The Official Fire Doc Rivers Thread

Murray_17 · Post #201 » by **Murray_17** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:48 pm

The Niang/Tobias line ups are so, so stupid. So many dumb decision on that game

I understand we need the spacing, but playing both together mean one has to guard wings, which is basically suicide.

Yesterday was specially stupid because Danny was playing amazing, flagrant and all.

ProcessDoctor · Post #202 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:16 pm

mjkvol wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:Who would we even replace him with guys? Don't tell me Mike D'Antoni.

We have three potential answers in house in Joerger, Burke, and Cassell. All of them would be massive upgrades, and we'll see Cassell get scooped up by someone and have success like Monty Williams and Udoka have had.

This thread has been dormant for far too long.

I feel like Cassell with MDA back as an assistant would be ideal. Doc is just too rigged IMO.

TTP · Post #203 » by **TTP** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:38 pm

The backup center position has been the most questionable spot in our projected playoff rotation since we made the Harden trade (and more generally since the 2018-19 playoffs).

Reed's performance vs Giannis and Bassey's vs Jokic should have bought each of them some run post trade deadline. Maybe they suck, but there's non-negligible upside that they're better than Millsap or DAJ or playing small with Niang/Harris, all of whom have been given plenty of opportunity and disappointed.

It's just bad business to not do your full due diligence in an area of significant weakness.

It's also worth mentioning that Millsap is actually fouling at a higher rate than Reed for us this year.

stormi · Post #204 » by **stormi** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:51 pm

And of course Chuck Bassey is just flying right now.

Obviously the G-League is not real basketball. The clips in general usually look about as intense as a pick-up game, but Bassey is legit. A consensus 5-star highschool recruit that went to Western Kentucky and left with a decorated resume. He's extremely springy, a legit rim protector AND can shoot the basketball.

Read on Twitter

The defensive rotations with Bassey/Embiid/Reed would be so so nasty. And all three of them have spacer ability. They can interchange, Embiid and Reed have some on the ball skill. All three can step out onto the perimeter defensively with some confidence while the other one rotates in to protect the rim. It'd be Capela/Collins or Mobley/Allen on steroids.

But no, lets run DeAndre Jordan or 37 year old decomposed Paul Millsap in a 1 on 1 against Giannis with two other trash defenders in Harris and Niang as the front court support beside him because you're afraid to do your job and coach up non-established talent.

Get this fraud out of Philadelphia.

Iverson Armband · Post #205 » by **Iverson Armband** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:30 pm

stormi wrote:And of course Chuck Bassey is just flying right now.

Obviously the G-League is not real basketball. The clips in general usually look about as intense as a pick-up game, but Bassey is legit. A consensus 5-star highschool recruit that went to Western Kentucky and left with a decorated resume. He's extremely springy, a legit rim protector AND can shoot the basketball.

Read on Twitter

The defensive rotations with Bassey/Embiid/Reed would be so so nasty. And all three of them have spacer ability. They can interchange, Embiid and Reed have some on the ball skill. All three can step out onto the perimeter defensively with some confidence while the other one rotates in to protect the rim. It'd be Capela/Collins or Mobley/Allen on steroids.

But no, lets run DeAndre Jordan or 37 year old decomposed Paul Millsap in a 1 on 1 against Giannis with two other trash defenders in Harris and Niang as the front court support beside him.

Buuut, buuut Doc “promised” DAJ and Milsap an “opportunity”. Can’t go against his good word.

mjkvol · Post #206 » by **mjkvol** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:39 pm

Iverson Armband wrote:
stormi wrote:And of course Chuck Bassey is just flying right now.

Obviously the G-League is not real basketball. The clips in general usually look about as intense as a pick-up game, but Bassey is legit. A consensus 5-star highschool recruit that went to Western Kentucky and left with a decorated resume. He's extremely springy, a legit rim protector AND can shoot the basketball.

Read on Twitter

The defensive rotations with Bassey/Embiid/Reed would be so so nasty. And all three of them have spacer ability. They can interchange, Embiid and Reed have some on the ball skill. All three can step out onto the perimeter defensively with some confidence while the other one rotates in to protect the rim. It'd be Capela/Collins or Mobley/Allen on steroids.

But no, lets run DeAndre Jordan or 37 year old decomposed Paul Millsap in a 1 on 1 against Giannis with two other trash defenders in Harris and Niang as the front court support beside him.

Buuut, buuut Doc “promised” DAJ and Milsap an “opportunity”. Can’t go against his good word.

After all, he is a "players coach".

If there was ever a bullschiit term, that would be it. Translated, it means someone who can't coach but his guys love because he takes care of them.

elchengue20 · Post #207 » by **elchengue20** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:08 pm

Doc has been a fraud for nearly a decade now.

Get this senile oldman out of my team.

Jailblazers7 · Post #208 » by **Jailblazers7** » Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:40 pm

Interesting tidbits from The Ringer NBA Show about Doc that Wosny Lambre shared about Doc. Starts at around the 32 min mark. Sounds like players and people in the org are losing confidence in Doc.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ringer-nba-show/id1109271715?i=1000555757671

mjkvol · Post #209 » by **mjkvol** » Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:55 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:Interesting tidbits from The Ringer NBA Show about Doc that Wosny Lambre shared about Doc. Starts at around the 32 min mark. Sounds like players and people in the org are losing confidence in Doc.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ringer-nba-show/id1109271715?i=1000555757671

About time. Can you give a brief summary.

Jailblazers7 · Post #210 » by **Jailblazers7** » Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:32 pm

mjkvol wrote:
Jailblazers7 wrote:Interesting tidbits from The Ringer NBA Show about Doc that Wosny Lambre shared about Doc. Starts at around the 32 min mark. Sounds like players and people in the org are losing confidence in Doc.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ringer-nba-show/id1109271715?i=1000555757671

About time. Can you give a brief summary.

Basically, Wos claims to have contacts within the Sixers roster. He’d heard rumblings that was players weren’t happy with Doc’s rotations but chalked that up to players just bitching about play time which is normal.

Then he had dinner with someone “close to the team” when the team was in LA and joked with him that he couldn’t pick the Sixers to go to the finals. That person replied by saying “Neither would I.”

Which he was willing to dismiss but then Embiid complained in the press conference after the Bucks game that he should match Giannis’s minutes. Basically throwing Doc under the bus.

Who knows who his sources are but there seems to be some smoke. I usually listen to the pod because Wos is generally entertaining because he likes to talk **** and throw around hot takes. But I’ve never heard him directly break news about a team like he did on this pod so it caught my attention.

mjkvol · Post #211 » by **mjkvol** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 2:05 am

Jailblazers7 wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
Jailblazers7 wrote:Interesting tidbits from The Ringer NBA Show about Doc that Wosny Lambre shared about Doc. Starts at around the 32 min mark. Sounds like players and people in the org are losing confidence in Doc.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ringer-nba-show/id1109271715?i=1000555757671

About time. Can you give a brief summary.

Basically, Wos claims to have contacts within the Sixers roster. He’d heard rumblings that was players weren’t happy with Doc’s rotations but chalked that up to players just bitching about play time which is normal.

Then he had dinner with someone “close to the team” when the team was in LA and joked with him that he couldn’t pick the Sixers to go to the finals. That person replied by saying “Neither would I.”

Which he was willing to dismiss but then Embiid complained in the press conference after the Bucks game that he should match Giannis’s minutes. Basically throwing Doc under the bus.

Who knows who his sources are but there seems to be some smoke. I usually listen to the pod because Wos is generally entertaining because he likes to talk **** and throw around hot takes. But I’ve never heard him directly break news about a team like he did on this pod so it caught my attention.

Thanks. I'm just glad someone is noticing what we all see night after night.

Embiid P · Post #212 » by **Embiid P** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 4:39 am

Time to can Rivers, and promote Cassell before some other team hires him.

Arsenal · Post #213 » by **Arsenal** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 5:22 am

Get Dan Tony on the phone stat!

76ciology · Post #214 » by **76ciology** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 7:38 am

Not just back-up C, but someone who can play with Embiid.

You’re not gonna solve late game defensive issues with Tobi and Thybulle or Green or Niang.

Teams would just find ways for Embiid to stay out of the paint then they’d score easy baskets in the paint.

Jailblazers7 · Post #215 » by **Jailblazers7** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 1:47 pm

Gotta fire Doc and elevate one of the awesome assistants on the team. He’s not a good coach and he’s started throwing players under the bus blaming last night on Harden.

ankle420breaker · Post #216 » by **ankle420breaker** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 2:45 pm

I've said it before, but when Doc and Philly inevitably part ways it won't be on good terms.

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stormi · Post #217 » by **stormi** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 2:50 pm

oh, he's shameless.

ProcessDoctor · Post #218 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 3:43 pm

Embiid P wrote:Time to can Rivers, and promote Cassell before some other team hires him.

Promote Sam and hire MDA as an assistant.

Still need a few on-court pieces too.

Zumramania · Post #219 » by **Zumramania** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 4:21 pm

Doc is an overconfident motivator with a lack of tactical knowledge and ability to adjust and we fell for it just like Brand fell for Tobias Harris lol. I guess Brand was also the one who made the decision to hire Rivers since he was hired before Morey arrived? One of the main arguments of his proponents is that "players like him" lol. But what players like about the coach is not always congruent with team success.

Mik317 · Post #220 » by **Mik317** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 4:56 pm

The problem is that the team could use an actual tactician type like Nurse...but the main dudes are too far into their careers for that so having an ego guy is probably the way they will go.....most of them aren't tactician types tho.

I get on Doc a lot. His history and his flaws are obvious. Man is stubborn as hell. BUT looking at other teams boards the complaints are always the for other coaches too. The rotations. Not calling a timeout. It is totes the coach's fault that a guy **** up yo. All of the same **** we complained about Brett...we complain about Doc...and other teams complain about their coaches. I point out Nurse because that dude is nuts and does **** that coaches generally only brings out in the playoffs in the regular season....but he also can do that with what was a team of mercenaries and now what is a young squad. It will be very hard for some random dude to come in here and tell Biid or Harden to play a certain way. Kerr is a bad coach IMO...but he manages the egos and stays out of the way. Doc has ironically failed at that part as he seems to always be quick to blame others when the going gets tough...so yeah another ego guy might be needed...but idk man, we have been complaining about the coach since Larry Brown (probably then too but I don't remember lol)....and about the same ****.

Maybe it falls on the players more than we wish to believe? Maybe Reed and Bassey are terrible in practice or don't work as hard. Thus they don't get minutes. I whined about Joe not getting burn but remember when Doc went out of his way to praise the young guys work ethic last year....he didn't mention Joe at all.

So maybe there is more to it than just firing Doc solves everything

Then again dat Dan Burke game tho