Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 4

[puppa bear]

I really hope the Mets finish 7th and play the Bucks. They will get tired and we'll have a better matchup in the 1st round.

And if the Mets come out of that series, I hope they match up against the Chiefs or Bills.

Nah, they’ll likely end up facing the Bruins or Atlanta United. Either way, they’ll be need to avoid 7-10 splits and stay out of the rough!

[3ammy3uck3ts]

If you ask me, the vets in Miami have basically been waiting for playoffs to start for the past month

I saw it the same way. Lowry & Jimmy checked out for a stretch. Lowry exerting less energy looking for his shot - Passing instead, which takes less effort. Jimmy surrendered his sense of urgency during same stretch. Post in-game scuffle both flipped a switch & turned it on. Both playing fantastic w/ solid efficiency. We're ready!

Team reminds me a lot of '04 Pistons - Play as a team, deep, focus on D & have no real super-star/prolific scorer. Let's see if we can replicate their success.

Lowry basically said he’s been coasting all season and he’s trying a little harder right now without coming out and flat out saying it

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Elite scoring efficiency. He still needs to take more shots.

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Damn and Duncan has been trash outside of 1, maybe 2 of those games

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Seems to have found a role he’s better at.

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Sniper gang and Jimmy is on the way

[DayofMourning]

I really hope the Mets finish 7th and play the Bucks. They will get tired and we'll have a better matchup in the 1st round.

And if the Mets come out of that series, I hope they match up against the Chiefs or Bills.

Nah, they’ll likely end up facing the Bruins or Atlanta United. Either way, they’ll be need to avoid 7-10 splits and stay out of the rough!

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I still remember towards the later stages of Wades career and to a lesser extent in his peak where he would barely attempt a 3 all season and then the playoffs would roll around and he’d say “**** it I’m an elite shooter now” and just catch fire from 3. Looks like Jimmy is doing the same

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[somerandomdude]

Only 2 games, though.

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[carnageta]

There's no excuses for Butler to not be at least a 33% shooter from deep. His previous 5 seasons before joining Miami: 34%, 35%, 37%, 31%, 38%. Use those legs and take the open shots in the flow of the offense, Jimmy!

[somerandomdude]

TylerTuesdays aren't just a meme

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Only 2 games, though.

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Reminds me of the band aid Wade, untucked Jersey Wade, face mask LeBron, and no headband Lebron days

[AirP.]

There's no excuses for Butler to not be at least a 33% shooter from deep. His previous 5 seasons before joining Miami: 34%, 35%, 37%, 31%, 38%. Use those legs and take the open shots in the flow of the offense, Jimmy!

To be a good 3pt shooter you have to work on your 3s, the great 3pt shooters spend a great amount of time basically every day working on their muscle memory for those shots. Since coming to Miami Butler's been utilized as a facilitator and truth be told, there's much better 3pt shooters on the team that makes sense for him to pass up even an open 3 to give one of those teammates a chance at a 3. This year Miami added a facilitating PG but I don't think Butler worked much on his 3pt shot in the offseason(probably worked on his midgame), but I did mention during the season it looked like Butler was actually looking to take 3s (vs last second 3s) and with that he'd be working on his 3ball(since he's actively looking to shoot 3s) which would be a good thing for Miami, up to a few weeks ago I was arguing this point vs something was wrong with his wrist. So, either his wrist magically got better then what it was or he's started working on shooting 3s and is building up the muscle memory to be where he currently is at with his 3pt shot. He's shown the ability early in his career to be a 38-39% shooter from the corners so if he could do it before, he should be able to do it again with the same amount of work(he was trying to become a 3&D player early in his career).

On 3s it's a lot about muscle memory, it's why players like Ray Allen would show up to games 3 to 3 1/2 hours early to get his shots in.
This following was the first article that came up, not the best.

It seems like a lot of effort for what is only a 20-minute workout, especially for a player that only averaged eight shots per game in the regular season. Still, it’s a routine, and Ray Allen is sticking with it. Since Allen’s second NBA season, so long ago that it was Michael Jordan’s final year with the Chicago Bulls, Ray has been getting to home and away arenas three and a half hours before tipoff to work on his shooting. The practice routine has continued unabated for a decade and a half, with four different teams, and his slavish devotion to the workout has changed the culture for the Miami Heat.

https://sports.yahoo.com/ray-allen-often-personal-team-bus-ride-early-162053238.html?a20=1

[AirP.]

Near the end of the season ORTG-DRTG for the Heat, I removed some of the low data guys. Herro's ORTG-DRGT has been climbing in the 2nd half of the season, he was flirting with -10 for nearly half the season I believe.

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Player            ORtg DRtg ORtg-DRtg
------            ---- ---- ---------
Jimmy Butler      124  107         17
Dewayne Dedmon    117  104         13
Bam Adebayo       116  104         12
Caleb Martin      119  108         11
Omer Yurtseven    115  104         11
P.J. Tucker       120  109         11
Kyle Lowry        118  110          8
Max Strus         116  112          4
Duncan Robinson   113  112          1
Udonis Haslem     104  107         -3
Gabe Vincent      106  110         -4
Tyler Herro       107  111         -4
Markieff Morris   104  112         -8
Victor Oladipo    102  112        -10


[twix2500]

Having an interesting conversations with a young coach and its about a topic I brought up here, about offensive scheme relative to driving to the rim/pressure. I mention previously here that this team makeup and scheme is not design for high level driving to rim. Aka "drive and kick"

I looked up this stat and found the top five teams offenses that drive to the rim the LEAST are;

1. Denver Nuggets
2. Brooklyn Nets
3. Golden State Warriors
4. Miami Heat
5. LA Clippers

The difference between the team who drive the LEAST from the MOST is a whooping difference of 30 drives a game.

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[twix2500]

Having an interesting conversations with a young coach and its about a topic I brought up here, about offensive scheme relative to driving to the rim/pressure. I mention previously here that this team makeup and scheme is not design for high level driving to rim. Aka "drive and kick"

I looked up this stat and found the top five teams offenses that drive to the rim the LEAST are;

1. Denver Nuggets
2. Brooklyn Nets
3. Golden State Warriors
4. Miami Heat
5. LA Clippers

The difference between the team who drive the LEAST from the MOST is a whooping difference of 30 drives a game.

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Reletive to this discussion, lets look at the Heat player average drives to the basket

Season average Drives per player -
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1. Jimmy Butler - 13.5
2. Tyler Herro - 11.8
3. Kyle Lowry - 7.2
4. Victor Oladipo - 5.7
5. Gabe Vincent - 5.2
6. Bam Adebayo - 3.6
7. Caleb Martin - 3.1
8. Duncan Robinson - 1.9
9. Max Strus - 1.6
10. P.J. Tucker - 1.1
11. Markief Morris - 0.8
12. Dwayne Dedmon - 0.2

Last 5 games average Drives per player -
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1. Jimmy Butler - 14.8
2. Tyler Herro - 7.8
3. Kyle Lowry - 4.5
4. Caleb Martin - 4.0
5. Gabe Vincent - 3.8
6. Bam Adebayo - 3.0
7. Victor Oladipo - 3.0
8. P.J. Tucker - 1.8
9. Markief Morris - 1.0
10. Max Strus - 1.0
11. Duncan Robinson - 0.4
12. Dwayne Dedmon - 0.0

~For the Year the Heat average 39.9 drives to the basket per game.
~The last 5 games the Heat has average 34.4 drives to the basket per game.

[IceColdCubano]

Having an interesting conversations with a young coach and its about a topic I brought up here, about offensive scheme relative to driving to the rim/pressure. I mention previously here that this team makeup and scheme is not design for high level driving to rim. Aka "drive and kick"

I looked up this stat and found the top five teams offenses that drive to the rim the LEAST are;

1. Denver Nuggets
2. Brooklyn Nets
3. Golden State Warriors
4. Miami Heat
5. LA Clippers

The difference between the team who drive the LEAST from the MOST is a whooping difference of 30 drives a game.

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Reletive to this discussion, lets look at the Heat player average drives to the basket

Season average Drives per player -
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1. Jimmy Butler - 13.5
2. Tyler Herro - 11.8
3. Kyle Lowry - 7.2
4. Victor Oladipo - 5.7
5. Gabe Vincent - 5.2
6. Bam Adebayo - 3.6
7. Caleb Martin - 3.1
8. Duncan Robinson - 1.9
9. Max Strus - 1.6
10. P.J. Tucker - 1.1
11. Markief Morris - 0.8
12. Dwayne Dedmon - 0.2

Last 5 games average Drives per player -
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1. Jimmy Butler - 14.8
2. Tyler Herro - 7.8
3. Kyle Lowry - 4.5
4. Caleb Martin - 4.0
5. Gabe Vincent - 3.8
6. Bam Adebayo - 3.0
7. Victor Oladipo - 3.0
8. P.J. Tucker - 1.8
9. Markief Morris - 1.0
10. Max Strus - 1.0
11. Duncan Robinson - 0.4
12. Dwayne Dedmon - 0.0

~For the Year the Heat average 39.9 drives to the basket per game.
~The last 5 games the Heat has average 34.4 drives to the basket per game.

Bam is averaging even less drives per game the last 5 games than his season average. What can we do outside of forcing him, to get BAM to be in our top 3 in drives?

[twix2500]

Having an interesting conversations with a young coach and its about a topic I brought up here, about offensive scheme relative to driving to the rim/pressure. I mention previously here that this team makeup and scheme is not design for high level driving to rim. Aka "drive and kick"

I looked up this stat and found the top five teams offenses that drive to the rim the LEAST are;

1. Denver Nuggets
2. Brooklyn Nets
3. Golden State Warriors
4. Miami Heat
5. LA Clippers

The difference between the team who drive the LEAST from the MOST is a whooping difference of 30 drives a game.

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Reletive to this discussion, lets look at the Heat player average drives to the basket

Season average Drives per player -
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1. Jimmy Butler - 13.5
2. Tyler Herro - 11.8
3. Kyle Lowry - 7.2
4. Victor Oladipo - 5.7
5. Gabe Vincent - 5.2
6. Bam Adebayo - 3.6
7. Caleb Martin - 3.1
8. Duncan Robinson - 1.9
9. Max Strus - 1.6
10. P.J. Tucker - 1.1
11. Markief Morris - 0.8
12. Dwayne Dedmon - 0.2

Last 5 games average Drives per player -
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1. Jimmy Butler - 14.8
2. Tyler Herro - 7.8
3. Kyle Lowry - 4.5
4. Caleb Martin - 4.0
5. Gabe Vincent - 3.8
6. Bam Adebayo - 3.0
7. Victor Oladipo - 3.0
8. P.J. Tucker - 1.8
9. Markief Morris - 1.0
10. Max Strus - 1.0
11. Duncan Robinson - 0.4
12. Dwayne Dedmon - 0.0

~For the Year the Heat average 39.9 drives to the basket per game.
~The last 5 games the Heat has average 34.4 drives to the basket per game.

Bam is averaging even less drives per game the last 5 games than his season average. What can we do outside of forcing him, to get BAM to be in our top 3 in drives?

It is all about the attempts. He has taken more jumpers lately but not more shots. This is why I tell people that saying Bam needs to shoot three pointers doesnt mean he is taking more shots. Bam needs to pass less and take more field goal attempts. I would say pass the ball less 4-5 more times a game.

[carnageta]

Having an interesting conversations with a young coach and its about a topic I brought up here, about offensive scheme relative to driving to the rim/pressure. I mention previously here that this team makeup and scheme is not design for high level driving to rim. Aka "drive and kick"

I looked up this stat and found the top five teams offenses that drive to the rim the LEAST are;

1. Denver Nuggets
2. Brooklyn Nets
3. Golden State Warriors
4. Miami Heat
5. LA Clippers

The difference between the team who drive the LEAST from the MOST is a whooping difference of 30 drives a game.

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Reletive to this discussion, lets look at the Heat player average drives to the basket

Season average Drives per player -
__________________________________________
1. Jimmy Butler - 13.5
2. Tyler Herro - 11.8
3. Kyle Lowry - 7.2
4. Victor Oladipo - 5.7
5. Gabe Vincent - 5.2
6. Bam Adebayo - 3.6
7. Caleb Martin - 3.1
8. Duncan Robinson - 1.9
9. Max Strus - 1.6
10. P.J. Tucker - 1.1
11. Markief Morris - 0.8
12. Dwayne Dedmon - 0.2

Last 5 games average Drives per player -
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1. Jimmy Butler - 14.8
2. Tyler Herro - 7.8
3. Kyle Lowry - 4.5
4. Caleb Martin - 4.0
5. Gabe Vincent - 3.8
6. Bam Adebayo - 3.0
7. Victor Oladipo - 3.0
8. P.J. Tucker - 1.8
9. Markief Morris - 1.0
10. Max Strus - 1.0
11. Duncan Robinson - 0.4
12. Dwayne Dedmon - 0.0

~For the Year the Heat average 39.9 drives to the basket per game.
~The last 5 games the Heat has average 34.4 drives to the basket per game.

The heat have been shooting lights out the past couple games from deep, doesn't surprise me at all to see the drive attempts decrease.

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[IceColdCubano]

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Hollinger was smoking refur the night before writing that article.

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Isn't Hollinger the originator of PER? He'll probably do anything possible to keep that flawed stat relevant