2022 NFL Draft discussion

[Matches Malone]

:eyebrows:

I like the last 3 guys you picked.

Ya if those are our first 2 picks i would be pretty pissed off lol..especially the CB at 28 after resigning Douglas...we got plenty of later picks for a development corner.....the two 2nd round picks would be great though

I love how worked up people get over meaningless mocks. And you should read up on Daxton Hill. Far cry from just a "development corner". I'm not married to anybody in this draft and seeing as how people whined about the last few drafts but now fondle over some of those picks like Dillon, I think others should take that advice.

[Profound23]

Wish we could get in on sending one of our picks to a bad team for their 2023 first.

Risky proposition. The NFL is the one league where you can go from worst to first in the blink of an eye

Ok, so worst case scenario you traded the 22nd pick in a below-average draft for the 32nd pick in a better draft and a 2nd round pick in 2024. For that, worst case scenario to happen a salary cap-strapped team with a new coach and Winston at QB needs to win the Superbowl.

I would be willing to bet that pick is closer to 1 than 32, but I still take that chance of a worst-case scenario.

[jakecronus8]

The time to trade for future picks is when you have no expectation of winning next year.

I've run a bunch of simulations and I don't like the outcome when we stand pat. There's a chance someone falls to #22 (Jameson Williams, Olave, Wyatt), but more often it will be a player who isn't a good fit. Even less of a chance for #28 to have a good player for the packers.
I wouldn't mind trading up to ensure we get Wyatt, but I don't think iDL will be a target after signing a veteran.

If they trade up I’d rather go all the way with it for a blue chipper.

Hamilton
Hutchison
Walker
Thibodeaux
Neal

all fit that bill (in that order).

I don't think they can get into the top five, or if they could I don't think the price is worth it.

The best trade-up guy IMO Davis. Haloti Ngata went #12 in the 2006 NFL draft, and every team that didn't take him 1-11 regretted it. Davis was the 2nd most dominant player in college football last season, and he backed it up with a ridiculous run up to the draft. If you can get him in the teens it's a steal.

Houston could be in play. They have the 13th pick. If they’re like me and many others and not elated with the QB class I could see them being interested in Love. Love/22/53 could get the conversation started at least and Love/22/28 almost certainly gets it done IMO.

[DrWood]

Risky proposition. The NFL is the one league where you can go from worst to first in the blink of an eye

The time to trade for future picks is when you have no expectation of winning next year.

I've run a bunch of simulations and I don't like the outcome when we stand pat. There's a chance someone falls to #22 (Jameson Williams, Olave, Wyatt), but more often it will be a player who isn't a good fit. Even less of a chance for #28 to have a good player for the packers.
I wouldn't mind trading up to ensure we get Wyatt, but I don't think iDL will be a target after signing a veteran.

If they trade up I’d rather go all the way with it for a blue chipper.

Hamilton
Hutchison
Walker
Thibodeaux
Neal

all fit that bill (in that order).

I wouldn't trade up for any of them.

[DrWood]

Wish we could get in on sending one of our picks to a bad team for their 2023 first.

Risky proposition. The NFL is the one league where you can go from worst to first in the blink of an eye

Ok, so worst case scenario you traded the 22nd pick in a below-average draft for the 32nd pick in a better draft and a 2nd round pick in 2024. For that, worst case scenario to happen a salary cap-strapped team with a new coach and Winston at QB needs to win the Superbowl.

I would be willing to bet that pick is closer to 1 than 32, but I still take that chance of a worst-case scenario.

There is only one situation where trading away for a (high) 2023 pick would make sense for the Packers--If a really stupid GM GREATLY undervalued the 2023 pick.

It's like a lot of the trade suggestions on sports forums--you can add a caveat that, well, of course, you make a trade if the other GM is an idiot and you're getting far more than a reasonable return.

[DrWood]

If they trade up I’d rather go all the way with it for a blue chipper.

Hamilton
Hutchison
Walker
Thibodeaux
Neal

all fit that bill (in that order).

I don't think they can get into the top five, or if they could I don't think the price is worth it.

The best trade-up guy IMO Davis. Haloti Ngata went #12 in the 2006 NFL draft, and every team that didn't take him 1-11 regretted it. Davis was the 2nd most dominant player in college football last season, and he backed it up with a ridiculous run up to the draft. If you can get him in the teens it's a steal.

Houston could be in play. They have the 13th pick. If they’re like me and many others and not elated with the QB class I could see them being interested in Love. Love/22/53 could get the conversation started at least and Love/22/28 almost certainly gets it done IMO.

#22 and #53 is a perfect trade for #13, from the value chart.
I can't think on anyone I would want at #13 who I would value more than #22 and #53. Maybe one of the top 2 OT.
If Wyatt dropped to 18 or so, I'd try to trade up around there. Maybe #19 or #20 to take Olave or Williams, if they're there.

If Gutekunst trades Love, we need to get a 2nd round QB to replace him (Corral would be my choice), so it might be hard to swing a trade

[DrWood]

Wish we could get in on sending one of our picks to a bad team for their 2023 first.

Risky proposition. The NFL is the one league where you can go from worst to first in the blink of an eye

Ok, so worst case scenario you traded the 22nd pick in a below-average draft for the 32nd pick in a better draft and a 2nd round pick in 2024. For that, worst case scenario to happen a salary cap-strapped team with a new coach and Winston at QB needs to win the Superbowl.

I would be willing to bet that pick is closer to 1 than 32, but I still take that chance of a worst-case scenario.

I will gladly give you a cheeseburger in a year if you buy me a cheeseburger now.

The worst case scenario is the player doesn't become a starter (which is always an IF by itself) until after Aaron has retired.
Trading for a 2023 FRP is idiotic, unless the other team has an idiot GM who greatly undervalues the future.

[DrWood]

I love how worked up people get over meaningless mocks. And you should read up on Daxton Hill. Far cry from just a "development corner". I'm not married to anybody in this draft and seeing as how people whined about the last few drafts but now fondle over some of those picks like Dillon, I think others should take that advice.

Seems a bit disingenuous. Why did you post it if you didn't want to solicit responses? You just didn't get the response you wanted (adoration).

[WRau1]

We should use both 1sts to draft 2qbs, Rodgers would play at 2x the MVP level. The Owl is ours.

[TroyD92]

I'd be cool with this

[Matches Malone]

I love how worked up people get over meaningless mocks. And you should read up on Daxton Hill. Far cry from just a "development corner". I'm not married to anybody in this draft and seeing as how people whined about the last few drafts but now fondle over some of those picks like Dillon, I think others should take that advice.

Seems a bit disingenuous. Why did you post it if you didn't want to solicit responses? You just didn't get the response you wanted (adoration).

Adoration? You really shouldn't project your insecurties on others. I like hearing other's opinions on different prospects. If you don't like a player, tell me why you don't like it. Not just that "I'd be pissed if we took them". I find it odd when someone has such a negative reaction one way or another. Draft is such a crap shoot and there are so many other factors that play into roster building that we aren't taking into context which always has an effect on how they draft.

[MickeyDavis]

I'm all aboard the Williams train. It will be very interesting to see where he goes. I think he's gone before our pick so the question will be if we trade up for him. We need Alex Lasry to leak the Packers draft board.

[Matches Malone]

I'm all aboard the Williams train. It will be very interesting to see where he goes. I think he's gone before our pick so the question will be if we trade up for him. We need Alex Lasry to leak the Packers draft board.

I think I'm on the Williams train as well. He's just on another level skill-wise. The ACL is scary because we're quickly becoming the knee's team, but I think I'd risk it.

[LUKE23]

I'm all aboard the Williams train. It will be very interesting to see where he goes. I think he's gone before our pick so the question will be if we trade up for him. We need Alex Lasry to leak the Packers draft board.

Been on that train for a while. To get that guy at 22 would only be because of the injury and I still think he ends up being the best WR in the draft.

I feel pretty confident we are going top shelf athlete (RAS) at the position though. I don't think we want to take Dotson or Burks, and I think we have Watson and Pickens as the 5/6 guys on our board at WR after the consensus top 4 (Wilson/London/Williams/Olave in whatever order).

I'm also pretty confident we aren't trading picks in this draft for future picks. For the obvious reasons that we are as win now as any team in the NFL and we aren't even guaranteed three years with Rodgers. It's going to be a big rebuild once he's gone, they are going to throw all the cap/draft chips in now. Is what it is.

[DrWood]

Ya if those are our first 2 picks i would be pretty pissed off lol..especially the CB at 28 after resigning Douglas...we got plenty of later picks for a development corner.....the two 2nd round picks would be great though

I love how worked up people get over meaningless mocks. And you should read up on Daxton Hill. Far cry from just a "development corner". I'm not married to anybody in this draft and seeing as how people whined about the last few drafts but now fondle over some of those picks like Dillon, I think others should take that advice.

I think he was suggesting that the only CB he wanted to draft would be a developmental one, since we already have 3 good ones on the roster.

If those first two guys are good picks where you're picking, you should do all you can to trade down, if you have a reasonable offer.

[DrWood]

I'm all aboard the Williams train. It will be very interesting to see where he goes. I think he's gone before our pick so the question will be if we trade up for him. We need Alex Lasry to leak the Packers draft board.

Been on that train for a while. To get that guy at 22 would only be because of the injury and I still think he ends up being the best WR in the draft.

I feel pretty confident we are going top shelf athlete (RAS) at the position though. I don't think we want to take Dotson or Burks, and I think we have Watson and Pickens as the 5/6 guys on our board at WR after the consensus top 4 (Wilson/London/Williams/Olave in whatever order).

I'm also pretty confident we aren't trading picks in this draft for future picks. For the obvious reasons that we are as win now as any team in the NFL and we aren't even guaranteed three years with Rodgers. It's going to be a big rebuild once he's gone, they are going to throw all the cap/draft chips in now. Is what it is.

I don't think anyone thinks Williams would be a bad pick at #22. It's just not likely that he'll be there. If he or someone else valuable to the packers hasn't dropped, then it's time to trade down.

[LUKE23]

I don't think anyone thinks Williams would be a bad pick at #22. It's just not likely that he'll be there. If he or someone else valuable to the packers hasn't dropped, then it's time to trade down.

You very well could be right on that. In my opinion, given what we have done to the WR room, and our complete lack of using trade/FA (up to this point) to upgrade the position means the Packers have put themselves in a position where they almost have to get one of the top 4 IMO (Wilson, Williams, London, Olave). Now, I guess they could still do a Metcalf trade or something, but I just don't see that happening with the cap implications of that type of move in the very near future. If we have to move up a bit for one of those four guys, we should IMO. I'm also fine with moving up in the 2nd for Watson (preferably) or Pickens (would still be happy). We need a massive talent infusion at WR.

We have 11 picks. If we only end up with 7 guys from this class, I'm good with it. Just hope the scouts have been working overtime.

[DrWood]

I don't think anyone thinks Williams would be a bad pick at #22. It's just not likely that he'll be there. If he or someone else valuable to the packers hasn't dropped, then it's time to trade down.

You very well could be right on that. In my opinion, given what we have done to the WR room, and our complete lack of using trade/FA (up to this point) to upgrade the position means the Packers have put themselves in a position where they almost have to get one of the top 4 IMO (Wilson, Williams, London, Olave). Now, I guess they could still do a Metcalf trade or something, but I just don't see that happening with the cap implications of that type of move in the very near future. If we have to move up a bit for one of those four guys, we should IMO. I'm also fine with moving up in the 2nd for Watson (preferably) or Pickens (would still be happy). We need a massive talent infusion at WR.

We have 11 picks. If we only end up with 7 guys from this class, I'm good with it. Just hope the scouts have been working overtime.

I don't agree. Watson, Tolbert, Pierce, Pickens and a half dozen others are pretty good prospects, and not even the first round picks are sure things (Wilson is pretty much a sure thing, at least as a slot receiver, but injuries happen). There is no one in this draft that warrants the cost of trading up, UNLESS someone drops (like a top 10 talent still being on the board at 18).

Cooks is the WR I'd try to trade for. But there is still time to trade; many trades of players for picks are done on draft day, as the board starts to work itself out.

[ReasonablySober]

Packers are hosting Pickens.

[TroyD92]

Pickens is my favorite wr in the draft so very happy to hear that