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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1121 » by Pachinko_ » Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:11 am

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ClassicJack wrote:This just came across my YouTube feed. I'll just confidently assume that our Greek friends have already handled this guy.



"I wrote a letter to Adam, the commissioner" LOL

I mean, yeah.



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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1122 » by greekbuck34 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:35 am

Alex the greek that can't even say Giannis name properly without foreign accent. :lol:
Did he have a aussie accent or I'm mistaken?

Giannis is by far the most beloved greek athlete right now. Nobody else is even close. Not even Tsitsipas or Sakkari who are top 5/top 3 tennis players right now. In european basketball all the legends who had big fandom(Spanoulis, Diamantidis) have retired and nobody is good enough to be considered a star right now and there are no greek football stars for like forever.
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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1123 » by CharityStripe34 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 3:11 pm

ClassicJack wrote:This just came across my YouTube feed. I'll just confidently assume that our Greek friends have already handled this guy.



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It's been handled, παιδι μου.

Agree with GreekBuck, this guy sounds like either an Australian or American Greek, probably born there. Nothing wrong with that (I'm Greek, born in the US), but agreed the way he pronounced "Giannis" betrayed him.

To be honest, it sounded like a purposeful troll video from someone. Greek people (most of them) LOVE Gianni. What's worse is thanks to this buffoon it gave Stephen A. some PR cover for pretending to praise Freak when he probably doesn't even mean it.
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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1124 » by Matches Malone » Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:53 pm

Even Embiid was like... idk about that one lmao. So sick of the Giannis slander.

The sad thing is, it's nothing he's doing wrong. It's the city he plays for and all the media bias against small markets. Sorry it snows here, Giannis.

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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1125 » by HKPackFan » Thu Mar 31, 2022 7:17 pm

Matches Malone wrote:Even Embiid was like... idk about that one lmao. So sick of the Giannis slander.

The sad thing is, it's nothing he's doing wrong. It's the city he plays for and all the media bias against small markets. Sorry it snows here, Giannis.

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That's amazing. Embiid literally making the case for Giannis with some media idiot. Saying that's crazy.
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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1126 » by HKPackFan » Thu Mar 31, 2022 7:26 pm

What's Giannis midrange percentage now? I think I heard 43% on LOB? and how does his % rank in the league?
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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1127 » by Matches Malone » Thu Mar 31, 2022 7:29 pm

HKPackFan wrote:What's Giannis midrange percentage now? I think I heard 43% on LOB? and how does his % rank in the league?


Not a ranking, but some notable names he's ahead of this season.

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Post#1128 » by greekbuck34 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 7:34 pm

Even Embiid said "Bruh....."

Embiid and Giannis respect eachother a lot though since last season's all star I think.
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Post#1129 » by emunney » Thu Mar 31, 2022 7:50 pm

My guess is Durant would have a similar response and Jokic would be like "what it means top 3?"
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Post#1130 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:13 pm

Imagine thinking in 2012 that someone like Lebron was in "that next group" behind KD, Kobe, and Dirk. That's how stupid all these people sound when they talk about Giannis like this.
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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1131 » by Chad34 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:08 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Imagine thinking in 2012 that someone like Lebron was in "that next group" behind KD, Kobe, and Dirk. That's how stupid all these people sound when they talk about Giannis like this.

Wasn’t JJ just saying yesterday that Giannis is unguardable? These guys change their opinions every day. The disrespect is real though
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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1132 » by FrieAaron » Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:25 pm

It's crazy watching people bend themselves into a pretzel trying not to admit that Giannis is the best player in the world right now. Two years ago he didn't have enough help and had to leave. Now he has too much help. And as great as Middleton and Jrue were in some big moments during last years playoff run, these people all have to rewatch game 6 again. I have never seen a player will his team to a win like that before. We had absolutely NOTHING going and he just refused to lose. Moments like that and the block are going to go down as all time great plays and performances and these dudes watch it and are like "damn, he might be a top 5 player in the NBA right now"
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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1133 » by Pachinko_ » Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:07 pm

Yeah but the only thing that matters is that the player that WE think is the best in the world is actually on our team.
It just doesnt get any better than that, I legit feel like it's the 90's and we have MJ

And yes I'm 100% certain if Giannis had Pippen and Rodman he would 3-peat but that's ok, I think he has a chance to repeat with Khris and Jrue, I don't wanna be greedy
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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1134 » by Plossum » Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:20 pm

Giannis is always going to suffer from being the freak athlete he is. Guys like Reddick and Harden look at him and are incredibly jelly. I think they genuinely believe that if they had his physical gifts they be able to dominate the NBA too. And so they hold it against him that he's a once in a generation type athlete. There's no recognition of Giannis' incredible basketball skill and IQ. Shaq suffered the same thing. People thought he was all power and bullying while ignoring the beautiful footwork and finesse he had for a guy of his size.

They just can't relate to guys like Shaq and Giannis where as with Embiid, Jokic, KD, Kyrie etc they see a lot of their own game and the traditional basketball skills that they can relate to more. Not that Giannis would care, he'll just keep dunking on fools.
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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1135 » by blazza18 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:41 pm

Redick has been pretty positive on Giannis from what I've seen so a weird shift here.
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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1136 » by Pachinko_ » Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:35 pm

Plossum wrote:Giannis is always going to suffer from being the freak athlete he is. Guys like Reddick and Harden look at him and are incredibly jelly. I think they genuinely believe that if they had his physical gifts they be able to dominate the NBA too.

Yeah. Which is a massive logical fallacy because the gifts that Giannis has have a tremendously high maintenance cost. Giannis is Giannis because he is a workaholic Kobe type maniac. If Harden was Giannis he would be a really tall fat guy who eats nachos and smokes pot on his couch. Harden has absolutely no clue what pain and discipline it took for Giannis to get where he is today.

More technically speaking, Harden probably thinks that if he was as tall as Giannis he would still be able to move and dribble the way he does today, and he would just be taller. But 7 footers just can't do those things, it's physics, it has to do with their high center of mass. Take any 7 footer from any era and ask him to dribble down the court at full speed, then stop on a dime in the paint and reverse to hit a shooter in the corner. I bet ALL of them will either dribble on their foot or fall on their face or run into somebody. 7 footers can't hit the breaks like that or turn like that or dribble low. Only Giannis can, and that is off the charts skill for a guy his size.

People talk about how he dunks and how high he gets, but there's always at least 10 guys in the League at any point in time who can match that. I mean Willie Cauley Stein can probably match that, Javale McGee can probably beat it. But nobody of this size can dribble and break and turn like Giannis, which is really what makes him so unique, and that is 100% skill.

There's been a hundred guys who can shoot and dribble like Harden, he's really not that special.
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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1137 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Apr 1, 2022 12:02 am

Plossum wrote:Giannis is always going to suffer from being the freak athlete he is. Guys like Reddick and Harden look at him and are incredibly jelly. I think they genuinely believe that if they had his physical gifts they be able to dominate the NBA too. And so they hold it against him that he's a once in a generation type athlete. There's no recognition of Giannis' incredible basketball skill and IQ. Shaq suffered the same thing. People thought he was all power and bullying while ignoring the beautiful footwork and finesse he had for a guy of his size.

They just can't relate to guys like Shaq and Giannis where as with Embiid, Jokic, KD, Kyrie etc they see a lot of their own game and the traditional basketball skills that they can relate to more. Not that Giannis would care, he'll just keep dunking on fools.
100%. I believe every NBA wing truly thinks they would be Tim Duncan if they were 7 foot tall so they devalue bigs.

They also always overrate the tough shot maker types.

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Post#1138 » by Matches Malone » Fri Apr 1, 2022 2:03 am

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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1139 » by HKPackFan » Fri Apr 1, 2022 2:21 am

Matches Malone wrote:Even Embiid was like... idk about that one lmao. So sick of the Giannis slander.

The sad thing is, it's nothing he's doing wrong. It's the city he plays for and all the media bias against small markets. Sorry it snows here, Giannis.

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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1140 » by HKPackFan » Fri Apr 1, 2022 2:54 am

So KD and embiid are on a level above Giannis.

And in the same week Giannis dominates embiid and swats away an embiid shot to seal a win, then dominates KD the next game.

Please let me know how those levels are created.
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