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2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN)

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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#201 » by Hal14 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:58 pm

playa-hater wrote:Normally you draft the best player available but the need for getting A45 is now so great with Robert Williams and horford that unless it's a really bad choice we really have to focus on that

A couple bigs I like:

Orlando Robinson, Fresno St
Ariel Hukporti, Melbourne United

Both of them are 7'0". Both solid defensively, can block some shots and rebound. Hukporti is younger and played in a much tougher league this season. He also has an urgency/intensity/tenacity about the way he plays which i really like. For real, the dude plays like every guy on the opposing team just called his mama a bad name. That intensity is something I saw in Begarin too when evaluating him last year..

Robinson however is better in terms of being able to take his man off the dribble and also nail the 3-pointer.. both have a decent chance of still being on the board.. Robinson shot 34% from 3 on 3 attempts a game this season - however during his last 5 games to end the season he shot 10/21 from 3 (47.6%). Guys who are 7'0" with a 7'4" wingspan who can shoot that high a % from 3, rebound and block shots at age 21 don't grow on trees. He's a 1st round talent IMO..

Word on the street, Austin Ainge was in australia scouting a game Hukporti was playing in recently. And Hukporti is from Germany - we know the Celtics like German players (first theis, then schroder, then theis again). The other cool thing about Hukporti - he's an international player and only 19 yrs old so you know what that means - he could be a potential draft and stash candidate..

Edit: the game where Austin Ainge was in the building last week, Hukporti put up 11 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals, 2 blocks with just 1 turnover and only 2 fouls in just 18 minutes. So a really solid showing.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#202 » by djFan71 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:22 am

playa-hater wrote:Normally you draft the best player available but the need for getting A45 is now so great with Robert Williams and horford that unless it's a really bad choice we really have to focus on that

I still say go tall wing 3&D guy. You could call that a 4, I guess, so maybe that's what you mean. And, I know Im preaching to the choice, but you can never have enough, and we basically have nobody behind JT. JB and down we're good. You can always vet min / TPMLE a big. Bigs take a long time to develop and our window is NOW, so unless it's a special one that is somehow available at 53 or whatever, then I'd probably pass.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#203 » by Hal14 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:08 pm

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playa-hater wrote:Normally you draft the best player available but the need for getting A45 is now so great with Robert Williams and horford that unless it's a really bad choice we really have to focus on that

I still say go tall wing 3&D guy. You could call that a 4, I guess, so maybe that's what you mean. And, I know Im preaching to the choice, but you can never have enough, and we basically have nobody behind JT. JB and down we're good. You can always vet min / TPMLE a big. Bigs take a long time to develop and our window is NOW, so unless it's a special one that is somehow available at 53 or whatever, then I'd probably pass.

Tall wing. 3&D. A guy who is further along in his development since we're trying to win now.

You're gonna like Gabe Brown and Julian Champagnie.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#204 » by djFan71 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:04 pm

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playa-hater wrote:Normally you draft the best player available but the need for getting A45 is now so great with Robert Williams and horford that unless it's a really bad choice we really have to focus on that

I still say go tall wing 3&D guy. You could call that a 4, I guess, so maybe that's what you mean. And, I know Im preaching to the choice, but you can never have enough, and we basically have nobody behind JT. JB and down we're good. You can always vet min / TPMLE a big. Bigs take a long time to develop and our window is NOW, so unless it's a special one that is somehow available at 53 or whatever, then I'd probably pass.

Tall wing. 3&D. A guy who is further along in his development since we're trying to win now.

You're gonna like Gabe Brown and Julian Champagnie.

I've already accepted Gabe Brown as inevitable and am fully on board, lol.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#205 » by playa-hater » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:21 pm

djFan71 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:Normally you draft the best player available but the need for getting A45 is now so great with Robert Williams and horford that unless it's a really bad choice we really have to focus on that

I still say go tall wing 3&D guy. You could call that a 4, I guess, so maybe that's what you mean. And, I know Im preaching to the choice, but you can never have enough, and we basically have nobody behind JT. JB and down we're good. You can always vet min / TPMLE a big. Bigs take a long time to develop and our window is NOW, so unless it's a special one that is somehow available at 53 or whatever, then I'd probably pass.


actually the "vet minimum" or using our "trade exemptions" are the first choice for a Big.. but since that bridge has not been crossed and this is a draft thread. Truth is might need a big wing/4-5 man from both sources.

If need be, Boston next year is 3 deep at PG (Smart, D White, PP) 3 deep at 2G (Brown-D White-Nesmith) and 3 deep at the bigger wing (Tatum-Brown and Nesmith) then throw in Begarin who should be able to play behind both wing spots. Hauser is a 3-4 I guess. But Al is old and RW may still be fragile. The dropoff after that is significant. Grant, while good is 6'6 and Theis is 6'8.. No damn length at all.

BPA with a heavy dose looking at a versatile Big, unless a trade or FA signing occurs.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#206 » by djFan71 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:43 pm

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playa-hater wrote:Normally you draft the best player available but the need for getting A45 is now so great with Robert Williams and horford that unless it's a really bad choice we really have to focus on that

I still say go tall wing 3&D guy. You could call that a 4, I guess, so maybe that's what you mean. And, I know Im preaching to the choice, but you can never have enough, and we basically have nobody behind JT. JB and down we're good. You can always vet min / TPMLE a big. Bigs take a long time to develop and our window is NOW, so unless it's a special one that is somehow available at 53 or whatever, then I'd probably pass.


actually the "vet minimum" or using our "trade exemptions" are the first choice for a Big.. but since that bridge has not been crossed and this is a draft thread. Truth is might need a big wing/4-5 man from both sources.

If need be, Boston next year is 3 deep at PG (Smart, D White, PP) 3 deep at 2G (Brown-D White-Nesmith) and 3 deep at the bigger wing (Tatum-Brown and Nesmith) then throw in Begarin who should be able to play behind both wing spots. Hauser is a 3-4 I guess. But Al is old and RW may still be fragile. The dropoff after that is significant. Grant, while good is 6'6 and Theis is 6'8.. No damn length at all.

BPA with a heavy dose looking at a versatile Big, unless a trade or FA signing occurs.

BPA above all else, definitely. I think Brown/Nesmith/Begarin are a little short for 4, so having another wing 6'8+ behind Tatum would be nice. Brad's definitely looking at that 3-4 with his signings like Fitts and Martin and Howard somewhat (a little short for my taste even with the wingspan), along with shooting.

Big-wise, Rob/Al/Theis/Grant and Kornet/other signing work for me. I'd love an eventual Al replacement, just not sure you're finding it super late 2nd round. But if there's someone there, sure, grab them. We're basically differing on 3-4 vs 4-5 in a BPA tiebreaker scenario, so we're pretty close, lol.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#207 » by Hal14 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:18 pm

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playa-hater wrote:
djFan71 wrote:I still say go tall wing 3&D guy. You could call that a 4, I guess, so maybe that's what you mean. And, I know Im preaching to the choice, but you can never have enough, and we basically have nobody behind JT. JB and down we're good. You can always vet min / TPMLE a big. Bigs take a long time to develop and our window is NOW, so unless it's a special one that is somehow available at 53 or whatever, then I'd probably pass.


actually the "vet minimum" or using our "trade exemptions" are the first choice for a Big.. but since that bridge has not been crossed and this is a draft thread. Truth is might need a big wing/4-5 man from both sources.

If need be, Boston next year is 3 deep at PG (Smart, D White, PP) 3 deep at 2G (Brown-D White-Nesmith) and 3 deep at the bigger wing (Tatum-Brown and Nesmith) then throw in Begarin who should be able to play behind both wing spots. Hauser is a 3-4 I guess. But Al is old and RW may still be fragile. The dropoff after that is significant. Grant, while good is 6'6 and Theis is 6'8.. No damn length at all.

BPA with a heavy dose looking at a versatile Big, unless a trade or FA signing occurs.

BPA above all else, definitely. I think Brown/Nesmith/Begarin are a little short for 4, so having another wing 6'8+ behind Tatum would be nice. Brad's definitely looking at that 3-4 with his signings like Fitts and Martin and Howard somewhat (a little short for my taste even with the wingspan), along with shooting.

Big-wise, Rob/Al/Theis/Grant and Kornet/other signing work for me. I'd love an eventual Al replacement, just not sure you're finding it super late 2nd round. But if there's someone there, sure, grab them. We're basically differing on 3-4 vs 4-5 in a BPA tiebreaker scenario, so we're pretty close, lol.

You mean Juwan Morgan?

Yeah I would just add that there's no guarantee begarin will be inn boston next season. he's not under contract with us for next season. Nesmith is not a big wing. He's a wing. But doesn't have great size.

Hauser? I wouldn't really be factoring him in very much. If he comes back next season and has made big improvements, great. But here's the thing - he's an awesome shooter there's no doubting that. But in terms of speed/mobility/athleticism/defense, unless he really takes a leap in these areas i don't see him cracking the rotation and being much of a factor. People keep making duncan robinson comparisons, but duncan robinson did a pretty good job defending Jayson Tatum in the ECF during robinson's first full season in the NBA. Robinson is much quicker and more fluid with the way he moves on the court. If Hauser can get there, then awesome but until then, I don't think brad is drafting or making any moves based on Hauser being an important piece.

Really the only guys i think brad is factoring in as possibly being an important part of next year's team: Tatum, brown, rob, al, smart, white, grant, pritchard, theis, nesmith. and even some of those guys could be moved via trade this offseason..

That's it. Everyone else is either not under contract or only has a partially guaranteed contract. I think whoever we take with this 2nd round pick, they're competing with Hauser/Stauskus/Fitts, etc for 1 of those 5 remaining roster sports, they're likely an end of the bench guy (especially during rookie year) but if you really nail this pick they could be a guy who sneaks into the rotation as the 10th or even 9th man..
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#208 » by djFan71 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:12 pm

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playa-hater wrote:
actually the "vet minimum" or using our "trade exemptions" are the first choice for a Big.. but since that bridge has not been crossed and this is a draft thread. Truth is might need a big wing/4-5 man from both sources.

If need be, Boston next year is 3 deep at PG (Smart, D White, PP) 3 deep at 2G (Brown-D White-Nesmith) and 3 deep at the bigger wing (Tatum-Brown and Nesmith) then throw in Begarin who should be able to play behind both wing spots. Hauser is a 3-4 I guess. But Al is old and RW may still be fragile. The dropoff after that is significant. Grant, while good is 6'6 and Theis is 6'8.. No damn length at all.

BPA with a heavy dose looking at a versatile Big, unless a trade or FA signing occurs.

BPA above all else, definitely. I think Brown/Nesmith/Begarin are a little short for 4, so having another wing 6'8+ behind Tatum would be nice. Brad's definitely looking at that 3-4 with his signings like Fitts and Martin and Howard somewhat (a little short for my taste even with the wingspan), along with shooting.

Big-wise, Rob/Al/Theis/Grant and Kornet/other signing work for me. I'd love an eventual Al replacement, just not sure you're finding it super late 2nd round. But if there's someone there, sure, grab them. We're basically differing on 3-4 vs 4-5 in a BPA tiebreaker scenario, so we're pretty close, lol.

You mean Juwan Morgan?

Yeah I would just add that there's no guarantee begarin will be inn boston next season. he's not under contract with us for next season. Nesmith is not a big wing. He's a wing. But doesn't have great size.

Hauser? I wouldn't really be factoring him in very much. If he comes back next season and has made big improvements, great. But here's the thing - he's an awesome shooter there's no doubting that. But in terms of speed/mobility/athleticism/defense, unless he really takes a leap in these areas i don't see him cracking the rotation and being much of a factor. People keep making duncan robinson comparisons, but duncan robinson did a pretty good job defending Jayson Tatum in the ECF during robinson's first full season in the NBA. Robinson is much quicker and more fluid with the way he moves on the court. If Hauser can get there, then awesome but until then, I don't think brad is drafting or making any moves based on Hauser being an important piece.

Really the only guys i think brad is factoring in as possibly being an important part of next year's team: Tatum, brown, rob, al, smart, white, grant, pritchard, theis, nesmith. and even some of those guys could be moved via trade this offseason..

That's it. Everyone else is either not under contract or only has a partially guaranteed contract.

Yeah, Juwan Morgan not Howard - whoops! Sorry Juwan, that's a slap in the face... :D

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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#209 » by Scoonie » Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:02 pm

New 2-round mock draft from Jonathan Wasserman at Bleacher Report has:

-Israel Kamagate going at #36
-Jaylin Williams going at #39
-Orlando Robinson going at #41
-Alondes Williams going at #43
-Garbriele Procida going at #45
-Jabari Walker going at #48
-Julian Champagnie going at #49
-Matt Spagnola going at #51
-Ron Harper Jr. going at #56 to the Celtics
-Johnny Juzang going at #58
-Iverson Molinar not being drafted

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2954800-2022-nba-mock-draft-full-2-round-predictions-ahead-of-final-four
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Post#210 » by playa-hater » Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:29 pm

Scoonie wrote:New 2-round mock draft from Jonathan Wasserman at Bleacher Report has:

-Israel Kamagate going at #36
-Jaylin Williams going at #39
-Orlando Robinson going at #41
-Alondes Williams going at #43
-Garbriele Procida going at #45
-Jabari Walker going at #48
-Julian Champagnie going at #49
-Matt Spagnola going at #51
-Ron Harper Jr. going at #56 to the Celtics
-Johnny Juzang going at #58
-Iverson Molinar not being drafted

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2954800-2022-nba-mock-draft-full-2-round-predictions-ahead-of-final-four


Standing height is overrated, but length is not IMO.. Harper would be OK in my eyes
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Post#211 » by Hal14 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 3:39 pm

Scoonie wrote:New 2-round mock draft from Jonathan Wasserman at Bleacher Report has:

-Israel Kamagate going at #36
-Jaylin Williams going at #39
-Orlando Robinson going at #41
-Alondes Williams going at #43
-Garbriele Procida going at #45
-Jabari Walker going at #48
-Julian Champagnie going at #49
-Matt Spagnola going at #51
-Ron Harper Jr. going at #56 to the Celtics
-Johnny Juzang going at #58
-Iverson Molinar not being drafted

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2954800-2022-nba-mock-draft-full-2-round-predictions-ahead-of-final-four

I like Harper. My concern with him though is mobility wise, lateral quickness wise, being able to keep up with the speed of the NBA game, with faster pace and more spacing.

I wouldn't hate the pick, though - especially if he can try to slim down a little and get quicker.

These guys all went undrafted in that mock:

-Gabe Brown
-Dalen Terry
-Jalen Williams

I'm high on all 3 of those guys.

Jalen williams just declared for the draft...he's GOOD, 1st round talent IMO. There's some plays in this video where he scores easily on Chet Holmgren, who's currently projected by many to be the 1st pick in the draft..

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Post#212 » by djFan71 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 4:42 pm

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Hal14 wrote:
Scoonie wrote:New 2-round mock draft from Jonathan Wasserman at Bleacher Report has:

-Israel Kamagate going at #36
-Jaylin Williams going at #39
-Orlando Robinson going at #41
-Alondes Williams going at #43
-Garbriele Procida going at #45
-Jabari Walker going at #48
-Julian Champagnie going at #49
-Matt Spagnola going at #51
-Ron Harper Jr. going at #56 to the Celtics
-Johnny Juzang going at #58
-Iverson Molinar not being drafted

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2954800-2022-nba-mock-draft-full-2-round-predictions-ahead-of-final-four

I like Harper. My concern with him though is mobility wise, lateral quickness wise, being able to keep up with the speed of the NBA game, with faster pace and more spacing.

I wouldn't hate the pick, though - especially if he can try to slim down a little and get quicker.

These guys all went undrafted in that mock:

-Gabe Brown
-Dalen Terry
-Jalen Williams

I'm high on all 3 of those guys.

Jalen williams just declared for the draft...he's GOOD, 1st round talent IMO. There's some plays in this video where he scores easily on Chet Holmgren, who's currently projected by many to be the 1st pick in the draft..

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Perhaps it's fate for the celitcs to pick a guy named jalen williams lol

I'm super uninformed about him, but yeah, Ron Harper Jr doesn't excite me. But the Jalen Williams fit in name and style is too good to pass up. I wanna get into the 30s somehow, though.

Did you see Tankathon has us taking Josh Minott? Quick google sounds intriguing but all over the road on scouting. SI says:

"Minott combines an unrelenting motor on both ends of the floor with great length (7-foot-2 wingspan) that enables him to guard all five positions. He’s a capable scorer at all three levels and shot 43 percent from three last season."

Drool.

But that was coming out of HS. Now, others say weaknesses are shooting and defense, lol. So.... shrug.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#213 » by Hal14 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:22 pm

djFan71 wrote:
Spoiler:
Hal14 wrote:
Scoonie wrote:New 2-round mock draft from Jonathan Wasserman at Bleacher Report has:

-Israel Kamagate going at #36
-Jaylin Williams going at #39
-Orlando Robinson going at #41
-Alondes Williams going at #43
-Garbriele Procida going at #45
-Jabari Walker going at #48
-Julian Champagnie going at #49
-Matt Spagnola going at #51
-Ron Harper Jr. going at #56 to the Celtics
-Johnny Juzang going at #58
-Iverson Molinar not being drafted

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2954800-2022-nba-mock-draft-full-2-round-predictions-ahead-of-final-four

I like Harper. My concern with him though is mobility wise, lateral quickness wise, being able to keep up with the speed of the NBA game, with faster pace and more spacing.

I wouldn't hate the pick, though - especially if he can try to slim down a little and get quicker.

These guys all went undrafted in that mock:

-Gabe Brown
-Dalen Terry
-Jalen Williams

I'm high on all 3 of those guys.

Jalen williams just declared for the draft...he's GOOD, 1st round talent IMO. There's some plays in this video where he scores easily on Chet Holmgren, who's currently projected by many to be the 1st pick in the draft..

Read on Twitter


Perhaps it's fate for the celitcs to pick a guy named jalen williams lol

I'm super uninformed about him, but yeah, Ron Harper Jr doesn't excite me. But the Jalen Williams fit in name and style is too good to pass up. I wanna get into the 30s somehow, though.

Did you see Tankathon has us taking Josh Minott? Quick google sounds intriguing but all over the road on scouting. SI says:

"Minott combines an unrelenting motor on both ends of the floor with great length (7-foot-2 wingspan) that enables him to guard all five positions. He’s a capable scorer at all three levels and shot 43 percent from three last season."

Drool.

But that was coming out of HS. Now, others say weaknesses are shooting and defense, lol. So.... shrug.

I'm not super high on Minott. Shot 14% from 3 this season. Only played 14 mins a game for a memphis team that was good but not THAT good. Good size, really athletic but not enough skill, too raw, he should go back to school IMO..
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Post#214 » by djFan71 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:41 pm

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djFan71 wrote:I'm super uninformed about him, but yeah, Ron Harper Jr doesn't excite me. But the Jalen Williams fit in name and style is too good to pass up. I wanna get into the 30s somehow, though.

Did you see Tankathon has us taking Josh Minott? Quick google sounds intriguing but all over the road on scouting. SI says:

"Minott combines an unrelenting motor on both ends of the floor with great length (7-foot-2 wingspan) that enables him to guard all five positions. He’s a capable scorer at all three levels and shot 43 percent from three last season."

Drool.

But that was coming out of HS. Now, others say weaknesses are shooting and defense, lol. So.... shrug.

I'm not super high on Minott. Shot 14% from 3 this season. Only played 14 mins a game for a memphis team that was good but not THAT good. Good size, really athletic but not enough skill, too raw, he should go back to school IMO..

Yeah, I saw the college stats, or lack thereof. If he comes out and the D/motor part is real, I'd take a shot as a 2-way roll of the dice and hope the shooting comes around. Obviously depending on who else is out there.
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Post#215 » by Hal14 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:53 pm

djFan71 wrote:
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djFan71 wrote:I'm super uninformed about him, but yeah, Ron Harper Jr doesn't excite me. But the Jalen Williams fit in name and style is too good to pass up. I wanna get into the 30s somehow, though.

Did you see Tankathon has us taking Josh Minott? Quick google sounds intriguing but all over the road on scouting. SI says:

"Minott combines an unrelenting motor on both ends of the floor with great length (7-foot-2 wingspan) that enables him to guard all five positions. He’s a capable scorer at all three levels and shot 43 percent from three last season."

Drool.

But that was coming out of HS. Now, others say weaknesses are shooting and defense, lol. So.... shrug.

I'm not super high on Minott. Shot 14% from 3 this season. Only played 14 mins a game for a memphis team that was good but not THAT good. Good size, really athletic but not enough skill, too raw, he should go back to school IMO..

Yeah, I saw the college stats, or lack thereof. If he comes out and the D/motor part is real, I'd take a shot as a 2-way roll of the dice and hope the shooting comes around. Obviously depending on who else is out there.

If we're talking about guys who are young and athletic, high upside picks. A guy who gets a 2-way contract, spends most of next season in g-league but has really high potential long term, I'm taking Dominick Barlow.

-6'9" with a 7'1" wingspan
-Only 18 yrs old - turns 19 in May
-Shot 33% from 3 this season, but showed rapid improvement with his 3 ball over the course of the season after starting off 1/12 from 3. Had a game later in the year where had dropped 27 points and hit 5/6 from 3
-Really good, versatile defender
-Plays with a fire, intensity, urgency
-Can put the ball on the floor and either take it to the rim, or pull up and hit jumper from mid range or from 3
-Solid passer
-It's honestly hard to find anything to not like about Barlow as a prospect. He's very underrated. Jeremy Sochan is a projected lottery pick - I'm a big fan of Sochan as a prospect but there's nothing he does on a basketball court that Barlow can't do, Barlow is same size and same age. Yet Sochan is projected lottery and Barlow is projected late 2nd round or undrafted. Barlow could be a steal.

Oh and he played the 2020-2021 season at Bridgton Academy in Maine, so he's already familiar with northern new england - and maine specifically..

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Post#216 » by djFan71 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:16 pm

Hal14 wrote:
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Hal14 wrote:I'm not super high on Minott. Shot 14% from 3 this season. Only played 14 mins a game for a memphis team that was good but not THAT good. Good size, really athletic but not enough skill, too raw, he should go back to school IMO..

Yeah, I saw the college stats, or lack thereof. If he comes out and the D/motor part is real, I'd take a shot as a 2-way roll of the dice and hope the shooting comes around. Obviously depending on who else is out there.

If we're talking about guys who are young and athletic, high upside picks. A guy who gets a 2-way contract, spends most of next season in g-league but has really high potential long term, I'm taking Dominick Barlow.
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-6'9" with a 7'1" wingspan
-Only 18 yrs old - turns 19 in May
-Shot 33% from 3 this season, including a game where he hit 5/6 from 3
-Really good, versatile defender
-Plays with a fire, intensity, urgency
-Can put the ball on the floor and either take it to the rim, or pull up and hit jumper from mid range or from 3
-Solid passer
-It's honestly hard to find anything to not like about Barlow as a prospect. He's very underrated. Jeremy Sochan is a projected lottery pick - I'm a big fan of Sochan as a prospect but there's nothing he does on a basketball court that Barlow can't do, Barlow is same size and same age. Yet Sochan is projected lottery and Barlow is projected late 2nd round or undrafted. Barlow could be a steal.

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I'm not sure we'll have the chance, but I'm on board as well. NBA Draft Room is my go to, and they have him at 41 so I've kinda just skimmed by him. But, so far nobody else has him, so maybe he will be around. Definitely the type of guy worth a late pick shot on.
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Post#217 » by Hal14 » Fri Apr 1, 2022 12:59 am

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djFan71 wrote:Yeah, I saw the college stats, or lack thereof. If he comes out and the D/motor part is real, I'd take a shot as a 2-way roll of the dice and hope the shooting comes around. Obviously depending on who else is out there.

If we're talking about guys who are young and athletic, high upside picks. A guy who gets a 2-way contract, spends most of next season in g-league but has really high potential long term, I'm taking Dominick Barlow.
Spoiler:
-6'9" with a 7'1" wingspan
-Only 18 yrs old - turns 19 in May
-Shot 33% from 3 this season, including a game where he hit 5/6 from 3
-Really good, versatile defender
-Plays with a fire, intensity, urgency
-Can put the ball on the floor and either take it to the rim, or pull up and hit jumper from mid range or from 3
-Solid passer
-It's honestly hard to find anything to not like about Barlow as a prospect. He's very underrated. Jeremy Sochan is a projected lottery pick - I'm a big fan of Sochan as a prospect but there's nothing he does on a basketball court that Barlow can't do, Barlow is same size and same age. Yet Sochan is projected lottery and Barlow is projected late 2nd round or undrafted. Barlow could be a steal.

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I'm not sure we'll have the chance, but I'm on board as well. NBA Draft Room is my go to, and they have him at 41 so I've kinda just skimmed by him. But, so far nobody else has him, so maybe he will be around. Definitely the type of guy worth a late pick shot on.

yeah most of the mocks I have seen he has gone undrafted. But I definitely think he's a guy who could rise up boards as we get closer to the draft. So definitely a chance he goes before our pick. But if Barlow is still there...like i said, he could turn out to be a major steal. Projects as an ideal 4-man in the modern NBA, could slide in nicely here at the 4 once he's developed enough, obviously with rob at the 5, tatum at the 3, brown at the 2..

Barlow is a guy that between how young he is and the lower level of competition he faced this year, he's likely going to need to spend most of next season in the g-league. But I think by year 2 he could be getting decent mins off the bench and it wouldn't shock me if he's a starter by year 3.
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Post#218 » by playa-hater » Fri Apr 1, 2022 3:52 am

Some may disagree but I feel the game of basketball has grown so much especially worldwide that the NBA should go back to having at least 3 rounds of draft. Young players can be sent to the G league but there is just too much talent, That not everyone can get drafted in every 60 picks per year
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Post#219 » by Hal14 » Fri Apr 1, 2022 1:24 pm

playa-hater wrote:Some may disagree but I feel the game of basketball has grown so much especially worldwide that the NBA should go back to having at least 3 rounds of draft. Young players can be sent to the G league but there is just too much talent, That not everyone can get drafted in every 60 picks per year

i would agree - if there were more teams in the league.

As it it right now, though - there's actually several good players who were 1st round picks in 2021 (moses moody, james bouknight, kai jones, jalen johnson, usman garuba, jaden springer, etc) who have spent basically the entire season in g league - let alone the guys who just got picked in the 2nd round.

I'm with you in that there's way more than 60 guys good enough to be drafted this year (and last year) but there's just not enough roster spots for everyone if they expanded it to 3 rounds - not with so many decent veteran players out there - and with guys like horford, tucker, lowry, lebron who play until they're 50 lol.

There's already been talks for awhile now about expansion (putting a team back in seattle, putting a team in Vegas, etc.). I think you could definitely add another 2 teams, maybe 4 without the talent being diluted much.
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Post#220 » by playa-hater » Fri Apr 1, 2022 2:42 pm

Hal14 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:Some may disagree but I feel the game of basketball has grown so much especially worldwide that the NBA should go back to having at least 3 rounds of draft. Young players can be sent to the G league but there is just too much talent, That not everyone can get drafted in every 60 picks per year

i would agree - if there were more teams in the league.

As it it right now, though - there's actually several good players who were 1st round picks in 2021 (moses moody, james bouknight, kai jones, jalen johnson, usman garuba, jaden springer, etc) who have spent basically the entire season in g league - let alone the guys who just got picked in the 2nd round.

I'm with you in that there's way more than 60 guys good enough to be drafted this year (and last year) but there's just not enough roster spots for everyone if they expanded it to 3 rounds - not with so many decent veteran players out there - and with guys like horford, tucker, lowry, lebron who play until they're 50 lol.

There's already been talks for awhile now about expansion (putting a team back in seattle, putting a team in Vegas, etc.). I think you could definitely add another 2 teams, maybe 4 without the talent being diluted much.


Not saying any 3rd rd pick would need to make the team right way. that's what the G league is for. But it would allow teams with a good eye for drafting while paying some nice talent, keeping them away from overseas and developing them in a way that would benefit what the team wants/needs.

I do believe my oldest son may/would have been drafted in "rd 3" back in 2010. vs going overseas and hustling all over the place. I like the security and knowledge of having been drafted vs not. Just my opinion.
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