Worst off-season moves?

[evevale]

russ hands down has been an absolute trainwreck - i can't even watch his bloopers anymore without wanting to cry

but i think the premature extension of julius randle has to be up there too. he is disgracing the knicks franchise which says a **** lot

[Dan Z]

Detroit paid to get out of Plumlee, so they could sign Olynyk, and will likely pay to get out of his deal next offseason.

Didn't Olynyk get injured this year?

It seems like he'd be decent depth to have, but I haven't watch him much this season. At 12 million next year that doesn't seem too bad. I wouldn't pay or give any assets to get out of that deal.

[vege]

Detroit paid to get out of Plumlee, so they could sign Olynyk, and will likely pay to get out of his deal next offseason.

Didn't Olynyk get injured this year?

It seems like he'd be decent depth to have, but I haven't watch him much this season. At 12 million next year that doesn't seem too bad. I wouldn't pay or give any assets to get out of that deal.

We have Grant starting at the 4, Stewart and Bagley should be our bench 5 and 4 next season, Mitchell Robinson should be our starter 5 next season. Where do you get minutes for Olynyk?

[Crives]

MPJ contract worst by far. Makes WB trade look like a steal

[Dan Z]

Detroit paid to get out of Plumlee, so they could sign Olynyk, and will likely pay to get out of his deal next offseason.

Didn't Olynyk get injured this year?

It seems like he'd be decent depth to have, but I haven't watch him much this season. At 12 million next year that doesn't seem too bad. I wouldn't pay or give any assets to get out of that deal.

We have Grant starting at the 4, Stewart and Bagley should be our bench 5 and 4 next season, Mitchell Robinson should be our starter 5 next season. Where do you get minutes for Olynyk?

Even if he's depth on the bench I don't think it's worth it to pay or give up assets to get rid of him.

The season is long....players get injured or struggle. It doesn't hurt to have him for depth on a contract that's really not that awful.

[SUPERVILLAIN]

Kendrick Nunn just signed a nice 2-year deal. Then he sat out the whole season just because of a bruised knee. 0 games played. What a waste of money.

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[shanedude]

Leave Kendrick alone

[Tor_Raps]

Dudes making 5 million and is out because of an injury that none of us know the details about. Not sure how this can be considered the worst signing for that reason.

[vege]

Didn't Olynyk get injured this year?

It seems like he'd be decent depth to have, but I haven't watch him much this season. At 12 million next year that doesn't seem too bad. I wouldn't pay or give any assets to get out of that deal.

We have Grant starting at the 4, Stewart and Bagley should be our bench 5 and 4 next season, Mitchell Robinson should be our starter 5 next season. Where do you get minutes for Olynyk?

Even if he's depth on the bench I don't think it's worth it to pay or give up assets to get rid of him.

The season is long....players get injured or struggle. It doesn't hurt to have him for depth on a contract that's really not that awful.

Seems like a great idea to pay 12 mil for a 3rd stringer

[Dan Z]

We have Grant starting at the 4, Stewart and Bagley should be our bench 5 and 4 next season, Mitchell Robinson should be our starter 5 next season. Where do you get minutes for Olynyk?

Even if he's depth on the bench I don't think it's worth it to pay or give up assets to get rid of him.

The season is long....players get injured or struggle. It doesn't hurt to have him for depth on a contract that's really not that awful.

Seems like a great idea to pay 12 mil for a 3rd stringer

For one year. After that his contract is only guaranteed for 3 million.

You want to give up some sort of asset to get rid of him? Or are you thinking of a buy-out? Would he even take one?

The Pistons have cap space and it doesn't seem like a big deal to have him for one more year.

[Invictus88]

Even if he's depth on the bench I don't think it's worth it to pay or give up assets to get rid of him.

The season is long....players get injured or struggle. It doesn't hurt to have him for depth on a contract that's really not that awful.

Seems like a great idea to pay 12 mil for a 3rd stringer

For one year. After that his contract is only guaranteed for 3 million.

You want to give up some sort of asset to get rid of him? Or are you thinking of a buy-out? Would he even take one?

The Pistons have cap space and it doesn't seem like a big deal to have him for one more year.

This.

With how much cap space that we currently have available why on earth would we give up an asset to get more? We're going to have an estimated 26-50 million dollars available over the summer. And that's not even counting trading away Grant which is likely to happen.

Who are you planning on signing with all of that money?

[vege]

Even if he's depth on the bench I don't think it's worth it to pay or give up assets to get rid of him.

The season is long....players get injured or struggle. It doesn't hurt to have him for depth on a contract that's really not that awful.

Seems like a great idea to pay 12 mil for a 3rd stringer

For one year. After that his contract is only guaranteed for 3 million.

You want to give up some sort of asset to get rid of him? Or are you thinking of a buy-out? Would he even take one?

The Pistons have cap space and it doesn't seem like a big deal to have him for one more year.

I would either use 2nds to dump him (the ones we got from Brooklyn for taking DJ dead money next season) or trade him for a guard on a similar situation, I had a thread discussing it a few weeks ago and it was a really good thread with some great ideas.

The point here is, we spent assets to get out of Plumlee, so we could sign KO, and next season, we shouldn't want KO in our roster.

[phanman]

Everything the Lakers and Knicks did were awful that is a given but i'd go with Duncan Robinson. Shooting is a premium, but damn giving that deal to Duncan ensure that Herro isn't going to settle for anything less than a max deal.

Giving Duncan that deal looks fugly man. Sure you can say that is the going rate for a knock-down shooter, but he regressed last season and was even worse in the playoffs vs his RS totals. Lowry, Bam and Jimmy on a max, Duncan's loaded deal and Herros upcoming contract is essentially caps the teams ability to add and improve. That contract looks even worse when realize that Duncan's been a net negative all season and you notice that Max Strus more efficient on similar production with a minimum contract.

[Dan Z]

Seems like a great idea to pay 12 mil for a 3rd stringer

For one year. After that his contract is only guaranteed for 3 million.

You want to give up some sort of asset to get rid of him? Or are you thinking of a buy-out? Would he even take one?

The Pistons have cap space and it doesn't seem like a big deal to have him for one more year.

I would either use 2nds to dump him (the ones we got from Brooklyn for taking DJ dead money next season) or trade him for a guard on a similar situation, I had a thread discussing it a few weeks ago and it was a really good thread with some great ideas.

The point here is, we spent assets to get out of Plumlee, so we could sign KO, and next season, we shouldn't want KO in our roster.

Did they really get rid of Plumlee to target KO? It seems like there's more to it (maybe the player they original wanted said no?), but I don't follow the Pistons close enough.

I don't know why you'd want to give up any assets to get rid of KO. He won't stop the Pistons from signing anyone who they want to get this off-season.

But if a trade for a better vet, on a similar contract, or if he's used in some deal where the Pistons get an asset...sure I can understand that.

[vege]

For one year. After that his contract is only guaranteed for 3 million.

You want to give up some sort of asset to get rid of him? Or are you thinking of a buy-out? Would he even take one?

The Pistons have cap space and it doesn't seem like a big deal to have him for one more year.

I would either use 2nds to dump him (the ones we got from Brooklyn for taking DJ dead money next season) or trade him for a guard on a similar situation, I had a thread discussing it a few weeks ago and it was a really good thread with some great ideas.

The point here is, we spent assets to get out of Plumlee, so we could sign KO, and next season, we shouldn't want KO in our roster.

Did they really get rid of Plumlee to target KO? It seems like there's more to it (maybe the player they original wanted said no?), but I don't follow the Pistons close enough.

Yes, Plumlee was promised the starting spot in Detroit, and Weaver felt Stewart was good enough to start (which he isn't, he should be a bench player and he would be a good one).

So we paid to send Plumlee to a good situation, the only team in the league where he would start, and we got Olynyk, who was our first option, and who is fine coming off the bench for Stewart.

Olynyk has been fine for us, but like I said in my previous posts, he won't have any place in our roster next season.

As for the money, if we get Olynyk's money in cap space next season, we could sign both players we're reportedly interested in during FA, Jalen Brunson and Mitchell Robinson.

[Lala870]

If the Nuggets didnt draft Jokic I would nominate them for worst offseason team every year. They are also lucky highland is showing some stuff.

Sans jokic/possibly hyland... just a dumpster fire organization. Extend the wrong players, sign overrated injury-prone bums, etc etc. I am one of the few posters who criticized the Aaron Gordon trade even when Murray was healthy. I felt like they were better off letting RJ develop and then moving on from MPJ.

Anyones who has also followed the nuggets knows Jamal Murray is questionable outside the bubble run. Inconsistent, always injured. etc. Im sure there's some savvy GMs out there who would have cut losses with Jamal prior to his extension or traded him when his stock was high

The Nuggets are now in no mans-land as I said they would be. MPJ/Murray both not close to returning and every other player outside of Jokic is questionable at best. Outside of Jokic, FO is Sacramento level bad

[Lala870]

MPJ contract worst by far. Makes WB trade look like a steal

Dumbest decision I think I've ever seen a FO make. I also hated the Aaron Gordon trade.

[CoachD]

The Hawks were given an A+ grade for their off-season....

I think we can all agree those evaluations were off

[kobe tier]

Giving Randle the Max was a Knicks move.