2022 NFL Draft discussion

[M-C-G]

I was high on Jennings that year and psyched when we got him. I wonder if this board goes back that far? I can provide the receipts.

I just see so much Greg Jennings in his routes, coming back to the ball, body movement and hands, even his run after the catch has some Jennings to it.

I think the knock on him is he doesn't have anything elite, but a 4.43 is an incredible time yet. It wouldn't shock me if he comes out of this draft as one of the best three WR in it when it is all said and done, but then again I wanted Jalen Reagor so bad, so who knows.

How many NFL WR's are less than 180 lbs ?? Especially at 5'-11". I fear for his life if he runs any routes between the hashes in the NFL. That puts him miles behind Jennings. His 3-cone was pretty horrible at 7.28 and those two things alone may have him off GB's board. For reference, AJ Dillon's 3-cone was 7.19 at 250 lbs. TJ Slaton's 3-cone was 7.9 at 330 lbs. Greg Jennings was 6.68 at 197 lbs. I believe the usual cut-off for WR is 7.1. If you are 180 soaking wet, you better have the ability to teleport. All of this is FWIW, but sill .....

There is a trend of WR slimming way down for the 40 and in general the position (and RB) seems to be telling the 3 cone to F off.

But at the end of the day I am talking about what I see. But I’m a hobbyist that just likes the bit I see with this guy


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[DrWood]

I'm all aboard doing what it takes to get Williams or Olave. I don't think either falls to us. The mocks online are fun to look at but most of them change every day simply to get people to keep coming back. It's all about clicks.

There's a good chance that one of them, or London, will be available at #22.
If they're not, so what? Take the guy (OT, DT, or Lloyd, etc., but not a QB) who dropped or trade down.

Trading up (other than to take advantage of a player who fell inexplicably) is usually a bad idea. I would rather trade down and get 3 WRs in the first 3 rounds than trading up and getting one.

[sdn40]

I just see so much Greg Jennings in his routes, coming back to the ball, body movement and hands, even his run after the catch has some Jennings to it.

I think the knock on him is he doesn't have anything elite, but a 4.43 is an incredible time yet. It wouldn't shock me if he comes out of this draft as one of the best three WR in it when it is all said and done, but then again I wanted Jalen Reagor so bad, so who knows.

How many NFL WR's are less than 180 lbs ?? Especially at 5'-11". I fear for his life if he runs any routes between the hashes in the NFL. That puts him miles behind Jennings. His 3-cone was pretty horrible at 7.28 and those two things alone may have him off GB's board. For reference, AJ Dillon's 3-cone was 7.19 at 250 lbs. TJ Slaton's 3-cone was 7.9 at 330 lbs. Greg Jennings was 6.68 at 197 lbs. I believe the usual cut-off for WR is 7.1. If you are 180 soaking wet, you better have the ability to teleport. All of this is FWIW, but sill .....

There is a trend of WR slimming way down for the 40 and in general the position (and RB) seems to be telling the 3 cone to F off.

But at the end of the day I am talking about what I see. But I’m a hobbyist that just likes the bit I see with this guy


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It's all FWIW, but my exaggerated question is, at that weight and no twitch, what would stop NFL CB's from just reaching over and throwing him to the ground every play ?

[Matches Malone]

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[ReasonablySober]

To be fair, looking back my 2007 draft wishlist sucked something FIERCE.

I wanted a CB so I was convinced the pick was gonna be Hall or Ross. A ton of Robert Meacham fans that year. Reggie Nelson as well IIRC

The Hitman. He was my draft crush. He, uh, definitely didn't pan out.

[DrWood]

This was fun as hell. I traded Love and #28 to DET for most of their picks after their own FRP. Traded #22 and #92 for the Jets' two early 2nd round picks. Then traded down whenever one of the guys I wanted wasn't highly ranked (except where I thought the PFF ranking was off). Replaced Love with Corral. Got 17 guys in the top 117 picks. 8 guys in the 2nd round; 7 guys in the 3rd. Special teams, fixed. LB, fixed. 3 promising WR. Edge depth, fixed. Offensive Line depth, fixed. Heir for Rodgers, accomplished. A ton of speed across the field. Ability to cut some veterans and save $, accomplished
35. Leo Chenal, LB
41. Matt Corral, QB
46. Jalen Tolbert, WR
53. Kingsley Enagbare, ED
54. Abraham Lucas, OT
57. Christian Watson, WR
63. Troy Anderson, LB
64. Dylan Parham, OG
75. Perrion Winfrey, DT
77. John Metchie, WR
83. Nick Cross, S
85. Cole Strange, OG
92. Zyon McCollum, CB
94. Greg Dulcich, TE
95. Kellen Diesch OT
111. Tariq Castro-Fields, CB
117. Sam Williams, ED

[BallinBucks420]

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wow i really liked that Danny Gray film..obviously have heard tyquan talks for a bit since the combine, but haven't heard much on Gray..what round area are they projecting him to go?

[DrWood]

wow i really liked that Danny Gray film..obviously have heard tyquan talks for a bit since the combine, but haven't heard much on Gray..what round area are they projecting him to go?

5th or later.

[BallinBucks420]

wow i really liked that Danny Gray film..obviously have heard tyquan talks for a bit since the combine, but haven't heard much on Gray..what round area are they projecting him to go?

5th or later.

Thanks, for those of you that follow the Draft more then me, do you think the WR class is deep enough where you can still find good WR's in the 5th- 7th rounds?

[Matches Malone]

wow i really liked that Danny Gray film..obviously have heard tyquan talks for a bit since the combine, but haven't heard much on Gray..what round area are they projecting him to go?

5th or later.

Thanks, for those of you that follow the Draft more then me, do you think the WR class is deep enough where you can still find good WR's in the 5th- 7th rounds?

Personally, I feel the sweet spot of the draft for WR's will be the 2nd and 3rd round. I really like Alec Pierce and starting to enjoy Skyy Moore's game. Christian Watson fits the Gute type and like him a lot. If there isn't a WR at #22 that they like, I wouldn't mind them moving #28 for a second and whatever else and taking a receiver earlier in the second.

As for the 5th-7th rounds, Danny Gray and Dontario Drummond are my favorites. I think there's guys that could be really good return guys for us in that area like Velvus Jones or Bo Melton.

[Profound23]

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Do they know how to run 60 yards downfield at light speed and drop a wide-open TD that is placed perfectly in their hands though?

[ReddRum]

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Do they know how to run 60 yards downfield at light speed and drop a wide-open TD that is placed perfectly in their hands though?

LOL - yeah MVS is overrated, certainly not worth $10 million per year. Which means he will probably become an all pro on the Chiefs!

[LikeABosh]

5th or later.

Thanks, for those of you that follow the Draft more then me, do you think the WR class is deep enough where you can still find good WR's in the 5th- 7th rounds?

Personally, I feel the sweet spot of the draft for WR's will be the 2nd and 3rd round. I really like Alec Pierce and starting to enjoy Skyy Moore's game. Christian Watson fits the Gute type and like him a lot. If there isn't a WR at #22 that they like, I wouldn't mind them moving #28 for a second and whatever else and taking a receiver earlier in the second.

As for the 5th-7th rounds, Danny Gray and Dontario Drummond are my favorites. I think there's guys that could be really good return guys for us in that area like Velvus Jones or Bo Melton.

I'm with you there. A lot of the day 2 prospects have the high RAS's you expect to find in a Gute draft as well. I'd love to get two of Pierce/Pickens/Watson and then maybe Thornton in the later rounds

So with that in mind, #22 is BPA for me. With the exception of CB and QB I guess

[Treebeard]

From CBS Sport.com (I like the sites format - easy for an old fart to read and track)
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/nfl-draft-2022-best-backup-plans-for-teams-that-miss-out-on-ahmad-gardner-breece-hall-and-more-top-prospects/

A fun bit of click-bait, picking some day two and day three alternatives to some top candidates, by position

Wide Receiver

Plan A: Garrett Wilson, Ohio State
Plan B: Khalil Shakir, Boise State

Shakir is a menace with the football in his hands. The contact balance, vision, and cutting skills are all there. Like Wilson, he's a body contortionist down the sideline on errant throws, often somehow reeling them in.

Plan C: Josh Johnson, Tulsa

Johnson might be the most nuanced route runner in the entire class. Yes, right up there with the Ohio State wideouts. He's not a freaky athlete by any stretch. He's not stiff and slow, either.

Defensive Tackle

Plan A: Jordan Davis, Georgia
Plan B: Eyioma Uwazurike, Iowa State

Travis Jones from UConn would be the easy selection here, so I'll go in a different direction. Eyioma is a 6-6, 315-pound legitimately versatile rusher who's actually much longer than Davis on the inside. He can play any defensive line position -- did so in college -- and brings a mature pass-rushing arsenal to the field that not only features nifty hand work but a devastating bull rush. He's not as sturdy against the run as Davis, obviously, but is actually further ahead when tasked to get after the quarterback and is a quality athlete for his size.

Plan C: Marquan McCall, Kentucky

McCall is hyper-active at the nose tackle spot. Love that about his game. For being nearly 350 pounds, he plays with a stunning burst/punch combination. He'll even toss in a spin move on occasion to show interior blockers he's more than just a pocket pusher. Now, McCall isn't a hand-work sensei but does play with reckless abandon on the field.

BTW: Jack Coan gets the "Plan B" nod under the QBs

[DrWood]

Personally, I feel the sweet spot of the draft for WR's will be the 2nd and 3rd round. I really like Alec Pierce and starting to enjoy Skyy Moore's game. Christian Watson fits the Gute type and like him a lot. If there isn't a WR at #22 that they like, I wouldn't mind them moving #28 for a second and whatever else and taking a receiver earlier in the second.

I agree, except I'd swap Skyy Moore (who will be limited to the slot position, at least early in his career) for Jalen Tolbert. It's possible they could get Watson, Tolbert, and Pierce in the same draft, though they'd have to trade down (early 2nd for Watson).

[Matches Malone]

Personally, I feel the sweet spot of the draft for WR's will be the 2nd and 3rd round. I really like Alec Pierce and starting to enjoy Skyy Moore's game. Christian Watson fits the Gute type and like him a lot. If there isn't a WR at #22 that they like, I wouldn't mind them moving #28 for a second and whatever else and taking a receiver earlier in the second.

I agree, except I'd swap Skyy Moore (who will be limited to the slot position, at least early in his career) for Jalen Tolbert. It's possible they could get Watson, Tolbert, and Pierce in the same draft, though they'd have to trade down (early 2nd for Watson).

I'm not too worried about Moore primarily being a slot, mainly because I feel like the offense will probably have to change up a bit with no Adams now. Moore's route running is so good though. Also, our current slot guys are Cobb and Amari. Meh.

It'll be dang near impossible to find another perimeter receiver in the draft and just plug and play for Adams. My hope is MLF can add in a bit more Shannahan to his play calling. More jet motions, orbit routes, play action. Then again, Rodgers has to want to do that stuff to I suppose.

I do like your idea of Tolbert or Watson though. They would be excellent additions in the 2nd round.

[Matches Malone]

I'm becoming more intrigued with Garrett Wilson. He's been mocked all over the place like most of this WR class, but he really does move a bit like OBJ. His footwork is a bit sloppy, but he can contort his body in ways that it doesn't really affect him. I've seen him mocked at #22 to the Packers but also have seen him taken as high as #8 to ATL.

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[VooDoo7]

I'll never understand why they don't have the guys wearing their gear during combine drills/40.

[DrWood]

I have a problem, people. My name is Dr. Wood and I'm addicted to draft simulations. I like this one a lot, though I would have liked to pick up a CB. I traded down whenever there was no one I liked who was ranked highly. Only have 11 guys this time. I traded Love to DET with our #92 For their #34, #66, and #97, and #217. Didn't have any picks left in rounds 5-7 when I was through.

34. Travis Jones DT Connecticut (If they want him, they'll have to get to the beginning of the 2nd to get him).
36. Matt Corral QB Mississippi. Pickett and the Cincy QB were also available here. I think Corral can be Drew Brees with legs.
44. Leo Chenal LB Wisconsin. (At this point in the Draft, Aaron would be tweeting curse words about them not picking anyone to help him.)
51. Jalen Tolbert WR S. Alabama. I don't think he's better than Watson, but PFF ranked him higher, so if I wanted both, he had to come first.
53. Trey McBride TE Colorado St.
56. Christian Watson WR, N. Dakota St.
59. Kingsley Enagbare EDGE, S. Carolina.
72. Alec Pierce WR, Cincinnati.
81. Nick Cross S, Maryland.
102. Kellen Diesch OT, Arizona St.
111. Lecitus Smith OG, VA Tech.

Can we all just go ahead and take this one?