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Re: Official Fire Nash thread - Part II 

Post#121 » by TheNetsFan » Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:32 pm

Prokorov wrote:im not sure how marks can keep his job with how this is going. we cant keep throwing away games with awful coaching while we have 2 top 10 players. I dont care that marks is buddies with nash. fire the moron or you can both go kick rocks.

I don't think Marks will fire Nash this offseason, but I expect him to put Nash on the hot seat by bringing in a viable head coaching assistant next to him.
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Re: Official Fire Nash thread - Part II 

Post#122 » by NetsWorld » Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:11 pm

I love how you guys always find a convenient way to blame Nash for everything going on the court. May I remind you folks it was Irving who said we don't need a coach, taking a shot and slight at Nash last year, if any two people bear accountability, it is him and KD. They do whatever they want on the court and it forces Nash's hand to get out of their way. It's KD/Kai that need to realize when a team goes zone, you need to give the COACH a chance to make the adjustment to that gameplan. Why is it that a lay fan can understand ATTACK ATTACK in a zone D set up but the players continue to shoot bricks instead of drive? Let me guess, Nash's passing of the wind is to blame for KD/Kai laying goose eggs as well..... Get real people!
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Re: Official Fire Nash thread - Part II 

Post#123 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:28 pm

KD35Netted wrote:I love how you guys always find a convenient way to blame Nash for everything going on the court. May I remind you folks it was Irving who said we don't need a coach, taking a shot and slight at Nash last year, if any two people bear accountability, it is him and KD. They do whatever they want on the court and it forces Nash's hand to get out of their way. It's KD/Kai that need to realize when a team goes zone, you need to give the COACH a chance to make the adjustment to that gameplan. Why is it that a lay fan can understand ATTACK ATTACK in a zone D set up but the players continue to shoot bricks instead of drive? Let me guess, Nash's passing of the wind is to blame for KD/Kai laying goose eggs as well..... Get real people!



Kd/Kyrie saying they dont need a coach doesnt make it ok to pass up qualified black and female candidates to hire an unqualified moron who is inept at the job.

Kyrie/KD do whatever they want sounds nice only we still dont make adjustments when they dont play. And its not like "beating a zone" its super basic stuff like when to call a timeout, when to challenge or not challenge. Like was Kyrie texting nash from his coach during a home game like "i know they are on a 12-0 run but dont call a timeout!"

Nash's incompetency so egregious that any small anecdotal stuff like that is irrelevant.

When do the excuses for nash start? first it was kyries availability then it was injuries then it was harden being a cancer, then it was not having spacing.shooters.

All those issues are resolved now, and nash is still inept, not making clear easy adjustments, screwing up timeouts/challenges, and not attacking clear opponent weaknesses.

but the biggest of all, Nash doesnt even adjust to the things he points out as issues. for example, in pregame presser nash said "we were in at 4 am, its going to be tough, tired legs" And then he goes with basically an 8 man rotation, kessler players just 3 minutes, JJ and Mills 11. no Cam no Blake and in the end our guys where clearly gassed.

Earlier in the year "we really struggle to score, spacing is an issue" he then starts his worst three point shooter (Duke Jr) while sitting edwards (47% at the time) and going big (Blake and LMA together)

dude has cost us a minimum of 8-10 wins
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Re: Official Fire Nash thread - Part II 

Post#124 » by cam24thomas » Fri Apr 1, 2022 3:14 pm

I wish Pat Riley was still a coach, he'd be perfect.
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Re: Official Fire Nash thread - Part II 

Post#125 » by LOUiS-D » Sat Apr 2, 2022 4:34 am

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this is the cruelest April Fool's tweet of the year. 2 birds 1 stone. Fully guarantee Kess and take JJ away from Nash. JJ is a perfectly fine end of the bench guy, spot minutes, maybe putting in an enforcer or whatever. Can the guy play defense without fouling? He has 4 fewer fouls than Bruce in 500 fewer minutes, and Bruce fouls too much. I thought freaking TLC (his highest watermark was 4.5 fouls per 36min) was a foul magnet. JJ (at 4.9 per 36) makes him look like Chris Paul.
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Re: Official Fire Nash thread - Part II 

Post#126 » by LOUiS-D » Sat Apr 2, 2022 4:39 am

Htf did we go from having 20ppg Cam to icing him on the bench to now DNPs. Feed the hot hand mf. His mid range and floaters were easy money at one point. The kid with no conscience all of sudden has no confidence. Fken Nash man.
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Re: Official Fire Nash thread - Part II 

Post#127 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Apr 2, 2022 11:29 am

LOUiS-D wrote:Htf did we go from having 20ppg Cam to icing him on the bench to now DNPs. Feed the hot hand mf. His mid range and floaters were easy money at one point. The kid with no conscience all of sudden has no confidence. Fken Nash man.


Cam has not been right ever since he hurt his back a few weeks ago.

Kessler Edwards is also a better option tbh. I like Cam but he is a work in progress. He has to become a better 3 point shooter.
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Re: Official Fire Nash thread - Part II 

Post#128 » by Claud » Sat Apr 2, 2022 4:51 pm

I don't see how we can win a chip with this coaching staff. Amateur hour.

I think Nash is a great person and NBA player, but still very green as a coach.

Right now, we are at a disadvantage in terms of coaching against just about every team we face. Says everything you need to know.

I hope Marks/Tsai correct their mistake in the summer.

We need someone who can actually create plays for our stars, has a better in game feel(as a coach), more experience, etc.
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Re: Official Fire Nash thread - Part II 

Post#129 » by Eatgreenz » Sun Apr 3, 2022 2:19 am

He has to go. Right now. Look for his replacement in the offseason
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Re: Official Fire Nash thread - Part II 

Post#130 » by Prokorov » Sun Apr 3, 2022 5:44 am

Nash cost us a title last year. this year he has a 55-60 win talent team as a 10 seed.

Marks needs to be fired. he has destroyed any chance of this team winning a title by hiring nash over more qualified options and then not firing him when it was clear he was a moron.
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Post#131 » by jirrit » Mon Apr 4, 2022 8:17 am

The moment Nash got hired I was happy cause you just felt there was not gonna be a match with Kyrie/KD. Anyway, everything was going the right way for Brooklyn until Kyrie took his talents to you guys. Prok started worshiping and there was only drama, drama & drama.
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Re: Official Fire Nash thread - Part II 

Post#132 » by Prokorov » Mon Apr 4, 2022 1:54 pm

jirrit wrote:The moment Nash got hired I was happy cause you just felt there was not gonna be a match with Kyrie/KD. Anyway, everything was going the right way for Brooklyn until Kyrie took his talents to you guys. Prok started worshiping and there was only drama, drama & drama.


We had the best season in Nets NBA exsistance last year, led by Kyrie, who had his best season as a Net. Where on our way to beating the NBA champions before injuries to Harden/Kyrie hit after embarrassing the Celtics with Kyrie ethering their team/fans/city... Off the court Kyrie has been an outstanding ambassador for the community, donating, setting up non profits and fighting against inequality. he also helped put the spotlight back on Boston as being a super racist place.

Kyrie has had 5 of the top 10 performances in nets history in his short time hear, as well as helping bring Kevin Durant to Brooklyn. Kyrie becoming a net is the best thing to ever happen to the Nets.

Meanwhile, Boston continues to be plagued by racism with a team of Selifsh me-first player that consistently fails to put ego aside to get to the next level. Celtics fans still blame kyrie and are obsessed with him like a dumped girlfriend who cant move on.
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Re: Official Fire Nash thread - Part II 

Post#133 » by CalamityX12 » Mon Apr 4, 2022 3:40 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
LOUiS-D wrote:Htf did we go from having 20ppg Cam to icing him on the bench to now DNPs. Feed the hot hand mf. His mid range and floaters were easy money at one point. The kid with no conscience all of sudden has no confidence. Fken Nash man.


Cam has not been right ever since he hurt his back a few weeks ago.

Kessler Edwards is also a better option tbh. I like Cam but he is a work in progress. He has to become a better 3 point shooter.

Definitely feels like Cam's confidence is gone though..... for a team that needs help up top, we barely play him.... idk if its possible but i would've sent him to the G league for the last few weeks to play and build up his game and importantly confidence....

right now, he's been sabotaged, he can't succeed under this Idiot of a coach and staff.
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Re: Official Fire Nash thread - Part II 

Post#134 » by Prokorov » Mon Apr 4, 2022 3:51 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
LOUiS-D wrote:Htf did we go from having 20ppg Cam to icing him on the bench to now DNPs. Feed the hot hand mf. His mid range and floaters were easy money at one point. The kid with no conscience all of sudden has no confidence. Fken Nash man.


Cam has not been right ever since he hurt his back a few weeks ago.

Kessler Edwards is also a better option tbh. I like Cam but he is a work in progress. He has to become a better 3 point shooter.

Definitely feels like Cam's confidence is gone though..... for a team that needs help up top, we barely play him.... idk if its possible but i would've sent him to the G league for the last few weeks to play and build up his game and importantly confidence....

right now, he's been sabotaged, he can't succeed under this Idiot of a coach and staff.


I said it after but to reiterate i think that knicks game was the worst thing to happen to him. he has taken way to many YOLO step back 30 foot three since then for a player whose biggest issue is trying to minimize the YOLO type shots.

Long term i dont worry about shot selection, but i have a major concern that a scoring wing can have a real contribution for a winning team when he shoots 26% from three (after not being a 3pt threat in college).

51.3 TS% is bad.

Cam is basically a Caris levert type inefficient scorer/shooter only without any of the things that make levert worth putting on the floor (Passing, rebounding, IQ, size)
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Re: Official Fire Nash thread - Part II 

Post#135 » by CalamityX12 » Mon Apr 4, 2022 3:56 pm

Prokorov wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Cam has not been right ever since he hurt his back a few weeks ago.

Kessler Edwards is also a better option tbh. I like Cam but he is a work in progress. He has to become a better 3 point shooter.

Definitely feels like Cam's confidence is gone though..... for a team that needs help up top, we barely play him.... idk if its possible but i would've sent him to the G league for the last few weeks to play and build up his game and importantly confidence....

right now, he's been sabotaged, he can't succeed under this Idiot of a coach and staff.


I said it after but to reiterate i think that knicks game was the worst thing to happen to him. he has taken way to many YOLO step back 30 foot three since then for a player whose biggest issue is trying to minimize the YOLO type shots.

Long term i dont worry about shot selection, but i have a major concern that a scoring wing can have a real contribution for a winning team when he shoots 26% from three (after not being a 3pt threat in college).

51.3 TS% is bad.

Cam is basically a Caris levert type inefficient scorer/shooter only without any of the things that make levert worth putting on the floor (Passing, rebounding, IQ, size)

Not gonna lie, it may sound awful and absurd but IMHO I'm not sure KD is a great role model for him... I don't think KD is the right guy to teach someone like Cam... you(fans) seen his often times tunnel vision... its more basic ISO ball that KD gives him the green light to pursue...

while its good to give him confidence but at the expense of the team dynamic(unintentionally) it's going hold him back.
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Re: Official Fire Nash thread - Part II 

Post#136 » by Prokorov » Mon Apr 4, 2022 4:06 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:Definitely feels like Cam's confidence is gone though..... for a team that needs help up top, we barely play him.... idk if its possible but i would've sent him to the G league for the last few weeks to play and build up his game and importantly confidence....

right now, he's been sabotaged, he can't succeed under this Idiot of a coach and staff.


I said it after but to reiterate i think that knicks game was the worst thing to happen to him. he has taken way to many YOLO step back 30 foot three since then for a player whose biggest issue is trying to minimize the YOLO type shots.

Long term i dont worry about shot selection, but i have a major concern that a scoring wing can have a real contribution for a winning team when he shoots 26% from three (after not being a 3pt threat in college).

51.3 TS% is bad.

Cam is basically a Caris levert type inefficient scorer/shooter only without any of the things that make levert worth putting on the floor (Passing, rebounding, IQ, size)

Not gonna lie, it may sound awful and absurd but IMHO I'm not sure KD is a great role model for him... I don't think KD is the right guy to teach someone like Cam... you(fans) seen his often times tunnel vision... its more basic ISO ball that KD gives him the green light to pursue...

while its good to give him confidence but at the expense of the team dynamic(unintentionally) it's going hold him back.


I agree on role model, but this is also who Cam came in as. a Nick Young type gunner sho is going to take every iso shot available to him
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Re: Official Fire Nash thread - Part II 

Post#137 » by CalamityX12 » Mon Apr 4, 2022 4:36 pm

Prokorov wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
I said it after but to reiterate i think that knicks game was the worst thing to happen to him. he has taken way to many YOLO step back 30 foot three since then for a player whose biggest issue is trying to minimize the YOLO type shots.

Long term i dont worry about shot selection, but i have a major concern that a scoring wing can have a real contribution for a winning team when he shoots 26% from three (after not being a 3pt threat in college).

51.3 TS% is bad.

Cam is basically a Caris levert type inefficient scorer/shooter only without any of the things that make levert worth putting on the floor (Passing, rebounding, IQ, size)

Not gonna lie, it may sound awful and absurd but IMHO I'm not sure KD is a great role model for him... I don't think KD is the right guy to teach someone like Cam... you(fans) seen his often times tunnel vision... its more basic ISO ball that KD gives him the green light to pursue...

while its good to give him confidence but at the expense of the team dynamic(unintentionally) it's going hold him back.


I agree on role model, but this is also who Cam came in as. a Nick Young type gunner sho is going to take every iso shot available to him

then he'll have Nick Young exit lol..... learn better rookie!
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Re: Official Fire Nash thread - Part II 

Post#138 » by TheNetsFan » Mon Apr 4, 2022 6:02 pm

Prokorov wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
I said it after but to reiterate i think that knicks game was the worst thing to happen to him. he has taken way to many YOLO step back 30 foot three since then for a player whose biggest issue is trying to minimize the YOLO type shots.

Long term i dont worry about shot selection, but i have a major concern that a scoring wing can have a real contribution for a winning team when he shoots 26% from three (after not being a 3pt threat in college).

51.3 TS% is bad.

Cam is basically a Caris levert type inefficient scorer/shooter only without any of the things that make levert worth putting on the floor (Passing, rebounding, IQ, size)

Not gonna lie, it may sound awful and absurd but IMHO I'm not sure KD is a great role model for him... I don't think KD is the right guy to teach someone like Cam... you(fans) seen his often times tunnel vision... its more basic ISO ball that KD gives him the green light to pursue...

while its good to give him confidence but at the expense of the team dynamic(unintentionally) it's going hold him back.


I agree on role model, but this is also who Cam came in as. a Nick Young type gunner sho is going to take every iso shot available to him

Those YOLO step back 3s look very much like a Harden impersonation. I've seen a lot of Harden-style movement in his game later in the season. Either way, he should be groomed to play in a role within a system. We'd need a system to accomplish that though. We also need the stars to buy into a system, realizing that it's for the role players rather than the stars. You need to keep the role players involved and in check. 48 minutes of iso-ball does the opposite.
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Re: Official Fire Nash thread - Part II 

Post#139 » by Prokorov » Mon Apr 4, 2022 6:23 pm

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CalamityX12 wrote:Not gonna lie, it may sound awful and absurd but IMHO I'm not sure KD is a great role model for him... I don't think KD is the right guy to teach someone like Cam... you(fans) seen his often times tunnel vision... its more basic ISO ball that KD gives him the green light to pursue...

while its good to give him confidence but at the expense of the team dynamic(unintentionally) it's going hold him back.


I agree on role model, but this is also who Cam came in as. a Nick Young type gunner sho is going to take every iso shot available to him

Those YOLO step back 3s look very much like a Harden impersonation. I've seen a lot of Harden-style movement in his game later in the season. Either way, he should be groomed to play in a role within a system. We'd need a system to accomplish that though. We also need the stars to buy into a system, realizing that it's for the role players rather than the stars. You need to keep the role players involved and in check. 48 minutes of iso-ball does the opposite.


Yeah, and as much as Kyrie/KD "dont need a coach" I doubt that they would really have a ton of push back against some basic offensive system. Hell you could even build an iso heavy system that gets more out of everyone else.

Right now its all 1-4 spread out or horns with dribble handoffs. we could go iso and run the curry/harris/mills types around a million off ball screens on the other side. we make it easy when we just have 3 guys standing still

its not like we have to ask KD to play in the triangle or some hoosiers 4 passes before a shot nonsense
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Re: Official Fire Nash thread - Part II 

Post#140 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Apr 4, 2022 6:43 pm

My biggest issue with Nash is still his idiotic defensive schemes.

Why does he insist on switching everything when we KNOW it doesn't work? And it hasn't worked all season?

All we do anymore is overhelp and get bad mismatches. Why is he so stuck on this stupid defense which gives up 130 a night?

Is he intentionally trying to tank the season? Or is he just an idiot?

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