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Re: Big Man Offseason Wishlist 

Post#21 » by Apz » Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:04 am

Michaellam1987 wrote:N.Claxton may be the best target, considering his mobily on defense, young age and price range


Feels like a "the grass is always greener.." kinda get. Its jusr days since nets fans considered powell an upgrade at center over him in 1 of the trade threads. He is not as bad as moses, but prefer actually getring a big body with bbiq
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Post#22 » by Apz » Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:10 am

Maverick41 wrote:
Apz wrote:Dont think thats how tpe works tho

I'm not 100% if it can be flipped again but cancel that idea anyway since I just noticed our TPE expires 07/31/22 just a few days before FA starts.


Pretty sure a tpe cany generate a tpe. U dont actually trade a tpe, the tpe is more like absorbing the counter salary. If it actually counted as a "physical" thing teams would need to include tpes towards the cap. Atleast thats how i always seen and understood it. Its like getting consumed on use
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Post#23 » by matt6715 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 3:14 pm

Capela is the target for me. If the Hawks dont make it past the play-in they will definitely shake up the roster and maybe we can scoop Capela in a multi-team trade.
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Post#24 » by Darren » Fri Apr 1, 2022 5:07 am

I think the Mavs should prioritize Hartenstein. Afterall, no much FA are available. So is the cap space. If there's just a MLE to offer, I'd rather have Hartenstein/Howard. Draft a rookie big for long-term. The Mavs only have Bertans on long-term contract upfront. Despite a strong showing by Powell, I don't think this kind of production can keep up in 30s. I don't think it is wise to get 11M per for Powell again. Kleber shows sign of regress in quickness. Chriss do not show anything steady.

To me, I'd trade up for Mark William and sign Hartenstein. Train William into Powell with defense. Train Hartenstein as Maxi.
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Post#25 » by Maverick41 » Fri Apr 1, 2022 5:59 am

I like Hartenstein and have mentioned him in other threads as someone to target. My only concern is that we can only offer 6 mil/yr and I feel like the Clips will pay up to go all in in 2023.

Now if the market somehow dries up for him and Clips don't bring him back, by all means, we should. He has some talent.
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Post#26 » by dirkdiggler4177 » Fri Apr 1, 2022 7:04 pm

I would really like Mo Bamba or Myles Turner. There is something about guys who can pick and pop, but also roll to the basket. My only problem with them is that they love the 3 pointer way to much. But then again, it would open up the floor playing something like this:
Mo Bamba
Dorian
Luka
Spencer
Brunson

Just think how hard it would be to stop that team on offense. You either get a open 3 pointer or no cloging of the lane.
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Post#28 » by HMFFL » Sat Apr 2, 2022 12:23 am

41Dirk41 wrote:I prefer Capela, his cost could be low because Hawks are imploding too.
One of the main issues with Atlanta is they don't involve Capela enough in the offense. They want him to do the dirty work, while he's vocally said he wants the ball note on offense, but Atlanta resorts to chucking the ball.

Capela would be a nice addition but Atlanta will focus on moving John Collins and not CC.

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Post#29 » by Darren » Sat Apr 2, 2022 6:17 am

Walker Kessler is supposed to be available for Mavs pick. But are the Mavs interested in the 7-1 big with 7-5 wingspan? Kessler is average athlete. But the number is identical to Mark Williams. Over 30 PER. Per 36 mins, 16 Points, 11 rebounds, 6 blocks. Do not look very quick. I wonder if Kessler has enough athleticism, intelligence and work ethics to make things up. If the Mavs were to trade down, I think the Mavs may consider Kessler. But will the Mavs willing to play at slower pace to accomodate the big?
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Post#30 » by Apz » Sat Apr 2, 2022 1:22 pm

What u mean play at slower pace? Isnt we already playing near top if not slowest in league?
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Post#31 » by Mike lorenzo » Sat Apr 2, 2022 10:40 pm

unreal..Ayton/Siakam
Real...Poelt/Claxton
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Post#32 » by 41Dirk41 » Sun Apr 3, 2022 7:04 am

I'm pretty sure that Nico will throw away the pick, Green and filler for a starting C. This is our big hole.
Powell from the bench 10/15 minutes is good.

Gobert is the first choice obviously but Capela or Turner are good too.

We also need a 2 way wing but we haven't the assets... Nico has to be creative.
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Post#33 » by arkuo » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:01 am

Mike lorenzo wrote:unreal..Ayton/Siakam
Real...Poelt/Claxton



You can add Richaun Holmes to the real list. Sacramento shut him down for the season for personal issues. Could be on his way out now that the spacing is bad between him and Sabonis.
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Post#34 » by arkuo » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:02 am

41Dirk41 wrote:I'm pretty sure that Nico will throw away the pick, Green and filler for a starting C. This is our big hole.
Powell from the bench 10/15 minutes is good.

Gobert is the first choice obviously but Capela or Turner are good too.

We also need a 2 way wing but we haven't the assets... Nico has to be creative.



Nico's choice for a center acquisition this summer will further reveal his plans. If he goes all in on Gobert or a stop gap center like Claxton to keep the door open for Jokic in 2023. We will know soon enough.
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Post#35 » by Mike lorenzo » Sun Apr 3, 2022 12:54 pm

arkuo wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:I'm pretty sure that Nico will throw away the pick, Green and filler for a starting C. This is our big hole.
Powell from the bench 10/15 minutes is good.

Gobert is the first choice obviously but Capela or Turner are good too.

We also need a 2 way wing but we haven't the assets... Nico has to be creative.



Nico's choice for a center acquisition this summer will further reveal his plans. If he goes all in on Gobert or a stop gap center like Claxton to keep the door open for Jokic in 2023. We will know soon enough.
I think Jokic to Mavs in 23 in a bigger chimera than Giannis's.. We Europeans like to beat our friends... I also think that in general there is a difference (this is my perception). Europeans have a more collective feeling, the Group is number 1, we must honor the shirt, be faithful ....The Americans is more like personal success, a career full of individual successes.... If the Mavs are competitive, Luka will spend his entire career in Dallas. just like I think they will do Jokic / Giannis etc ... Plus unfortunately Denver healthy, has a real chance to win
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Post#36 » by Mike lorenzo » Sun Apr 3, 2022 1:00 pm

I would love Rudy in Dallas...but gutting the roster and assets for a 29-year-old center seems like a risk we don't need to take, we're not at that point... What would a Turner/Warren(ST) combo cost us? We've talked a lot about Turner...but what about Warren...? The guy is under the radar, after 2 years injured, but... he was playing like an allstar, at the top as a scorer and steals... he's already recovered and has the whole offseason to get into shape
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Post#37 » by ejs78 » Sun Apr 3, 2022 2:58 pm

arkuo wrote:
Mike lorenzo wrote:unreal..Ayton/Siakam
Real...Poelt/Claxton



You can add Richaun Holmes to the real list. Sacramento shut him down for the season for personal issues. Could be on his way out now that the spacing is bad between him and Sabonis.
Not sure you can put Holmes on the list based off of his issues combined with the past issues of Kidd/Mavs.

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Re: Big Man Offseason Wishlist 

Post#38 » by Mr B » Sun Apr 3, 2022 4:01 pm

Mike lorenzo wrote:
arkuo wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:I'm pretty sure that Nico will throw away the pick, Green and filler for a starting C. This is our big hole.
Powell from the bench 10/15 minutes is good.

Gobert is the first choice obviously but Capela or Turner are good too.

We also need a 2 way wing but we haven't the assets... Nico has to be creative.



Nico's choice for a center acquisition this summer will further reveal his plans. If he goes all in on Gobert or a stop gap center like Claxton to keep the door open for Jokic in 2023. We will know soon enough.
I think Jokic to Mavs in 23 in a bigger chimera than Giannis's.. We Europeans like to beat our friends... I also think that in general there is a difference (this is my perception). Europeans have a more collective feeling, the Group is number 1, we must honor the shirt, be faithful ....The Americans is more like personal success, a career full of individual successes.... If the Mavs are competitive, Luka will spend his entire career in Dallas. just like I think they will do Jokic / Giannis etc ... Plus unfortunately Denver healthy, has a real chance to win

More than likely you are correct. I’m not European but I do see that trait in European born basketball players. With that said even if there is a small chance Jokic would agree to leave Denver the Mavs would be smart to at least be able to make an offer to him.

In a year and half we have no idea how MPJ’s back is going to hold up. Also will Murray be the same player? There’s a good chance that after the ‘23 season both MPJ and Murray will both be out again (well at least Porter). With 2 injured players eating up about 2/3 of your cap for the next 5 years the future is really not that bright in Denver. This doesn’t mean he will automatically sign with Dallas if he leaves Denver but it would be smart for the Mavs to at least make an offer.
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Post#39 » by Mr B » Sun Apr 3, 2022 4:04 pm

Mike lorenzo wrote:I would love Rudy in Dallas...but gutting the roster and assets for a 29-year-old center seems like a risk we don't need to take, we're not at that point... What would a Turner/Warren(ST) combo cost us? We've talked a lot about Turner...but what about Warren...? The guy is under the radar, after 2 years injured, but... he was playing like an allstar, at the top as a scorer and steals... he's already recovered and has the whole offseason to get into shape

If the Mavs add Gobert to a core of Luka, Brunson, Dinwiddie, DFS, and Bullock they will be contenders. The roster would be gutted but the core would be much stronger and I believe they would have a very quick turnaround back to contender status.
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Post#40 » by Archx » Sun Apr 3, 2022 4:12 pm

Gobert is absolutely everything Mavs are missing right now. Literally a DPY rim protector, great at defending PnR and above the rim player with long arms. What more can you possibly want? If Luka can make Powell look at times like an all star, imagine Gobert next to him. And i even forgot to mention another Mavs weakness, rebounds, and he's an amazing rebounder. At 29yo, that's not even that old for a center.

It just comes down to if Mavs are willing to trade HOF laser Bertans and his generous contract :-?

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