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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2.0 

Post#461 » by Los_29 » Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:45 pm

Mark_83 wrote:I look at Memphis right now and wonder how good this team would be with Bane instead of Flynn. Shooting, defense, and secondary playmaking. I say this as someone who had Flynn at the top of my board for our pick (I had Bane around 3rd/4th).


We’d be much better for sure from an offensive standpoint.

Bane isn’t a playmaker though and not sure how good of a defender he is. I haven’t watched him enough. The advanced stats have him as a slightly above defender.
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Post#462 » by Mark_83 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:02 am

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Mark_83 wrote:I look at Memphis right now and wonder how good this team would be with Bane instead of Flynn. Shooting, defense, and secondary playmaking. I say this as someone who had Flynn at the top of my board for our pick (I had Bane around 3rd/4th).


We’d be much better for sure from an offensive standpoint.

Bane isn’t a playmaker though and not sure how good of a defender he is. I haven’t watched him enough. The advanced stats have him as a slightly above defender.


Maybe playmaking is too far, he's not James Harden in terms of creating, but he's a heady passer, unselfish, and finds the open man. He's averaging almost 3 assists per game, and averaged almost 4 a game with TCU his last year, so he's not just a shooter. He'll keep the ball moving unlike Trent most of the time.
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Post#463 » by Los_29 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:55 am

Mark_83 wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Mark_83 wrote:I look at Memphis right now and wonder how good this team would be with Bane instead of Flynn. Shooting, defense, and secondary playmaking. I say this as someone who had Flynn at the top of my board for our pick (I had Bane around 3rd/4th).


We’d be much better for sure from an offensive standpoint.

Bane isn’t a playmaker though and not sure how good of a defender he is. I haven’t watched him enough. The advanced stats have him as a slightly above defender.


Maybe playmaking is too far, he's not James Harden in terms of creating, but he's a heady passer, unselfish, and finds the open man. He's averaging almost 3 assists per game, and averaged almost 4 a game with TCU his last year, so he's not just a shooter. He'll keep the ball moving unlike Trent most of the time.


I'd say offensively he is primarily just a shooter but the other parts of his game are developing. A lack of quickness and ballhandling may prevent him from getting to that next level. Regardless, he is already an elite shooter.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2.0 

Post#464 » by dagger » Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:34 am

While everyone is focussed on who will make the NBA playoffs, there is an intriguing race at the bottom of the standings. Three teams - Houston, Detroit and Orlando - tied for worst record with 20-55 records. We have a dog in this hunt, albeit a chihuahua (Detroit's second round pick). And we play Houston and Orlando in our final eight games.
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Post#465 » by Spida888 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:38 am

Bane has looked really good this year and is a contributor to Memphis' success thus far. A candidate for most improved player.

Can't hit them all though, and Flynn was some PG insurance in case Lowry/Fred was gone.

Maybe Bane's negative wingspan hurt his stock. I didn't watch him in college so not sure if he was projected to be such a good shooter.

One way to feel better about it is if we drafted Bane, would he have helped us win a few more games last year dropping us from a position to pick Scottie? Maybe not, but it's more comforting when I think about it that way lol.
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Post#466 » by Ell Curry » Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:52 am

Spida888 wrote:Bane has looked really good this year and is a contributor to Memphis' success thus far. A candidate for most improved player.

Can't hit them all though, and Flynn was some PG insurance in case Lowry/Fred was gone.

Maybe Bane's negative wingspan hurt his stock. I didn't watch him in college so not sure if he was projected to be such a good shooter.

One way to feel better about it is if we drafted Bane, would he have helped us win a few more games last year dropping us from a position to pick Scottie? Maybe not, but it's more comforting when I think about it that way lol.


Yeah, we couldn't rebound (27th) and Nurse would have loved him, he might have helped us win a few more games and we draft Giddey or Kuminga or Wagner.

We're obviously looking for a shooting wing and have tried with Svi and Brooks for cheap, so it's something Masai and Nurse want. No idea if that player will be there at our high 2nd rounder or if we'll just go with another athletic, tough, smart, long player we can develop a la Banton, Bruno, Siakam, OG, Precious and probably another recent pick I just can't think of right now. I think reaching for a shooter is more likely than reaching for a center.
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Post#467 » by Rodrickle » Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:36 pm

I think Julian Champagnie would solve this problem

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Post#468 » by Madhouse » Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:46 pm

dagger wrote:While everyone is focussed on who will make the NBA playoffs, there is an intriguing race at the bottom of the standings. Three teams - Houston, Detroit and Orlando - tied for worst record with 20-55 records. We have a dog in this hunt, albeit a chihuahua (Detroit's second round pick). And we play Houston and Orlando in our final eight games.


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Post#469 » by rarefind » Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:56 am

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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2.0 

Post#470 » by rarefind » Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:57 am

Should have kept Eubanks
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Post#471 » by Morris_Shatford » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:21 pm

rarefind wrote:Should have kept Eubanks


While the 14/9 is impressive, I am comfortable with having waived him.
The Blazers are 2 - 14 with him as a starter with those 14 losses coming by an average of 25 points.
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Post#472 » by rarefind » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:35 pm

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rarefind wrote:Should have kept Eubanks


While the 14/9 is impressive, I am comfortable with having waived him.
The Blazers are 2 - 14 with him as a starter with those 14 losses coming by an average of 25 points.


Well yeah, for sure... The Blazers are a tire fire. But 27/14/3 last night for a guy who just turned 25. Through all the flirting we did with D.J. Wilson, I feel like Eubanks could have at least been given a shot. We could certainly use him in spurts or in matchup dependent scenarios. Not a biggie... Just interesting.
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Post#473 » by Morris_Shatford » Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:20 pm

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rarefind wrote:Should have kept Eubanks


While the 14/9 is impressive, I am comfortable with having waived him.
The Blazers are 2 - 14 with him as a starter with those 14 losses coming by an average of 25 points.


rarefind wrote:Well yeah, for sure... The Blazers are a tire fire. But 27/14/3 last night for a guy who just turned 25.


Its more than just that, he tossed up 27/14/3/3/2 . Its damn impressive!
As an individual performance its pretty good as its damn hard to put up a double double in the NBA even against OKC.
But they lost by 3 and he was a - 7 despite tossing up 27.

Brandon Williams last night (who I honestly thought was a 2K create a player till five minutes ago) tossed up 25 points and was a 0.

The thing with the NBA is no one gets shut out,
Someone is going to get points and someone is going to pull down boards no matter how bad the team, Eubanks has been that someone for the Blazers.

I honestly hope he can convert this run into a contract next season with someone.

rarefind wrote:Through all the flirting we did with D.J. Wilson, I feel like Eubanks could have at least been given a shot. We could certainly use him in spurts or in matchup dependent scenarios. Not a biggie... Just interesting.


I completely get it, its the "what if" factor.
We have wanted a bigger guy for the majority of the season and when Birch was hurt and Precious was missing dunks we all REALLY wanted a bigger guy. I just don't see how he earns minutes given how limited he is positionally in Nurses system.

Given our current guard situation even if we gave him a cup of coffee he likely gets the axe the moment FVV and Flynn get hurt any way.

My completely random and purely speculative theory is he was waived for a more "human factor" consideration and that when he was traded to Toronto his agent called and we Bobby likely honestly broke down the fact that he isn't going to be getting much of an opportunity when we are in the process of developing other big guys.

If he wanted another NBA contract his path to minutes at that moment in Toronto didn't look great and the kid and his agent felt they were better off asking to get waived so that he could try and get a shot to get a roster spot this summer.
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Post#474 » by C-R-E-A-M- » Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:32 am

get ready for the D Mitchell trade request
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Post#475 » by Madhouse » Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:57 am

C-R-E-A-M- wrote:get ready for the D Mitchell trade request


How many picks do we need to attach on top of Trent and OG?
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Post#476 » by Madvillainy2004 » Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:03 pm

I'd love for us to find a way to get Donny. Trent + Birch + Precious + how many picks they want for him. Probably have to throw in OG too but may as well see if Trent/Precious is enough lolll
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Post#477 » by Madhouse » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:12 pm

Madvillainy2004 wrote:I'd love for us to find a way to get Donny. Trent + Birch + Precious + how many picks they want for him. Probably have to throw in OG too but may as well see if Trent/Precious is enough lolll

Keep Precious. We'd get an upgrade at guard in all Allstar but your front court defensively would be horrible.
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Post#478 » by Spida888 » Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:27 pm

Madhouse wrote:
C-R-E-A-M- wrote:get ready for the D Mitchell trade request


How many picks do we need to attach on top of Trent and OG?


Mitchell would be great. At least 2 picks I'm thinking, but a Fred + Mitchell backcourt is too small.

Fred should be substituted for one of Trent or OG.
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Post#479 » by Mattatron » Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:15 pm

Nah don't want any part of D. Mitchell. I just want Masai to trade Trent Jr, he could attach nice assets, he's not worth more $$ after 2023. Move Barnes to the 1 and give him the keys, Fred plays his natural "Klay" Role as the shooting guard, og the wing Defender, Siakam @four and Precious plays the role of the big man. That gives Thad Young more playing time as a plug, Boucher (both extending, going to be a vet soon, he looks more intelligent this year), and the talent + pick we get for Trent Jr, + Armoni and "the others".

Anunoby is too valuable for us, and he really likes it here I guess, I mean his contract is one of the best in the league, cheap/longterm.

Barnes/Fred/Dalano
VanVleet/(Trent Compensation)/Brooks
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Siakam/Young/Boucher
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Post#480 » by Madhouse » Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:32 pm

Klaw22 wrote:Nah don't want any part of D. Mitchell. I just want Masai to trade Trent Jr, he could attach nice assets, he's not worth more $$ after 2023. Move Barnes to the 1 and give him the keys, Fred plays his natural "Klay" Role as the shooting guard, og the wing Defender, Siakam @four and Precious plays the role of the big man. That gives Thad Young more playing time as a plug, Boucher (both extending, going to be a vet soon, he looks more intelligent this year), and the talent + pick we get for Trent Jr, + Armoni and "the others".

Anunoby is too valuable for us, and he really likes it here I guess, I mean his contract is one of the best in the league, cheap/longterm.

Barnes/Fred/Dalano
VanVleet/(Trent Compensation)/Brooks
Anunoby/Barnes/Young
Siakam/Young/Boucher
Achiuwa/Boucher/Birch


I could see that but you would have to convince me we would get real value back, who is that prospect and how much can we move up in the draft?

If that is a Memphis Adams/JV situation from last year, I wouldn't hate it but we would need to receive a significant pick and also a decent prospect.

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