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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#321 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Apr 7, 2022 1:19 pm

The funny thing is I kind of knew his name wasn't Moseby!:-)
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#322 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Apr 7, 2022 1:23 pm

The Wizards really should let Bradley Beal walk for nothing and bring Dez Wells from China.

I would trade Kyle kuzma to the Brooklyn Nets for Joe Harris. I think it comes down to choosing hachimura over Kyle because they are pretty similar and I like the chemistry of the young guys. If there is a way to include Isaiah Todd and Vernon Carey to that same idea and to get back they run sharp then the Wizards would have done everything they need to do

I would replace bill with Joe Harris because I know he already has a rapport with Corey kispert. Either one of them can start at shooting guard or small forward and obviously both are fine backups
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#323 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Apr 7, 2022 1:25 pm

That was obviously 3 a.m. eyeball hurting blind Kenneth talking to his tablet
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#324 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Apr 7, 2022 1:41 pm

Sleep is a good thing but sometimes I don't sleep and just rent and rent And you know I said RANT
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#325 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Apr 7, 2022 1:42 pm

The freebie is just Paul Reed possessions per 100 look at his numbers
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#326 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Apr 7, 2022 1:42 pm

Yada yada yada
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#327 » by payitforward » Thu Apr 7, 2022 2:23 pm

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
payitforward wrote:Well, we're winning, & winning makes you feel good about the future.

We closed last season going 17-6, then we opened this season 10-3. I've still got bandages on every place I got burned by that 27-9 stretch! :)

It would be an absolute nightmare if we traded our R1 pick for "a PG."

Brunson?

Assuming Beal @ $40m & that we pick up KCP's option & re-sign Gill for @$2m, we'll be at roughly $124m for 11 players. None of them is a point guard.

Jalen Brunson is a FA & will get a sizable contract, something around $18m. Surely, it would be wise to sign Sato, as many have suggested. Let's assume he'd get $4m.

That would leave us @$2.5m under the luxury tax for 13 players. Now... we do have Dallas' R2 pick, somewhere around #53, so there's a guy we can sign for $1m. Add a veteran minimum player & we slide under the luxury tax.

In which case, essentially, we have the same 35-45 team as this year. Plus Jalen Brunson. No thanks.
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#328 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Apr 7, 2022 2:30 pm

DayRon Sharp is going to be a beast I THINK

Paul Reed could be Ben Wallace/Draymond/defensive Kawhii...dude is a game changer

Philadelphia and Brooklyn have pieces to the Wizards' puzzle.

DAYronSharp

Also

PaulReed

If both Kuz and Brad go to Philly the return ofTobias Harris, Reed, Maxey/Milton? I think works. Can also see fitting Ish Smith instead to Philly ..

Reed plus a guard and Harris

Joe HARRIS also

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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#329 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Apr 7, 2022 2:32 pm

payitforward wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
payitforward wrote:Well, we're winning, & winning makes you feel good about the future.

We closed last season going 17-6, then we opened this season 10-3. I've still got bandages on every place I got burned by that 27-9 stretch! :)

It would be an absolute nightmare if we traded our R1 pick for "a PG."

Brunson?

Assuming Beal @ $40m & that we pick up KCP's option & re-sign Gill for @$2m, we'll be at roughly $124m for 11 players. None of them is a point guard.

Jalen Brunson is a FA & will get a sizable contract, something around $18m. Surely, it would be wise to sign Sato, as many have suggested. Let's assume he'd get $4m.

That would leave us @$2.5m under the luxury tax for 13 players. Now... we do have Dallas' R2 pick, somewhere around #53, so there's a guy we can sign for $1m. Add a veteran minimum player & we slide under the luxury tax.

In which case, essentially, we have the same 35-45 team as this year. Plus Jalen Brunson. No thanks.
I prefer a much cheaper alternative PG:

Delon Wright

He's 6'5" and great defensively. I do not know if the Atlanta Hawks have him under contract but he would fit here

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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#330 » by Ruzious » Thu Apr 7, 2022 2:33 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Ruz, since you're still awake, I apologize for not editing those before you saw that RANT :)

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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#331 » by dckingsfan » Thu Apr 7, 2022 2:37 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I prefer a much cheaper alternative PG:

Delon Wright

He's 6'5" and great defensively. I do not know if the Atlanta Hawks have him under contract but he would fit here

That is who I wanted last season. There would have been a great trade between the Kings and Wizards instead of all our panic moves.

I would still be up for a Wright/Sato PG combo. But this is a stopgap. If we extend Beal - then the rebuild won't happen.
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#332 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Apr 7, 2022 2:42 pm

Ruzious wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Ruz, since you're still awake, I apologize for not editing those before you saw that RANT :)

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No problems - I was only half awake and don't remember seeing anything bad. I've been having sleeping problems lately - gettin older and tryin to stay above ground.
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#333 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Apr 7, 2022 2:43 pm

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I prefer a much cheaper alternative PG:

Delon Wright

He's 6'5" and great defensively. I do not know if the Atlanta Hawks have him under contract but he would fit here

That is who I wanted last season. There would have been a great trade between the Kings and Wizards instead of all our panic moves.

I would still be up for a Wright/Sato PG combo. But this is a stopgap. If we extend Beal - then the rebuild won't happen.
I know we will but I'm assuming we don't extend Bradley bill

Unintended translation error but emails will be called Bradley bill

If I say Jessica bill

Is real deal bill

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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#334 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Apr 7, 2022 2:44 pm

I have no idea how he may as well be got translated into emails B

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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#335 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Thu Apr 7, 2022 4:36 pm

payitforward wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
payitforward wrote:Well, we're winning, & winning makes you feel good about the future.

We closed last season going 17-6, then we opened this season 10-3. I've still got bandages on every place I got burned by that 27-9 stretch! :)

It would be an absolute nightmare if we traded our R1 pick for "a PG."

Brunson?

Assuming Beal @ $40m & that we pick up KCP's option & re-sign Gill for @$2m, we'll be at roughly $124m for 11 players. None of them is a point guard.

Jalen Brunson is a FA & will get a sizable contract, something around $18m. Surely, it would be wise to sign Sato, as many have suggested. Let's assume he'd get $4m.

That would leave us @$2.5m under the luxury tax for 13 players. Now... we do have Dallas' R2 pick, somewhere around #53, so there's a guy we can sign for $1m. Add a veteran minimum player & we slide under the luxury tax.

In which case, essentially, we have the same 35-45 team as this year. Plus Jalen Brunson. No thanks.

Hard to really know where to start to try to answer this post.

You note that the Wizards don't have a PG and are already close to the luxury tax. But you don't want to add a PG while still staying under the tax. :-?

And you maintain that a Beal+KP team is the same as this year's.

Of course, if Beal doesn't re-sign everything is a different story. If you tell me that with no Beal you want to draft this year for development and tank hard in 2022-2023, then ... mkay .. that's a decent plan.

However, I'm working under the assumption that Beal will re-sign (and for the 35% max). In that circumstance, what are you going to do with the FRP that's going to help a Beal/KP centred team more than trading it for Brunson?
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#336 » by DCZards » Thu Apr 7, 2022 5:08 pm

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:Hard to really know where to start to try to answer this post.

You note that the Wizards don't have a PG and are already close to the luxury tax. But you don't want to add a PG while still staying under the tax. :-?

And you maintain that a Beal+KP team is the same as this year's.

Of course, if Beal doesn't re-sign everything is a different story. If you tell me that with no Beal you want to draft this year for development and tank hard in 2022-2023, then ... mkay .. that's a decent plan.

However, I'm working under the assumption that Beal will re-sign (and for the 35% max). In that circumstance, what are you going to do with the FRP that's going to help a Beal/KP centred team more than trading it for Brunson?

You’re right. A Zards team with Beal and KP on the court together, the continued improvement of Rui, Deni and Kispert, and a quality starting PG (like Brunson) is not essentially the same team as this year’s team.

I’m just not convinced that trading the FRP to acquire Brunson is the way to go. Would prefer to keep the pick and try to sign Tyus Jones if Brunson is too expensive.
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#337 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Thu Apr 7, 2022 5:18 pm

Luxury tax is estimated at $148,254,400 by spotrac and the salary cap at $122,000,000.

Beal 42,350,000
Porzingis 33,833,400
KCP 14,004,703
Kuzma 13,000,000
Rui 6,263,188
Avdija 4,916,160
Ish 4,725,000
Kispert 3,552,840
Gafford 1,930,681
Carey 1,782,621
Todd 1,563,518
------- -------------
Sato 4,000,000
Gill 2,000,000
Brunson 18,000,000
------- -------------
Total 142,280,951
------- -------------
Tax line - Total 5,973,449


Assuming you trade for Brunson this season one of those Todd/Cary salaries is traded in the deal. So in reality you are around $7.5m-$7.7m below the tax line with 12 players on the roster.
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#338 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Thu Apr 7, 2022 5:34 pm

DCZards wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:Hard to really know where to start to try to answer this post.

You note that the Wizards don't have a PG and are already close to the luxury tax. But you don't want to add a PG while still staying under the tax. :-?

And you maintain that a Beal+KP team is the same as this year's.

Of course, if Beal doesn't re-sign everything is a different story. If you tell me that with no Beal you want to draft this year for development and tank hard in 2022-2023, then ... mkay .. that's a decent plan.

However, I'm working under the assumption that Beal will re-sign (and for the 35% max). In that circumstance, what are you going to do with the FRP that's going to help a Beal/KP centred team more than trading it for Brunson?

You’re right. A Zards team with Beal and KP on the court together, the continued improvement of Rui, Deni and Kispert, and a quality starting PG (like Brunson) is not essentially the same team as this year’s team.

I’m just not convinced that trading the FRP to acquire Brunson is the way to go. Would prefer to keep the pick and try to sign Tyus Jones if Brunson is too expensive.

Ty Jones is in the last year of a three year deal where he averaged $8.8m/year. This is his best year in the league and he's also shooting a somewhat outlier-ish 39% from 3Pt. How much is he going to make? And how are you going to sign him?
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#339 » by NatP4 » Thu Apr 7, 2022 5:49 pm

I would definitely not trade our 1st for Brunson. Jones at the MLE is a way better option.
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#340 » by 9 and 20 » Thu Apr 7, 2022 7:26 pm

Gafford and Zingus playing together - does that change anything? Maybe it makes room for Bryant to come back? Doubt it, but it does mean we may need a decent third string center. Embiid-slayer Gafzingus takeover begins.

Also, maybe less room for one of the forwards. So either Kuzma or Rui getting sent out is more likely now. I'm good with it. Kuzma occasionally going off for 25 and 7 but more often wild flailing is entertaining but not really winning basketball. Rui can only be good at 1 thing at a time. Last year, it was shoulder bump at the key, jumper. This year, it's open 3's. Get me some better basketball players, Terd, or get lost.
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