Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher)

[Invictus88]

Yeah, this is obviously total conjecture but it would make sense if they were offering a future protected pick or some crap like that. Hell, it coulda been a pair of 2nd rounders. *shrug*

Regardless, every new report gives me renewed hope that we might still find a deal in the off-season.

The wording sure made it sound like Hart was the main thing we were offered, but I wouldn’t make the assumption that way either. We don’t know and may never.

I do wonder how the asking price may change in the offseason with another half year gone. Likely makes no difference to Portland but it could alter the market in general, reducing the price we can get.

Yeah. I was mulling whether it might go the other way because of Grant's contract being less of a risk because it's an expiring. However, I would think that whatever team gets him would want to lock him up to a larger long term deal (making his one less year a negative).

I don't think it will be a big impact either way though.

[Cowology]

Yeah, this is obviously total conjecture but it would make sense if they were offering a future protected pick or some crap like that. Hell, it coulda been a pair of 2nd rounders. *shrug*

Regardless, every new report gives me renewed hope that we might still find a deal in the off-season.

The wording sure made it sound like Hart was the main thing we were offered, but I wouldn’t make the assumption that way either. We don’t know and may never.

I do wonder how the asking price may change in the offseason with another half year gone. Likely makes no difference to Portland but it could alter the market in general, reducing the price we can get.

Yeah. I was mulling whether it might go the other way because of Grant's contract being less of a risk because it's an expiring. However, I would think that whatever team gets him would want to lock him up to a larger long term deal (making his one less year a negative).

I don't think it will be a big impact either way though.

It's really weird because you are talking about a team that has both cap space AND a TPE. You'd think they'd want to use their cap-space 1st, right? I'm not a cap guru, but that makes sense to me. I guess if you aren't planning on going over the cap either way then maybe it's no difference. Or maybe I'm not understanding how this actually works. This isn't something that ordinarily comes up.

[Snakebites]

Yeah, this is obviously total conjecture but it would make sense if they were offering a future protected pick or some crap like that. Hell, it coulda been a pair of 2nd rounders. *shrug*

Regardless, every new report gives me renewed hope that we might still find a deal in the off-season.

The wording sure made it sound like Hart was the main thing we were offered, but I wouldn’t make the assumption that way either. We don’t know and may never.

I do wonder how the asking price may change in the offseason with another half year gone. Likely makes no difference to Portland but it could alter the market in general, reducing the price we can get.

Yeah. I was mulling whether it might go the other way because of Grant's contract being less of a risk because it's an expiring. However, I would think that whatever team gets him would want to lock him up to a larger long term deal (making his one less year a negative).

I don't think it will be a big impact either way though.

I think the only way it positively impacts his value is if he’s not worth what he’s paid now. And if that’s the case we’re not getting much either way.

[vege]

The wording sure made it sound like Hart was the main thing we were offered, but I wouldn’t make the assumption that way either. We don’t know and may never.

I do wonder how the asking price may change in the offseason with another half year gone. Likely makes no difference to Portland but it could alter the market in general, reducing the price we can get.

Yeah. I was mulling whether it might go the other way because of Grant's contract being less of a risk because it's an expiring. However, I would think that whatever team gets him would want to lock him up to a larger long term deal (making his one less year a negative).

I don't think it will be a big impact either way though.

It's really weird because you are talking about a team that has both cap space AND a TPE. You'd think they'd want to use their cap-space 1st, right? I'm not a cap guru, but that makes sense to me. I guess if you aren't planning on going over the cap either way then maybe it's no difference. Or maybe I'm not understanding how this actually works. This isn't something that ordinarily comes up.

In order for them to get the raw cap space, they'll need to renouce the TPE, so it's whatever.

[SamFlow]

Hart and both firsts for Grant and Olynk or the like or bugger off.

[bstein14]

Hart and both firsts for Grant and Olynk or the like or bugger off.

Blazers own pick might end up better than us. They will have a decent % chance of moving into the top 4 with their late season tank. They are the 6th worst team in the league right now which gives them a 37% chance of landing a top 4 pick.

[DetroitDon15]

Yeah it’s an interesting thought. Blazers go over the cap. Use the TPE to send to Detroit plus Hart and draft pick this year for say Grant and KO. I’d be good with that deal.

[zeebneeb]

If Portland wants to compete asap, Grant and Olynyk are a great start.

This could end up being an amazing offseason for Detroit if things go right with the ping-pong balls.

Cross your fingers and toes people!

[tmorgan]

I would 100% absolutely agree to deal of Grant and Olynyk for Hart and a pick around #11. I want Dyson Daniels. He probably isn’t ready to start next to Cade next year, but he could come off the bench and develop. Kid is 19 and gives me serious SGA vibes. Really good defender, about Cade’s size and build, ball handler. Shot still needs work but isn’t broken. Really talented, check out his Ignite highlights.

[Cowology]

I would 100% absolutely agree to deal of Grant and Olynyk for Hart and a pick around #11. I want Dyson Daniels. He probably isn’t ready to start next to Cade next year, but he could come off the bench and develop. Kid is 19 and gives me serious SGA vibes. Really good defender, about Cade’s size and build, ball handler. Shot still needs work but isn’t broken. Really talented, check out his Ignite highlights.

I'd 100% do that deal as well, but I don't think POR would.

[The Moose]

Makes sense for Weaver to wait until the lottery, if we get a top 3 pick, moving Grant is the obvious move.

If we are pick 6/7 , he probably will have to think about what the plan really is.

At the trade deadline , the blazers wanted to tank the rest of the season , and we were already in the pole position for the tank. There was really no need to rush from either teams perspective

[SamFlow]

I would 100% absolutely agree to deal of Grant and Olynyk for Hart and a pick around #11. I want Dyson Daniels. He probably isn’t ready to start next to Cade next year, but he could come off the bench and develop. Kid is 19 and gives me serious SGA vibes. Really good defender, about Cade’s size and build, ball handler. Shot still needs work but isn’t broken. Really talented, check out his Ignite highlights.

Daniels is NOT one of the guys I want in Detroit. Scorers. Ball Handlers. Center.

Mark Williams from Duke is a possibility.
I think A.J. Griffin from Duke is a Weaver type of guy.

Mathurin and Beauchamp interest me on different levels.

Cade seems to really like Banchero.

Take bpa or need. Do we even trade Grant. Unless it's a great deal, probably not.

I imagine they offered the pick that could turn into two 2nd rounders and hart.

I think Hart could be good given a chance. Good fit with Cade too. Still would need ball handler and a center/lob/defender.

One thing for certain, both lions and pistons off seasons and draft should be nice.

[FloridaMan78]

Yeah. I was mulling whether it might go the other way because of Grant's contract being less of a risk because it's an expiring. However, I would think that whatever team gets him would want to lock him up to a larger long term deal (making his one less year a negative).

I don't think it will be a big impact either way though.

It's really weird because you are talking about a team that has both cap space AND a TPE. You'd think they'd want to use their cap-space 1st, right? I'm not a cap guru, but that makes sense to me. I guess if you aren't planning on going over the cap either way then maybe it's no difference. Or maybe I'm not understanding how this actually works. This isn't something that ordinarily comes up.

In order for them to get the raw cap space, they'll need to renouce the TPE, so it's whatever.

Couldn’t they use the TPE next year when they are already over the cap? If they’re going all in to retool around Dame I see them going over the salary cap next year.

[Snakebites]

I think some people have unrealistic views on what Grant’s value is.

[Kalamazoo317]

I think some people have unrealistic views on what Grant’s value is.

Agreed. Some people don't think he has any value to our current roster and would happily trade him for nothing, which is not at all realistic, IMO.

[Snakebites]

I think some people have unrealistic views on what Grant’s value is.

Agreed. Some people don't think he has any value to our current roster and would happily trade him for nothing, which is not at all realistic, IMO.

Really? Like who?

[Cowology]

I think ...

1) People overestimate Grants' trade value.
2) People underestimate Harts' trade value.
3) People overestimate the impact of a mid 1st.
4) People underestimate the value of a mid 1st.

It's quite the mind bender.

[Sort]

A forum thread is meant for dreaming, and Olynyk/Grant for high pick and Hart moves my needle. That said, I don't know how much or how real it would help the Pistons - I guess depending upon how the high that pick and the Pistons pick actually is. Pistons are thin with real bigs.

[mattao313]

Give me a lotto pick and cap space and be done. They can keep hart for their team.

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[vic]

What kind of pick can get you a player that could realistically play a role in the Western Conference finals, and also in the Olympics?

That's the level of pick I'll take for Grant.