2021-22 NBA Season Discussion

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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#1941 » by Doctor MJ » Sun Apr 3, 2022 4:22 pm

GSP wrote:I think Nash might really be the worst coach in the Nba. Everything that made Scott Brooks bad is Nash except even more.

What a horrific signing from Brooklyn. IIRC they passed on Ty Lue too BIG yikes


Definitely get that, and if the Nets have a poor post-season, it seems likely that Nash will not be the coach next year...

but I think it has to be understood through the lens of this being what KD and Kyrie want. They didn't want someone yelling at them and telling them need to do things differently. They basically felt like they didn't need to be coached, and that that meant their team didn't need Xs & Os fundamentals shoved down the team's throat.

If the Nets fail badly this year, maybe KD & Kyrie will have a more open mind to a more traditional coach, but even if they do then, that's not what they were open to before, so to me the Nets organization being where they are remains part and parcel with getting KD/Kyrie to your team.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#1942 » by Peregrine01 » Sun Apr 3, 2022 4:31 pm

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GSP wrote:I think Nash might really be the worst coach in the Nba. Everything that made Scott Brooks bad is Nash except even more.

What a horrific signing from Brooklyn. IIRC they passed on Ty Lue too BIG yikes


Definitely get that, and if the Nets have a poor post-season, it seems likely that Nash will not be the coach next year...

but I think it has to be understood through the lens of this being what KD and Kyrie want. They didn't want someone yelling at them and telling them need to do things differently. They basically felt like they didn't need to be coached, and that that meant their team didn't need Xs & Os fundamentals shoved down the team's throat.

If the Nets fail badly this year, maybe KD & Kyrie will have a more open mind to a more traditional coach, but even if they do then, that's not what they were open to before, so to me the Nets organization being where they are remains part and parcel with getting KD/Kyrie to your team.


Yeah, I don't understand where all this Nash animus is coming from when you watch how the Nets play and realize that it has KD and Kyrie's imprints all over it. I doubt who the coach is even matters all that much. KD would go off-script and do his own thing with Steph, Dray, Kerr and the championship Warriors and Kyrie did the same thing with the Cavs and Celts. Why would they do anything different now that they've joined forces and left those previous situations in large part so they can do what they want?
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#1943 » by falcolombardi » Sun Apr 3, 2022 10:10 pm

what is wrong with utah? is their chenistry just completely kill?

why are there talks about trading gobert even before the playoffs start?
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Post#1944 » by The High Cyde » Sun Apr 3, 2022 10:16 pm

falcolombardi wrote:what is wrong with utah? is their chenistry just completely kill?

why are there talks about trading gobert even before the playoffs start?


As a Clippers fan, I can see fraud teams a mile away. They need to clean house from top to bottom cause choking away big leads and big games are part of their DNA now. It sucks to say but I think they flame out in round 1 and that's all she wrote for the Quin-Mitchell-Gobert era.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#1945 » by GSP » Sun Apr 3, 2022 10:18 pm

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falcolombardi wrote:what is wrong with utah? is their chenistry just completely kill?

why are there talks about trading gobert even before the playoffs start?


As a Clippers fan, I can see fraud teams a mile away. They need to clean house from top to bottom cause choking away big leads and big games are part of their DNA now. It sucks to say but I think they flame out in round 1 and that's all she wrote for the Quin-Mitchell-Gobert era.


This. Last season was their best chance.....Ppl were saying it was the best Jazz team ever over Malone/Stockton teams :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: and they had an alltime choke reverse sweep to a Clips team without Kawhi

I called them being a 1st round L wayyyyy back when it looked like theyd at least have Hca round 1 but now its just obvious theyre done
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Post#1946 » by Peregrine01 » Sun Apr 3, 2022 10:36 pm

Surprised to see Luka target Giannis in pick and roll and even more surprised to see him consistently collapse the defense with Giannis on him. Perhaps Giannis isn't as good a man defender as many might think.

Also, the strength of guys like Luka and Jokic doesn't get the attention that it deserves. They probably don't have good weight-room strength but once these boys plant themselves in the lane, they don't get dislodged. It's a big reason why they're two of the best paint scorers in the game.
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Post#1947 » by LukaTheGOAT » Sun Apr 3, 2022 11:54 pm

Luka Doncic is the best perimeter offensive player in the world. Hope this helps.
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Post#1948 » by letskissbro » Mon Apr 4, 2022 12:30 am

Man the NBA just isn't for me anymore. Watching this Sixers Cavs game and you got Harden being Harden, right on cue Embiid gets another 20 free throw game, and then he smacks Garland directly on both forearms on a game winner attempt without a call. The whistle disparity teams get is just blatant and feels very deliberate.
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Post#1949 » by yoyoboy » Mon Apr 4, 2022 12:37 am

Yeah the current product is honestly just really difficult to watch at this point. It's laughable for the NBA to make a huge deal about calling things differently, only to revert back to their old ways a few weeks in. This game against Philly had to be the most frustrating game for me in my history of being an NBA fan. Just nonstop foul hunting by Embiid and Harden as half the calls are a result of them basically committing offensive fouls and then on the other end Embiid gets away with a a crucial foul against Garland on a layup to seal the game. I don't blame the refs. I blame those in charge allowing this.
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Post#1950 » by Peregrine01 » Mon Apr 4, 2022 12:39 am

A simple solution to not get pissed off by NBA officiating: don't watch Sixers games.
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Post#1951 » by MartinToVaught » Mon Apr 4, 2022 2:36 am

falcolombardi wrote:what is wrong with utah? is their chenistry just completely kill?

why are there talks about trading gobert even before the playoffs start?

They have Lob City syndrome. Lob City was never the same after blowing those Grizzlies, Thunder and Rockets series, and this Jazz team will never be the same after blowing those Nuggets and Clippers series. I think the lesson is that there's only so many playoff meltdowns a team can endure before you have to cut your losses and blow it up. Otherwise you get a toxic environment where players expect to choke (which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy), don't get along with each other, and generally look like they'd rather be anywhere else in the world than an NBA court. I think that's part of what we're seeing with Utah right now.

Also, their stars just aren't that good. Mitchell has developed into a selfish chucker who's nowhere near reliable enough to justify hogging the ball as much as he does down the stretch of games, and Gobert is unplayable in any serious playoff series. The ceiling for a team built around those two doesn't seem very high to begin with.

The Clippers kept the players and especially Doc several years too long even though it was already clear as soon as time ran out in Game 7 of that Houston series that the Lob City era was over. The Jazz should consider avoiding that mistake and clean house this offseason.
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Post#1952 » by falcolombardi » Mon Apr 4, 2022 2:44 am

i am now wonndering if players like Adrián dantley caused so much boredom with their free throw creation as embiid and harden do

maybe not because he doesnt seem to have flioped to get them?
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Post#1953 » by GSP » Mon Apr 4, 2022 2:57 am

Read on Twitter

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With Wolves new Fo the Kings are now unquestionably the worst run franchise in Nba and arguably in North American sports
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Post#1954 » by HeartBreakKid » Mon Apr 4, 2022 3:08 am

falcolombardi wrote:i am now wonndering if players like Adrián dantley caused so much boredom with their free throw creation as embiid and harden do

maybe not because he doesnt seem to have flioped to get them?


He wasn't on TV as much nor is there a place for fans to give their opinions on the matter.
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Post#1955 » by MartinToVaught » Mon Apr 4, 2022 3:33 am

GSP wrote:
Read on Twitter

:o :o

With Wolves new Fo the Kings are now unquestionably the worst run franchise in Nba and arguably in North American sports

I'd say the Commanders are easily a worse-run franchise with Snyder in charge. That's about it, though.
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Post#1956 » by Dr Positivity » Mon Apr 4, 2022 3:52 am

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Post#1957 » by Doctor MJ » Mon Apr 4, 2022 3:57 am

GSP wrote:
Read on Twitter

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With Wolves new Fo the Kings are now unquestionably the worst run franchise in Nba and arguably in North American sports


The Halliburton trade has always felt like it was going to hurt the Kings franchise more than they had any concept of when they did it.

This wasn't a repeat of passing on Doncic who was just another prospect that - yeah - they should have taken, but in the end, it's just another draft choice, and sometimes you get those wrong.

In Halliburton you had the only man left on the planet who wanted to go play for the Sacramento Kings, and they responded to his good attitude and impressive performance playing for them with yet another "get rich quick" scheme that got them nowhere and got rid of that good attitude, performer. Feels like they really sold their soul for absolutely nothing.

Of course as I say this, the Kings will of course have a new coach next year trying to get everybody on the team off on the right track from the starting gun. If the Kings end up looking good next year and Halliburton takes a step back, it won't seem like such an awful move, but man, some owners just don't get the importance of culture.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#1958 » by Doctor MJ » Mon Apr 4, 2022 3:59 am

MartinToVaught wrote:
GSP wrote:
Read on Twitter

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With Wolves new Fo the Kings are now unquestionably the worst run franchise in Nba and arguably in North American sports

I'd say the Commanders are easily a worse-run franchise with Snyder in charge. That's about it, though.


I know he's been seen as incompetent a long time, but why specifically do you see him doing a worse job than Vivek? So long as he hasn't fired a coach so he can implement a flag football strategy, the Kings feel hard to top.
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Post#1959 » by tsherkin » Mon Apr 4, 2022 4:04 am

Doctor MJ wrote:I know he's been seen as incompetent a long time, but why specifically do you see him doing a worse job than Vivek? So long as he hasn't fired a coach so he can implement a flag football strategy, the Kings feel hard to top.


It is always a shame to see a franchise drowning due to ownership. Not even management, but ownership.
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Post#1960 » by falcolombardi » Mon Apr 4, 2022 4:04 am

Doctor MJ wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:
GSP wrote:
Read on Twitter

:o :o

With Wolves new Fo the Kings are now unquestionably the worst run franchise in Nba and arguably in North American sports

I'd say the Commanders are easily a worse-run franchise with Snyder in charge. That's about it, though.


I know he's been seen as incompetent a long time, but why specifically do you see him doing a worse job than Vivek? So long as he hasn't fired a coach so he can implement a flag football strategy, the Kings feel hard to top.


the s*itshow artists formerly known as Washington redskins/football team issues went beyond sports suckyness, detroit lions far outdo them there in the nfl alone

it was about everythingh else, most famously their treatment of their cheerleading team that was literally criminal

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