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Post#1781 » by chonestown » Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:23 pm

Back injury just wrecked Carlton. Never really showed the promise to justify his recruiting.
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Post#1782 » by Diggr14 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:17 am

Is going after Braeden Moore still a viable alternative? I havent heard much about him anywhere ever since he decommitted from Rutgers.
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Post#1783 » by Diggr14 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:54 am

MikeIsGood wrote:I was so excited for Carlson. I don't know if it was the injuries, that he just didn't pan out, both, or whatever. Disappointing, but wish him the best.

NIL isn't going anywhere, but the transfer portal has drastically and dramatically impacted basketball - moreso than football IMO. I don't like it either.



He's listed at 6'9... he's all of 6'6 maybe 6'7. He's soft, not charmin soft... but soft and has no permiter game to make himself useful. I was hoping he'd make a jump next season, but it was pretty apparent midseason he had one foot out the door. Sad, entitled, soft.... overrated.
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Post#1784 » by buckboy » Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:31 pm

chonestown wrote:Back injury just wrecked Carlton. Never really showed the promise to justify his recruiting.

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Post#1785 » by chonestown » Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:34 pm

Diggr14 wrote:
MikeIsGood wrote:I was so excited for Carlson. I don't know if it was the injuries, that he just didn't pan out, both, or whatever. Disappointing, but wish him the best.

NIL isn't going anywhere, but the transfer portal has drastically and dramatically impacted basketball - moreso than football IMO. I don't like it either.



He's listed at 6'9... he's all of 6'6 maybe 6'7. He's soft, not charmin soft... but soft and has no permiter game to make himself useful. I was hoping he'd make a jump next season, but it was pretty apparent midseason he had one foot out the door. Sad, entitled, soft.... overrated.


Explain how he was entitled.
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Post#1786 » by buckboy » Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:41 pm

chonestown wrote:
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MikeIsGood wrote:I was so excited for Carlson. I don't know if it was the injuries, that he just didn't pan out, both, or whatever. Disappointing, but wish him the best.

NIL isn't going anywhere, but the transfer portal has drastically and dramatically impacted basketball - moreso than football IMO. I don't like it either.



He's listed at 6'9... he's all of 6'6 maybe 6'7. He's soft, not charmin soft... but soft and has no permiter game to make himself useful. I was hoping he'd make a jump next season, but it was pretty apparent midseason he had one foot out the door. Sad, entitled, soft.... overrated.


Explain how he was entitled.


Yeah, I didn't get that part either. I'm guessing it's because he's from Woodbury.
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Post#1787 » by Diggr14 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:58 pm

buckboy wrote:
chonestown wrote:
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He's listed at 6'9... he's all of 6'6 maybe 6'7. He's soft, not charmin soft... but soft and has no permiter game to make himself useful. I was hoping he'd make a jump next season, but it was pretty apparent midseason he had one foot out the door. Sad, entitled, soft.... overrated.


Explain how he was entitled.


Yeah, I didn't get that part either. I'm guessing it's because he's from Woodbury.


Sorry, it comes from the assumption that he thought he deserved more minutes on this team (which is true).. rather than working and earning them. He had a lot of talent, but was never going to displace Wahl for minutes, not unless he played harder and developed something Wahl couldnt do well... like shoot the 3. Most of the undertones about him transfering happened earlier in the season when Carter Gilmore was getting burn over him.
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Post#1788 » by chonestown » Thu Mar 31, 2022 3:38 pm

Diggr14 wrote:
buckboy wrote:
chonestown wrote:
Explain how he was entitled.


Yeah, I didn't get that part either. I'm guessing it's because he's from Woodbury.


Sorry, it comes from the assumption that he thought he deserved more minutes on this team (which is true).. rather than working and earning them. He had a lot of talent, but was never going to displace Wahl for minutes, not unless he played harder and developed something Wahl couldnt do well... like shoot the 3. Most of the undertones about him transfering happened earlier in the season when Carter Gilmore was getting burn over him.


This is replacing one assumption with another assumption. Instead of entitled, he's lazy?

Carlson found little time because he provided little production. Not only is there no need to juice up the narrative, there's no evidence supporting it. Carlson was tentative when he found time, indecisive when he took action on offense and frequently overpowered on defense. I don't see hard work overcoming those limitations. That's not taking unwarranted shots at Carlson. He didn't look like a rotation player for a good B10 team. It happens. Hell, it happens more years than not with UW scholly players.
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Post#1789 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Mar 31, 2022 7:44 pm

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Post#1790 » by MikeIsGood » Thu Mar 31, 2022 7:50 pm

As expected. Best of luck to him. Was a helluva fun year until the very end.
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Post#1791 » by Kerb Hohl » Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:08 pm

I will maintain that no **** I’d love to have Davis next year, but the team will be more dangerous/perhaps better if they get the transfers that I assume they can. Return to shooting 35% from 3 as all Wisconsin teams do, not 30%.
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Post#1792 » by jschligs » Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:08 pm

Best of luck to him.

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Post#1793 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:09 pm

I think he'll be a good NBA player. I also think once he was talked about as a lottery pick he pressed too much, forced things too much. I don't think he'll go as high as many do but looking forward to seeing him in the NBA next season.
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Post#1794 » by Kerb Hohl » Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:12 pm

I think if Johnny can get the 3P% up he will be a good player in the NBA. Or I guess he can have a unicorn Derozan career.

If he shoots like he did his entire freshman year + the 2nd half of this year, he will be a bust. Of course, no matter what, this was the right decision. I doubt he walks away with less than $20 million over the next 5 years.
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Post#1795 » by chonestown » Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:13 pm

<whistles lowly>
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Damn shame the current state of <makes air quotes with dramatic flourish> college basketball.
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Post#1796 » by buckboy » Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:16 pm

I hope for the best for Johnny.

I wouldn't take him in the top 15 though. I don't believe in the shooting.
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Post#1797 » by LittleRooster » Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:05 pm

Has there been any update on Chucky or even what injury he suffered?


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Post#1798 » by Kerb Hohl » Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:35 pm

LittleRooster wrote:Has there been any update on Chucky or even what injury he suffered?


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Post#1799 » by tski1972 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:40 pm

buckboy wrote:I hope for the best for Johnny.

I wouldn't take him in the top 15 though. I don't believe in the shooting.


This is where I am as well, wish him well but I just don’t see him as much more than a bench player at best.
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Post#1800 » by wallus » Fri Apr 1, 2022 1:54 am

Johnny will get abused his rookie year by most guys. He needs to get a lot stronger and I think he will. Hopefully in year 2 or 3 he will break out.

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