Official Spring Training 2022 thread.

GoRapstheoriginal · Post #161 » by **GoRapstheoriginal** » Sun Apr 3, 2022 10:20 pm

JAYS WIN! JAYS WIN! WOOHOo! HOORAY!

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Post #162 » by **Cyrus** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 12:05 am

Didn't know Reese McGuire was #14 pick overall pick in 2013.

I guess this was the most we could have gotten for McGuire, but not sure sending him down to Triple A, when we need Monero to get all Catching/at bats in Triple A.

Would have just rather tried to get some random lottery ticket prospect in like A ball.

polo007 · Post #163 » by **polo007** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 12:09 am

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vaff87 · Post #165 » by **vaff87** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 12:23 am

Cyrus wrote:Didn't know Reese McGuire was #14 pick overall pick in 2013.

I guess this was the most we could have gotten for McGuire, but not sure sending him down to Triple A, when we need Monero to get all Catching/at bats in Triple A.

Would have just rather tried to get some random lottery ticket prospect in like A ball.

He’s not going to be taking at bats/catching opportunities away from Moreno. Moreno will get all the opportunities he needs. But when he needs an off day, like all catchers, we have a better option than before. And if Kirk or Jansen get injured for a short period before they’re ready to call Moreno up, we have someone adequate we can call up.

polo007 · Post #166 » by **polo007** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 2:04 am

After Guerrero Jr. flashes speed, Blue Jays deal for new kind of catcher - Sportsnet.ca

Alejandro Kirk’s defensive importance to the Blue Jays only grows after the departure of McGuire, who had worked with Toronto’s pitchers for the last four seasons. Greg Bird still seems well-positioned to claim the team’s last open 40-man spot and earn a bench role. And with respect to the relievers fighting for the remaining bullpen spots, those decisions won’t fundamentally alter the shape of this team.

By now, we know what the Toronto Blue Jays look like. The more interesting questions revolve around how the players will be deployed.

On that front, the trade of McGuire for Collins marks a subtle but significant shift. While both are 27-year-old catchers who hit from the left side, their profiles as players are very different. Where McGuire’s biggest strength is his glove, the Blue Jays are most intrigued by Collins’ bat. His experience behind the plate is an asset, of course, but he may end up being used more as a designated hitter or pinch hitter.

While Collins has a lifetime OPS of just .645, some of his underlying numbers suggest he has greater offensive upside. For his career, he has a barrel rate of 11.4 per cent, an average exit velocity of 91.1 m.p.h. and a max exit velocity of 109.9 m.p.h. — all higher than McGuire's. On a team that tilts heavily to the right, his left-handed bat has the chance to prove useful. If not, the acquisition cost was modest for an organization that’s already deep in catching.

Defensively speaking, some in the industry view Collins as below-average. But as Kirk has continued developing behind the plate, he became a more important part of the Blue Jays’ defensive plans. With one notable exception, the Blue Jays have been sure to pair Kirk with all of their pitchers this spring in an attempt to build familiarity.

"That's why we like everybody catching everybody," manager Charlie Montoyo said Sunday morning, before the trade had been completed. "That’s what really happened this spring and everybody got every pitcher except (Danny) Jansen, who was the only one who got (Hyun-Jin) Ryu."

The Blue Jays gained some flexibility with the trade: Collins has minor-league options remaining while McGuire does not. While Collins has a chance to break camp with the team, rosters will shrink from 28 to 26 on May 1. They’ll have the flexibility to send Collins to the minors if that’s useful in the weeks ahead.

SharoneWright · Post #167 » by **SharoneWright** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 7:03 am

I'm all aboard the Cimber train. Hesitant about the Gaus train... And the Gaus price.

Hottie McShotty · Post #168 » by **Hottie McShotty** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 10:48 am

SharoneWright wrote:I'm all aboard the Cimber train. Hesitant about the Gaus train... And the Gaus price.

I haven's seen Gaus pitch at all during spring training. How has he looked so far?

SharoneWright · Post #169 » by **SharoneWright** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 2:26 pm

Hottie McShotty wrote:
SharoneWright wrote:I'm all aboard the Cimber train. Hesitant about the Gaus train... And the Gaus price.

I haven's seen Gaus pitch at all during spring training. How has he looked so far?

I think he’s been OK. I haven’t seen much either. Just a feeling. Hope I’m wrong :-)

polo007 · Post #170 » by **polo007** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 4:28 pm

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dagger · Post #171 » by **dagger** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 4:33 pm

To the surprise of many, Greg Bird has been released by the Jays.

Post #172 » by **Cyrus** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 4:58 pm

Weird Bird was having a decent spring trainning, and was looking to be that guy of bench? Wonder why we just let him go?

Randle McMurphy · Post #173 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 5:22 pm

Cyrus wrote:Weird Bird was having a decent spring trainning, and was looking to be that guy of bench? Wonder why we just let him go?

He's been a scrub his entire career. 10 meaningless games of not being a scrub didn't change that.

polo007 · Post #174 » by **polo007** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 5:35 pm

dagger wrote:To the surprise of many, Greg Bird has been released by the Jays.

Cyrus wrote:Weird Bird was having a decent spring trainning, and was looking to be that guy of bench? Wonder why we just let him go?

Randle McMurphy wrote:He's been a scrub his entire career. 10 meaningless games of not being a scrub didn't change that.

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Post #175 » by **Cyrus** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 6:14 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
Cyrus wrote:Weird Bird was having a decent spring trainning, and was looking to be that guy of bench? Wonder why we just let him go?

He's been a scrub his entire career. 10 meaningless games of not being a scrub didn't change that.

That's fine, so what scrub is going to be sitting on the bench instead?

SharoneWright · Post #176 » by **SharoneWright** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 6:55 pm

So wait, Bird pulled the plug?

Randle McMurphy · Post #177 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 7:32 pm

Cyrus wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
Cyrus wrote:Weird Bird was having a decent spring trainning, and was looking to be that guy of bench? Wonder why we just let him go?

He's been a scrub his entire career. 10 meaningless games of not being a scrub didn't change that.

That's fine, so what scrub is going to be sitting on the bench instead?

I'd imagine they'll probably use that spot for another reliever given the starters haven't been stretched out fully yet. But we'll see.

Randle McMurphy · Post #178 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 7:33 pm

SharoneWright wrote:So wait, Bird pulled the plug?

Jays weren't going to put him on the roster, so he cut himself loose.

Post #179 » by **Schad** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 9:09 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
SharoneWright wrote:So wait, Bird pulled the plug?

Jays weren't going to put him on the roster, so he cut himself loose.

Sensibly, because this is probably his best/last chance to make a major league roster somewhere.

Good choice by management, because I really wasn't looking forward to Bird -- one of the few LH batters with a reverse platoon split -- getting a whole bunch of ABs against right-handed pitching over the likes of Kirk.

polo007 · Post #180 » by **polo007** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 10:36 pm

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