'd give us the same records but they have the tiebreaker.

They already have the time breaker over us. Tomorrow’s game is important but it doesn’t change the overall math on the rest of the season. If we finish out the season 4-2, the C’s need to go 5-1, regardless of who those wins and losses are against.

[somerandomdude]

Weren't we talking about Bam, Herro and Strus as our big 3;)

Based on those combinations, you would need a lineup of Lowry, Herro, Struss, Caleb, Bam gets you the best performers all together.

Its essentially what we all see, Duncan has not been helping the starters, and Jimmy with Bam together are not all that great due to spacing.

How do you think a Lowry, Herro, Strus, Caleb, Bam lineup would do starting games? I feel pretty good about that lineup considering our coach's preference for small ball.

Would a Ded, PJ, Butler, DRob, Gabe bench wreck other teams benches?

Jimmy will never accept that

[IceColdCubano]

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Can this hold water?

That tells you why basketball players make terrible coaches most of the time. Comments like these, are telling, so you want the guy who shoots abysmal from the three to shoot more, just because he got lucky an hit 3 of them in a game against the kings. We are already struggling with how many possessions we get in a game that needs to be extremely efficient now we want to make it worse, get the fck out of here.

[IceColdCubano]

Based on those combinations, you would need a lineup of Lowry, Herro, Struss, Caleb, Bam gets you the best performers all together.

Its essentially what we all see, Duncan has not been helping the starters, and Jimmy with Bam together are not all that great due to spacing.

How do you think a Lowry, Herro, Strus, Caleb, Bam lineup would do starting games? I feel pretty good about that lineup considering our coach's preference for small ball.

Would a Ded, PJ, Butler, DRob, Gabe bench wreck other teams benches?

Jimmy will never accept that

You will never get this from the get go, as a starting lineup, Jimmy won't be feeling this at all.
However five or six minutes in, sit jimmy and run this lineup for 4 minutes then bring jimmy back to close the final 2 minutes with the bench mob, essentially the Lebron minutes/ five sports podcast talked about it today.

[Kobewade11]

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He used to be able to shoot them alright...It's like the Heat discouraged Wade and now him from shooting them or something.

I can guarantee nobody on the Heat discouraged our highest paid player from shooting 3s. His attempts this year are close enough to his career averages, he has just gotten progressively worse at making them.

[somerandomdude]

Herro's assists against the Kings

* I liked that we went to a Herro-Bam PnR early.
* I included the clip of PJ Tucker blowing an easy basket. Very nice play and it came from a Herro curl off of Bam, who made a criminally underrated pass.
* There's two plays we ran that involved our 3 best players and I was very encouraged by that, but we need to see a lot more of it and should've been building our offense around Jimmy, Herro, and Bam a long time ago.

[somerandomdude]

Interesting development:

* Duncan shot 5-8 from 3 against the Kings.
* None of those 3PTMs came from DHOs.
* He had 1 3PTA DHO with Bam and he missed it.
* He had 1ast and it came off a Bam DHO.

So it seems that keeping Bam and Duncan separated was a good thing. The only bad thing is that Strus ended up taking Duncan's DHOs and bricked most (if not all) of them.

I don't know how you guys feel about DHOs, but I don't think they've been good for our team. I like them in theory, though, and would rather see us running curls instead of taking 3PT shots with them.

Video Link to Duncan's 3PTAs