"Bench Mob" 2023 = Pritchard, White, Grant, Brogdon, Kornet, Hauser, Muscala, Griffin

[zoyathedestroya]

Our bench shooters -- Nesmith, Pritchard, Hauser, Grant -- are a combined 86/192 (44.79%) from beyond the arc since the trade deadline. Even with his "slump", Grant's still making 37.5% of his threes in that span. Plus he's a real threat as a closeout driver now.



EDIT: White is at 42% in his last 8 games. Hoping that trend continues into the playoffs.

[Gomes3PC]

Is Grant a $15-20m player on his next contract?

I doubt it; I suspect he will wind up on some higher-priced version of the Larry Nance deal, like 4 years, $56M or something like that. He's versatile and young but a very limited player ultimately - low volume shooters who don't create for others ultimately have some level of a cap on what the market pays for them. Guys like Ingles, McDermott, and the DFS contract are likely where his comps will be.

Personally though, I'd bet on Grant with that deal. I think he has good vision generally and if he can keep working on his handle I think his assists/playmaking will pick up.

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Our bench shooters -- Nesmith, Pritchard, Hauser, Grant -- are a combined 86/192 (44.79%) from beyond the arc since the trade deadline. Even with his "slump", Grant's still making 37.5% of his threes in that span. Plus he's a real threat as a closeout driver now.



EDIT: White is at 42% in his last 8 games. Hoping that trend continues into the playoffs.

I love it when Proof of what I said all year long comes to fruition. Shooting %s increase greatly with more continued "real" playing time. All year long some posters claimed PP and Nemith can't shoot.. PP-Nesmith- Hauser should, I pray, be unleashed next year.

[zoyathedestroya]

Our bench shooters -- Nesmith, Pritchard, Hauser, Grant -- are a combined 86/192 (44.79%) from beyond the arc since the trade deadline. Even with his "slump", Grant's still making 37.5% of his threes in that span. Plus he's a real threat as a closeout driver now.



EDIT: White is at 42% in his last 8 games. Hoping that trend continues into the playoffs.

I love it when Proof of what I said all year long comes to fruition. Shooting %s increase greatly with more continued "real" playing time. All year long some posters claimed PP and Nemith can't shoot.. PP-Nesmith- Hauser should, I pray, be unleashed next year.

Better ball movement second half of the season -- crisper, timelier passing -- has helped too. But that's just my opinion. I have no objective way to prove that shooting % is better coming from multiple swings or drive-and-kicks than via single-pass possessions (unless the passer is Lebron, Luka, or Harden).

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Our bench shooters -- Nesmith, Pritchard, Hauser, Grant -- are a combined 86/192 (44.79%) from beyond the arc since the trade deadline. Even with his "slump", Grant's still making 37.5% of his threes in that span. Plus he's a real threat as a closeout driver now.



EDIT: White is at 42% in his last 8 games. Hoping that trend continues into the playoffs.

I love it when Proof of what I said all year long comes to fruition. Shooting %s increase greatly with more continued "real" playing time. All year long some posters claimed PP and Nemith can't shoot.. PP-Nesmith- Hauser should, I pray, be unleashed next year.

Better ball movement second half of the season -- crisper, timelier passing -- has helped too. But that's just my opinion. I have no objective way to prove that shooting % is better coming from multiple swings or drive-and-kicks than via single-pass possessions (unless the passer is Lebron, Luka, or Harden).

while I also "can't prove it", as a former "shooter" and with my older son being a "top shooter" in D1 2010, and a ton of other players I have trained throughout, I can confidently say "shooting" is far better with, as you say, "crisper timelier passing". It's like when you know the ball is/will come to you, comfort/confidence and rhythm works so much better than with stagnate ball movement and last 2nd swings.

Either way our much maligned shooting issues in the first half of the year have greatly improved. expect even better going forward.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Is Grant a $15-20m player on his next contract?

I doubt it; I suspect he will wind up on some higher-priced version of the Larry Nance deal, like 4 years, $56M or something like that. He's versatile and young but a very limited player ultimately - low volume shooters who don't create for others ultimately have some level of a cap on what the market pays for them. Guys like Ingles, McDermott, and the DFS contract are likely where his comps will be.

Personally though, I'd bet on Grant with that deal. I think he has good vision generally and if he can keep working on his handle I think his assists/playmaking will pick up.

For 15-20 millions you could sign an established NBA starter in unrestricted free agency last summer (Hardaway, Powell, Fournier, Dinwiddie,...). Grant Williams is probably not valued at that level by front offices leaguewide. Add in the fact that if he signs an extension this summer a year before restricted free agency he'll have much less leverage and it's hard to project him to that salary range.

As a late first round pick he hasn't made a ton of money (relatively speaking) on his first contract so there's some pressure to lock in his second contract to set himself/his family up for life as soon as possible. Getting something done in the 10-12 million range for 3-4 years make a lot of sense for both sides.

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Happy to see Nesmith have another good shooting game. His shot chart for the year doesn't look that bad, just don't park him the corners

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Is Grant a $15-20m player on his next contract?

I doubt it; I suspect he will wind up on some higher-priced version of the Larry Nance deal, like 4 years, $56M or something like that. He's versatile and young but a very limited player ultimately - low volume shooters who don't create for others ultimately have some level of a cap on what the market pays for them. Guys like Ingles, McDermott, and the DFS contract are likely where his comps will be.

Personally though, I'd bet on Grant with that deal. I think he has good vision generally and if he can keep working on his handle I think his assists/playmaking will pick up.

So you don't think he'll make $15-20 million, but instead will make more than $14 million?

[cl2117]

This is kind of insane. It feels like it's all coming together at exactly the right time. Even Nesmith showing signs of life.

The last couple weeks have been an absolute rollercoaster. First we're dominating looking like legitimate title contenders, then Timelord goes down and seemingly our lofty aspirations with him. Now we're still sitting in the driver's seat for the #2 seed with the bench mob elevating to a level that could keep us in the mix until Rob is back healthy.

Ime's obviously got an 8 man rotation he's going to ride or die with and that 3 man bench (PP, White, Grant) is hitting their stride. Grant's had a bit of a shooting slide, but PP/White are heating up to compensate. It's just such a tight/complimentary group, the sky's the limit.

Even after Rob's back, Theis looks like he can have a situational role for us. He's the kind of guy who can feed off the attention our stars get and thrive by just making the "right play". If a guy like Nesmith or even Hauser can get going as a three point specialist off the bench to be deployed situationally, we've got an embarrassment of riches.

And the crazy thing is we can run this entire team back essentially. This team is nuts.

[Gomes3PC]

Is Grant a $15-20m player on his next contract?

I doubt it; I suspect he will wind up on some higher-priced version of the Larry Nance deal, like 4 years, $56M or something like that. He's versatile and young but a very limited player ultimately - low volume shooters who don't create for others ultimately have some level of a cap on what the market pays for them. Guys like Ingles, McDermott, and the DFS contract are likely where his comps will be.

Personally though, I'd bet on Grant with that deal. I think he has good vision generally and if he can keep working on his handle I think his assists/playmaking will pick up.

So you don't think he'll make $15-20 million, but instead will make more than $14 million?

Yeah I think his market is pretty much right on where DFS signed, plus a tiny bit given his youth. Look if you HAD to stretch and give him $15M, you probably do it, but hard for Grant to argue getting much more than Timelord honestly when you look at their value, even knowing bigs are discounted on the market.

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I doubt it; I suspect he will wind up on some higher-priced version of the Larry Nance deal, like 4 years, $56M or something like that. He's versatile and young but a very limited player ultimately - low volume shooters who don't create for others ultimately have some level of a cap on what the market pays for them. Guys like Ingles, McDermott, and the DFS contract are likely where his comps will be.

Personally though, I'd bet on Grant with that deal. I think he has good vision generally and if he can keep working on his handle I think his assists/playmaking will pick up.

So you don't think he'll make $15-20 million, but instead will make more than $14 million?

Yeah I think his market is pretty much right on where DFS signed, plus a tiny bit given his youth. Look if you HAD to stretch and give him $15M, you probably do it, but hard for Grant to argue getting much more than Timelord honestly when you look at their value, even knowing bigs are discounted on the market.

Actually, I was raising a point of arithmetic. Salaries significantly over $14 million tend to be $15 million or more as well.

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CAN I PUT IN AN OFFICIAL REQUEST TO HAVE HAUSER INCLUDED WITH THE BENCH MOB??

HAUSER IS A MAJOR WEAPON TO HAVE.

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CAN I PUT IN AN OFFICIAL REQUEST TO HAVE HAUSER INCLUDED WITH THE BENCH MOB??

HAUSER IS A MAJOR WEAPON TO HAVE.

Let's see if he becomes part of the Rotation, first.

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First 15 games: 37/22/83
Last 10 games: 46/44/87

Hope this hot shooting carries over into the playoffs.

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This is a neat little article, thanks for sharing. Love this kid.