Sunday 4/3 Game Thread

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Re: Sunday 4/3 Game Thread 

Post#201 » by The High Cyde » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:26 pm

BigDan245 wrote:THT is such a scrub...Reaves should be ahead of him.

They're desperately trying to showcase him for potential trades. Reaves is here to stay.
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Re: Sunday 4/3 Game Thread 

Post#202 » by Archx » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:27 pm

sp6r=underrated wrote:
Apz wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:I love Luka but some of his fans are weird as hell -

Giannis goes 44-14 and 6 and 40-14 and 6 to beat Brooklyn and 76rs and if giannis loses to Dallas in a close game

after Dallas loses by 30 to Washington two nights before...

Luka is better than Giannis and it’s not close lol

and Luka mvp And Luka best ever and Giannis sucks all on one game....lol
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Well, we already know where on the scale your bbiq is. But please, its strange that kd, giannis, jokic, embiid and ja somehow have been at best the 2nd best player on the floor when they play mavs in every game this season. And only jokic have a worse cast of those teams. Oh and 1 win off heat that is top of eastern and ahead of bucks 76rs celtics, and u cant say those stars got better supporting casts then mavs, atleast if u listen to espn and such. Which u obviously do, since u think there is mvp votes before u votes for mvp?

But sure. Trade mavs 2-15 to celtics and celtics 2-15 to mavs, and mavs win 70 and tatum probably doesnt make the playin.


Luka is a great player but you really need to look at plus minus stats as well as the box score when evaluatitng players. Tatum is off the charts good and Doncic is relatively disappointing.


+/- without any context is one of the most idiotic stats to judge someones impact on the team.
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Re: Sunday 4/3 Game Thread 

Post#203 » by Wolfgang630 » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:28 pm

Why is Aaron Gordon trying to go 1 on 1
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Re: Sunday 4/3 Game Thread 

Post#204 » by CobraCommander » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:29 pm

Apz wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:I love Luka but some of his fans are weird as hell -

Giannis goes 44-14 and 6 and 40-14 and 6 to beat Brooklyn and 76rs and if giannis loses to Dallas in a close game

after Dallas loses by 30 to Washington two nights before...

Luka is better than Giannis and it’s not close lol

and Luka mvp And Luka best ever and Giannis sucks all on one game....lol
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Well, we already know where on the scale your bbiq is. But please, its strange that kd, giannis, jokic, embiid and ja somehow have been at best the 2nd best player on the floor when they play mavs in every game this season. And only jokic have a worse cast of those teams. Oh and 1 win off heat that is top of eastern and ahead of bucks 76rs celtics, and u cant say those stars got better supporting casts then mavs, atleast if u listen to espn and such. Which u obviously do, since u think there is mvp votes before u votes for mvp?

But sure. Trade mavs 2-15 to celtics and celtics 2-15 to mavs, and mavs win 70 and tatum probably doesnt make the playin.


Naw I’m just a fan- no bbiq needed for that right?

Luka gotta win one of the things Giannis has before he on his level… and pick one.. mvp, dpoy, ring, finals mvp… I’ll be here for that -
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Re: Sunday 4/3 Game Thread 

Post#205 » by Gimli » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:30 pm

CobraCommander wrote:
Gimli wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:I love Luka but some of his fans are weird as hell -

Giannis goes 44-14 and 6 and 40-14 and 6 to beat Brooklyn and 76rs and if giannis loses to Dallas in a close game

after Dallas loses by 30 to Washington two nights before...

Luka is better than Giannis and it’s not close lol

and Luka mvp And Luka best ever and Giannis sucks all on one game....lol
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Doncic has been better officially than Giannis since last year's playoffs. There is no one in the league that could play that way against the Clippers with so little help. If Kawhi and co. couldn't stop him, than no one can. And that was just about the best possible defense for Doncic. I mean Kawhi just might be the best perimeter defender of all time.

And if you say, yeah but Giannis is 2x DPOY, yeah I've seen him guard Luka tonight. He did one hell of a job. Step back 3 by Luka and also blow by him and then found 2 easy open threes or smth like that. It was like he was guarded by a chair. What does it matter if Giannis is 2x DPOY, if he can't guard him? Or if the entire Bucks defense can't guard him? It was the same action all the time, all day. Doncic screen and then Doncic gets a good shot or his teammates. No other teammates aside Powell involved, and all Powell needed to do was to run to the basket. Unguardable play, and Doncic doesn't need anyone to perfrom this play, only Powell has to do the most basic job.

Even Jokic struggled against Lebron + Davis + Howard liineup in the playoffs and last year he lost against the Suns without a fight. Doncic has so far never failed to deliver. No black spots in his career.

Ok so Luka been better than Giannis since last year… Even the most die hard luka fan hasn’t said that… I can’t and won’t touch that - have a good day..


Because you don't have any argument, that's why. Completely demolished by Luka today, but no, it's impossible for Luka to be better. Just "goodbye". What a good argument. Calling people idiots and then you don't want to respond.

Luka has been beating everyone all the time. Only Jokic managed to play on the same level against him 1 vs 1 team wise, but Jokic has 2 black spots in his career, Doncic has none.

I don't care what other fans say, I don't care about other Mavs fans. Giannis was very suspect before the bubble as well, but everyone thought he was what top3 or smth like that. Until he was exposed by Miami. Well I didn't think Giannis was so good back then. I don't need to see a proof screaming before my eyes, before I can see that something is true.

Besides, you also agree that the Mavs will go to the finals, you've said it yourself. If you put Giannis, do you think they beat the Suns? Absolutely not. Do you think Giannis fits nicels in the Mavs? Yes you do. So the only reason why you think Mavs will go to the finals is because Doncic >> Giannis. Only you can't formulate it, now I've helped you...

You'll see come playoff time... Doncic will destroy any opponest and any defense thrown at him. I just hope you'll have enough balls to admit you were wrong and it was obvious from the moon that Doncic is better.

Goodbye to you aswell, I know I can't except any good rationale from you anyway.
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Re: Sunday 4/3 Game Thread 

Post#206 » by sp6r=underrated » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:30 pm

Archx wrote:
sp6r=underrated wrote:
Apz wrote:
Well, we already know where on the scale your bbiq is. But please, its strange that kd, giannis, jokic, embiid and ja somehow have been at best the 2nd best player on the floor when they play mavs in every game this season. And only jokic have a worse cast of those teams. Oh and 1 win off heat that is top of eastern and ahead of bucks 76rs celtics, and u cant say those stars got better supporting casts then mavs, atleast if u listen to espn and such. Which u obviously do, since u think there is mvp votes before u votes for mvp?

But sure. Trade mavs 2-15 to celtics and celtics 2-15 to mavs, and mavs win 70 and tatum probably doesnt make the playin.


Luka is a great player but you really need to look at plus minus stats as well as the box score when evaluatitng players. Tatum is off the charts good and Doncic is relatively disappointing.


+/- without any context is one of the most idiotic stats to judge someones impact on the team.


The advanced plus/minus stats that includes attempts to adjust for teammate quality also show Tatum having an enormous impact.

I don't rank players simply based on on/off but it is valuable data. And in this case it is pointing in the direction that Tatum is a good deal better than you give him credit for
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Re: Sunday 4/3 Game Thread 

Post#207 » by CobraCommander » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:32 pm

sp6r=underrated wrote:
Apz wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:I love Luka but some of his fans are weird as hell -

Giannis goes 44-14 and 6 and 40-14 and 6 to beat Brooklyn and 76rs and if giannis loses to Dallas in a close game

after Dallas loses by 30 to Washington two nights before...

Luka is better than Giannis and it’s not close lol

and Luka mvp And Luka best ever and Giannis sucks all on one game....lol
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Y’all plus ultra


Well, we already know where on the scale your bbiq is. But please, its strange that kd, giannis, jokic, embiid and ja somehow have been at best the 2nd best player on the floor when they play mavs in every game this season. And only jokic have a worse cast of those teams. Oh and 1 win off heat that is top of eastern and ahead of bucks 76rs celtics, and u cant say those stars got better supporting casts then mavs, atleast if u listen to espn and such. Which u obviously do, since u think there is mvp votes before u votes for mvp?

But sure. Trade mavs 2-15 to celtics and celtics 2-15 to mavs, and mavs win 70 and tatum probably doesnt make the playin.


Luka is a great player but you really need to look at plus minus stats as well as the box score when evaluatitng players. Tatum is off the charts good and Doncic is relatively disappointing.


Luka fans in a hurry - they don’t even watch other games apparently - Trae and KD and Trae and Giannis all had better games this weekend than Luka - but forget that- Luka best ever because of THIS game.
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Post#208 » by Wolfgang630 » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:32 pm

Jesus come on Denver
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Post#209 » by AleksandarN » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:33 pm

What's wrong with Jokic's 3pt shooting?
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Post#210 » by Goomba3666 » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:34 pm

AD is super talented. It's good to see him on the court.
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Re: Sunday 4/3 Game Thread 

Post#211 » by CobraCommander » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:36 pm

Gimli wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:
Gimli wrote:

Doncic has been better officially than Giannis since last year's playoffs. There is no one in the league that could play that way against the Clippers with so little help. If Kawhi and co. couldn't stop him, than no one can. And that was just about the best possible defense for Doncic. I mean Kawhi just might be the best perimeter defender of all time.

And if you say, yeah but Giannis is 2x DPOY, yeah I've seen him guard Luka tonight. He did one hell of a job. Step back 3 by Luka and also blow by him and then found 2 easy open threes or smth like that. It was like he was guarded by a chair. What does it matter if Giannis is 2x DPOY, if he can't guard him? Or if the entire Bucks defense can't guard him? It was the same action all the time, all day. Doncic screen and then Doncic gets a good shot or his teammates. No other teammates aside Powell involved, and all Powell needed to do was to run to the basket. Unguardable play, and Doncic doesn't need anyone to perfrom this play, only Powell has to do the most basic job.

Even Jokic struggled against Lebron + Davis + Howard liineup in the playoffs and last year he lost against the Suns without a fight. Doncic has so far never failed to deliver. No black spots in his career.

Ok so Luka been better than Giannis since last year… Even the most die hard luka fan hasn’t said that… I can’t and won’t touch that - have a good day..


Because you don't have any argument, that's why. Completely demolished by Luka today, but no, it's impossible for Luka to be better. Just "goodbye". What a good argument. Calling people idiots and then you don't want to respond.

Luka has been beating everyone all the time. Only Jokic managed to play on the same level against him 1 vs 1 team wise, but Jokic has 2 black spots in his career, Doncic has none.

I don't care what other fans say, I don't care about other Mavs fans. Giannis was very suspect before the bubble as well, but everyone thought he was what top3 or smth like that. Until he was exposed by Miami. Well I didn't think Giannis was so good back then. I don't need to see a proof screaming before my eyes, before I can see that something is true.

Besides, you also agree that the Mavs will go to the finals, you've said it yourself. If you put Giannis, do you think they beat the Suns? Absolutely not. Do you think Giannis fits nicels in the Mavs? Yes you do. So the only reason why you think Mavs will go to the finals is because Doncic >> Giannis. Only you can't formulate it, now I've helped you...

You'll see come playoff time... Doncic will destroy any opponest and any defense thrown at him. I just hope you'll have enough balls to admit you were wrong and it was obvious from the moon that Doncic is better.

Goodbye to you aswell, I know I can't except any good rationale from you anyway.

Naw it’s just not a real arguement at this point-

Luka great- Giannis great- I think Giannis better but honestly Luka could have a better game any day… it’s not a fight- if you on RealGM you know I bet the mavs go to finals this year because Luka always plays best in big games- today was a big game and Luka came through.

You want it to be Luka vs Giannis for real… and I don’t think that’s fair considering Giannis has accomplished so much more than Luka and is going to get more mvp votes than Luka this year.

If you think Luka is better than Giannis this year… I want to know by what measure… and why the mvp voters not gonna see it that way?
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Post#212 » by Tracymcgoaty » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:37 pm

I legit did not think we would even compete.

AD is a **** beast man.

**** Injuries to hell.
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Re: Sunday 4/3 Game Thread 

Post#213 » by Gimli » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:38 pm

CobraCommander wrote:
sp6r=underrated wrote:
Apz wrote:
Well, we already know where on the scale your bbiq is. But please, its strange that kd, giannis, jokic, embiid and ja somehow have been at best the 2nd best player on the floor when they play mavs in every game this season. And only jokic have a worse cast of those teams. Oh and 1 win off heat that is top of eastern and ahead of bucks 76rs celtics, and u cant say those stars got better supporting casts then mavs, atleast if u listen to espn and such. Which u obviously do, since u think there is mvp votes before u votes for mvp?

But sure. Trade mavs 2-15 to celtics and celtics 2-15 to mavs, and mavs win 70 and tatum probably doesnt make the playin.


Luka is a great player but you really need to look at plus minus stats as well as the box score when evaluatitng players. Tatum is off the charts good and Doncic is relatively disappointing.


Luka fans in a hurry - they don’t even watch other games apparently - Trae and KD and Trae and Giannis all had better games this weekend than Luka - but forget that- Luka best ever because of THIS game.


Aye, saying you don't want to reponds to me, but you keep calling mavs fans idiots.

That's the problem you see. You keep bringing irrelavant stuff into it. Show me a game against Doncic when he was outplayed. Don't tell me what Trae did on the weekend. Show me what he did vs Doncic. And I'll tell you smth, he didn't do anything against him. I don't care about Giannis dropping 50 in the finals against the Suns, they aren't a good defensive team anyway.

But you can bring some good series if you want. Like how Giannis improved versus Miami next year, like how Jokic played very well in the bubble against the clippers... Though it's subjective what a good team is. I just don't think that CP3 + Booker + Crowder is a good enough defense. Certainly not on the level of Kawhi + PG13 + Batum / Mann / Beverly... And certainly not on the level of AD +Lebron + Howard.
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Re: Sunday 4/3 Game Thread 

Post#214 » by CobraCommander » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:38 pm

Goomba3666 wrote:AD is super talented. It's good to see him on the court.

AD is so complicated - is it just his health or would he be a mvp canidate
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Post#215 » by Wolfgang630 » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:40 pm

Bones had something to say to the Lakers bench
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Post#216 » by dygaction » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:41 pm

CobraCommander wrote:
sp6r=underrated wrote:
Apz wrote:
Well, we already know where on the scale your bbiq is. But please, its strange that kd, giannis, jokic, embiid and ja somehow have been at best the 2nd best player on the floor when they play mavs in every game this season. And only jokic have a worse cast of those teams. Oh and 1 win off heat that is top of eastern and ahead of bucks 76rs celtics, and u cant say those stars got better supporting casts then mavs, atleast if u listen to espn and such. Which u obviously do, since u think there is mvp votes before u votes for mvp?

But sure. Trade mavs 2-15 to celtics and celtics 2-15 to mavs, and mavs win 70 and tatum probably doesnt make the playin.


Luka is a great player but you really need to look at plus minus stats as well as the box score when evaluatitng players. Tatum is off the charts good and Doncic is relatively disappointing.


Luka fans in a hurry - they don’t even watch other games apparently - Trae and KD and Trae and Giannis all had better games this weekend than Luka - but forget that- Luka best ever because of THIS game.


There you go…
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Re: Sunday 4/3 Game Thread 

Post#217 » by Archx » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:42 pm

sp6r=underrated wrote:
Archx wrote:
sp6r=underrated wrote:
Luka is a great player but you really need to look at plus minus stats as well as the box score when evaluatitng players. Tatum is off the charts good and Doncic is relatively disappointing.


+/- without any context is one of the most idiotic stats to judge someones impact on the team.


The advanced plus/minus stats that includes attempts to adjust for teammate quality also show Tatum having an enormous impact.

I don't rank players simply based on on/off but it is valuable data. And in this case it is pointing in the direction that Tatum is a good deal better than you give him credit for


I didn't argue anything about Tatum, i'm just pointing out +/- can be pretty meaningless.
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Post#218 » by Exp0sed » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:42 pm

Tracymcgoaty wrote:I legit did not think we would even compete.

AD is a **** beast man.

**** Injuries to hell.


That's cuz a lot of folks don't realize how bad this Nuggets team actually is. I mean missing 35 YO Jeff Green actually hurts them. that's how bad they are :P

Jokic needs to be superhuman for the Nuggets to compete, without him these Nuggets are battling with ORL and OKC.

When he's not superhuman (like today thus far) - any team can compete with them, even these Lakers haha
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Post#219 » by Freighttrain » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:42 pm

I'm a LeBron fan, but people who wear sunglasses indoors are.. Well, let's just put it lightly as "special".
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Post#220 » by Goomba3666 » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:43 pm

CobraCommander wrote:
Goomba3666 wrote:AD is super talented. It's good to see him on the court.

AD is so complicated - is it just his health or would he be a mvp canidate


I think his career would've been different if New Orleans was actually in the Eastern Conference.

His team kept running into the Warriors. Lol

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