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What draft trades would you make?
Creating this point to address a few items on trading draft choices:
1. If we get the #1 pick, do you draft Chet or trade down so you don’t have to take a huge risk? And if so, how far are you willing to go down?
2. What is Grant worth to you in draft picks?
3. Any interest in trading down to get multiple first rounders from Portland (7&10), Houston (3&14), or OKC (4, 15 & 30)? (Pick #s taken from Today’s Tankathon)
My thoughts:
1. Trade the draft rights of Chet for sure, but stay in the top 4 picks.
2. I love the thought of getting both of Portland’s picks for Grant but I doubt we could get it. But any top 10 pick plus a future, mildly protected pick would work.
3. I like the idea of getting multiple picks if we were to trade down, but only OKC and HOU. Portland’s picks are too low to get a star.
Your thoughts?
1. If we get the #1 pick, do you draft Chet or trade down so you don’t have to take a huge risk? And if so, how far are you willing to go down?
2. What is Grant worth to you in draft picks?
3. Any interest in trading down to get multiple first rounders from Portland (7&10), Houston (3&14), or OKC (4, 15 & 30)? (Pick #s taken from Today’s Tankathon)
My thoughts:
1. Trade the draft rights of Chet for sure, but stay in the top 4 picks.
2. I love the thought of getting both of Portland’s picks for Grant but I doubt we could get it. But any top 10 pick plus a future, mildly protected pick would work.
3. I like the idea of getting multiple picks if we were to trade down, but only OKC and HOU. Portland’s picks are too low to get a star.
Your thoughts?
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If we get the number 1 pick i probably draft Jabari and try to get that other Portland pick with Grant. Could then be looking at SGs like Davis or Daniels or Cs like Williams or Duren.
IDK just thinking of some moves but im not so sure Chet is going number 1 anyways to trade back like that. I think Orlando really wants him and i think the Thunder would trade a ton of draft capital to add one of the bigs if they fall out of the top 4.
I only trade back if its a couple spots guaranteeing one of the bigs still with a bunch of extra draft capital.
Otherwise stay at #1 and i have no problem moving Grant for a extra 1st.
IDK just thinking of some moves but im not so sure Chet is going number 1 anyways to trade back like that. I think Orlando really wants him and i think the Thunder would trade a ton of draft capital to add one of the bigs if they fall out of the top 4.
I only trade back if its a couple spots guaranteeing one of the bigs still with a bunch of extra draft capital.
Otherwise stay at #1 and i have no problem moving Grant for a extra 1st.
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If we get #1 I'm taking Jabari no doubt
If I could trade Grant to Portland for one of their picks (he fits into their CJ TPE) I'd do it depending on who was available at that slot
No interest in trading a top 3 pick for multiple lower picks as I believe the top 3 or 4 are in a tier on their own and then there's maybe 10 dudes all on a similar level.
If we ended up with a rotation like below I wouldn't be too unhappy
Bags/Stewart
Jabari/KO
Bey/Livers
Portland Pick/Diallo
Cade/Hayes
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If I could trade Grant to Portland for one of their picks (he fits into their CJ TPE) I'd do it depending on who was available at that slot
No interest in trading a top 3 pick for multiple lower picks as I believe the top 3 or 4 are in a tier on their own and then there's maybe 10 dudes all on a similar level.
If we ended up with a rotation like below I wouldn't be too unhappy
Bags/Stewart
Jabari/KO
Bey/Livers
Portland Pick/Diallo
Cade/Hayes
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Pharaoh wrote:If we get #1 I'm taking Jabari no doubt
If I could trade Grant to Portland for one of their picks (he fits into their CJ TPE) I'd do it depending on who was available at that slot
No interest in trading a top 3 pick for multiple lower picks as I believe the top 3 or 4 are in a tier on their own and then there's maybe 10 dudes all on a similar level.
If we ended up with a rotation like below I wouldn't be too unhappy
Bags/Stewart
Jabari/KO
Bey/Livers
Portland Pick/Diallo
Cade/Hayes
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Looks like a good lineup to me. I think there is huge potential w a Portland trade although I doubt anything happens before the lottery. But swapping Grant for one of the best SGs in the draft would be awesome.
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If we get #1, I would definitely trade down.
I would also try to get one or both of Portland's picks that way or some other way.
And, the NY 1st. Hayes/Lee/Livers/Diallo/Stewart for Taj (exp), Kemba (exp) and that 1st (10th overall, I suppose)
I'm very high on Keegan Murray, Tari Eason, and Shaedon Sharpe. If we got all 3, it would make me much happier than whoever we would pick at 1st overall.
I would also try to get one or both of Portland's picks that way or some other way.
And, the NY 1st. Hayes/Lee/Livers/Diallo/Stewart for Taj (exp), Kemba (exp) and that 1st (10th overall, I suppose)
I'm very high on Keegan Murray, Tari Eason, and Shaedon Sharpe. If we got all 3, it would make me much happier than whoever we would pick at 1st overall.
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This question is tough until we know the draft order. ThThen you can better come up with certain trades that involve multiple picks once you know pick positions and who is likely to be there
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at 1 I'm taking Chet
reasoning: 2 way PF, elite finisher, good shooter, passer, shot blocker, good steal rate for a center
If Portland is offering a top 5 pick I'll take it for Grant straight up:
reasoning: to me, there's 5 upper echelon talents in this draft. The big 3 plus Ivey and Shaedon. If we can get 2 of them, I'm good.
If Portland is offering anything 6 or above, I'm asking for both of their lottery picks:
Reasoning:
Grant is an Olympic Gold medal winner, a mature win-now tool useful to championship contenders. He's what many teams are missing: a big 2-way wing that shoots, scores, and defends. I'm not giving him up for "just one" 3rd or 4th tier lottery pick that for all we know could end up mediocre. Detroit as a city, and the Pistons as an organization deserve way better than that. Hopefully Troy hasn't changed his mind on that.
At the end of the day, the grass is green right here. Period. Cade Saddiq Grant on Offense. Beef Stew & Killian for defense. Plus our top 5 pick. I'd be cool resigning Grant and running that back if we have to. Hopefully Troy hasn't changed his mind on that!
reasoning: 2 way PF, elite finisher, good shooter, passer, shot blocker, good steal rate for a center
If Portland is offering a top 5 pick I'll take it for Grant straight up:
reasoning: to me, there's 5 upper echelon talents in this draft. The big 3 plus Ivey and Shaedon. If we can get 2 of them, I'm good.
If Portland is offering anything 6 or above, I'm asking for both of their lottery picks:
Reasoning:
Grant is an Olympic Gold medal winner, a mature win-now tool useful to championship contenders. He's what many teams are missing: a big 2-way wing that shoots, scores, and defends. I'm not giving him up for "just one" 3rd or 4th tier lottery pick that for all we know could end up mediocre. Detroit as a city, and the Pistons as an organization deserve way better than that. Hopefully Troy hasn't changed his mind on that.
At the end of the day, the grass is green right here. Period. Cade Saddiq Grant on Offense. Beef Stew & Killian for defense. Plus our top 5 pick. I'd be cool resigning Grant and running that back if we have to. Hopefully Troy hasn't changed his mind on that!
You need 2-way wings, 2-way shooting bigs, and you can't allow low iq players on the court. Assist/turnover ratio is crucial. Shooting point guards are icing on the cake IF they are plus defenders.
Weaver & Casey, govern yourselves accordingly!
Weaver & Casey, govern yourselves accordingly!
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bstein14 wrote:This question is tough until we know the draft order. Then you can better come up with certain trades that involve multiple picks once you know pick positions and who is likely to be there
Agree, but for discussion sakes, the best we can do is just make an assumption that it will play out as if the season ended today (which obviously is getting close). It would also be a lot more exciting to trade Grant BEFORE the lottery. I know we were trying to snag 2 first rounders for him, but I'd take Portland's pre-lottery first rounder for Grant straight up now if they would do it. It would sure make the lottery more exciting for us

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I don't feel strongly enough about any guy at the top of the draft that I would stake my reputation on drafting them. I'd rather just criticize everybody else's picks.
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Under no circunstance a team should ever trade the #1 pick. You draft the BPA and figure out the rest later.
If we draft Smith or Banchero, I'd trade Grant for a Guard, not a pick. Someone like Brogdon, but I believe Grant have more value than him, so I'd want more value. If we don't draft Banchero or Smith I'd keep Grant and extend him.
If we don't have a good offer for Grant, even if we draft Banchero or Smith I'd keep Grant and play him at the 3-4 and even some small ball 5. There are enough minutes for Grant Bey and a rookie, even tho that's not ideal.
If we draft Smith or Banchero, I'd trade Grant for a Guard, not a pick. Someone like Brogdon, but I believe Grant have more value than him, so I'd want more value. If we don't draft Banchero or Smith I'd keep Grant and extend him.
If we don't have a good offer for Grant, even if we draft Banchero or Smith I'd keep Grant and play him at the 3-4 and even some small ball 5. There are enough minutes for Grant Bey and a rookie, even tho that's not ideal.
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I've seen this same argument about BPA multiple times across the board, but the problem is there is not always a clear cut BPA. Sometimes it's more about tiers.vege wrote:Under no circunstance a team should ever trade the #1 pick. You draft the BPA and figure out the rest later.
If we draft Smith or Banchero, I'd trade Grant for a Guard, not a pick. Someone like Brogdon, but I believe Grant have more value than him, so I'd want more value. If we don't draft Banchero or Smith I'd keep Grant and extend him.
If we don't have a good offer for Grant, even if we draft Banchero or Smith I'd keep Grant and play him at the 3-4 and even some small ball 5. There are enough minutes for Grant Bey and a rookie, even tho that's not ideal.
If I've got about 4 players all valued roughly the same, and I can trade down from the #1 spot while staying in the top 4 and get additional value then that makes a lot of sense. Especially IF the argument really is about BPA as opposed to fit. You are drafting talent regardless.
Shoot, I know this is going back a ways but I remember ORL trading away the #1 pick for #3 and 3x future 1st round picks. Would you pass on that type of offer in this draft? It might sound unlikely, but I'm not going to sit here an say never ever. Strange things happen.
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Cowology wrote:If I've got about 4 players all valued roughly the same, and I can trade down from the #1 spot while staying in the top 4 and get additional value then that makes a lot of sense. Especially IF the argument really is about BPA as opposed to fit. You are drafting talent regardless.
Totally agree. And if one of the players in that top tier has not just a high ceiling but a high bust potential (Chet), if someone wants to take him #1 and we can stay in that top tier and pick up another asset, why not make that trade?
Cowology wrote:Shoot, I know this is going back a ways but I remember ORL trading away the #1 pick for #3 and 3x future 1st round picks. Would you pass on that type of offer in this draft? It might sound unlikely, but I'm not going to sit here and say never ever. Strange things happen.
That would be awesome if we were to get a Godfather offer like that, but I assume something much less. OKC has enough draft picks to do it without thinking twice - they actually have more picks than roster spots, so they will be moving some for sure. #4, #15 and #30 would be tempting. 4 gets us our top tier PF, #15 gets us a SG, and #30 probably gets us a G-Leaguer. Would much prefer a slightly protected lottery pick next year instead of #30.
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One other trade item that I should have included in the initial post - we owe Houston a pick that is too complicated to explain in a single sentence
They might be an interesting trade partner if we can tweek the protection or get it back.
Ok, NBADraft.net has it in a single sentence: Rockets receive Pistons first round pick (top 16 protected, or top 16 in 2022, top 18 in 2023 and 2024, top 13 in 2025, top 11 in 2026 and top 9 in 2027, or Pistons will send 2027 second round pick to Houston. (New York )

Ok, NBADraft.net has it in a single sentence: Rockets receive Pistons first round pick (top 16 protected, or top 16 in 2022, top 18 in 2023 and 2024, top 13 in 2025, top 11 in 2026 and top 9 in 2027, or Pistons will send 2027 second round pick to Houston. (New York )
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theBigLip wrote:One other trade item that I should have included in the initial post - we owe Houston a pick that is too complicated to explain in a single sentenceThey might be an interesting trade partner if we can tweek the protection or get it back.
Ok, NBADraft.net has it in a single sentence: Rockets receive Pistons first round pick (top 16 protected, or top 16 in 2022, top 18 in 2023 and 2024, top 13 in 2025, top 11 in 2026 and top 9 in 2027, or Pistons will send 2027 second round pick to Houston. (New York )
That pick was traded from Houston to OKC when they acquired Alperen Şengün
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I'd like to trade Grant to move up mid first or higher and grab a 5. This draft is big man full which means some good ones are going to fall through the cracks.
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It depends on a bunch of stuff, but I will make several assumptions;
1.Pistons land #1
2.OKC lands 2 or 3
Weaver wants Smith, and knows OKC wants Chet. Trade them the pick, so you get Smith and another pick.
Trade Grant to Portland for their highest pick, and filler, and if its possible, both picks by throwing in another player with Grant.
The reason I'm down with moving Grant if the Pistons land top three, is I'm confident in Bagley. You pair him with any of the big guys, and I'm stoked.
Bagley
Smith
Bey
MONK(YES I WANT MONK)
Cade
That would work for me. You've got picks galore, and would be bursting with young talent.
1.Pistons land #1
2.OKC lands 2 or 3
Weaver wants Smith, and knows OKC wants Chet. Trade them the pick, so you get Smith and another pick.
Trade Grant to Portland for their highest pick, and filler, and if its possible, both picks by throwing in another player with Grant.
The reason I'm down with moving Grant if the Pistons land top three, is I'm confident in Bagley. You pair him with any of the big guys, and I'm stoked.
Bagley
Smith
Bey
MONK(YES I WANT MONK)
Cade
That would work for me. You've got picks galore, and would be bursting with young talent.
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Well, you know how I'd answer this...what trades are being offered? And I don't mean that in the sense of avoiding what I think the real question is, which is "What trades would you WANT to make?" I answered with a question because ultimately I think the Pistons are in the driver's seat and if it's me, I let the other guy make the first move.

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If we get #1, I think we should keep it and draft whoever Weaver thinks is the best player and fit (I'm not a scout, so I don't have a stronger opinion between the top three).
I'm in favor of keeping Grant. I think continuity is underrated and I think he, Cade, and Bey fit together better than people think and that we're at our best when we have Grant as a secondary creator and shot maker.
I'm in favor of keeping Grant. I think continuity is underrated and I think he, Cade, and Bey fit together better than people think and that we're at our best when we have Grant as a secondary creator and shot maker.
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vege wrote:theBigLip wrote:One other trade item that I should have included in the initial post - we owe Houston a pick that is too complicated to explain in a single sentenceThey might be an interesting trade partner if we can tweek the protection or get it back.
Ok, NBADraft.net has it in a single sentence: Rockets receive Pistons first round pick (top 16 protected, or top 16 in 2022, top 18 in 2023 and 2024, top 13 in 2025, top 11 in 2026 and top 9 in 2027, or Pistons will send 2027 second round pick to Houston. (New York )
That pick was traded from Houston to OKC when they acquired Alperen Şengün
Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't realize that happened. Although I guess that still applies if we make a deal with OKC - maybe we can pull that pick back or change protections.
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vege wrote:Under no circunstance a team should ever trade the #1 pick. You draft the BPA and figure out the rest later.
I feel like I know for sure that the #1 pick this year will be okay. No Kwame Brown or Anthony Bennett nonsense.
Buuuuuuuut
Whoever goes 1st this year is no Lebron, Zion, Brow, Hakeem, Shaq or David Robinson. So I say trade 'em for the right deal.