2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2.0

[Morris_Shatford]

To save everyone time to not bother scouting anyone who isn't 6' 8" or 6' 9" who may be available around our pick below are the guys who seem to be available from 24 to 60 in our height range

Patrick Baldwin (SF/PF)
Trayce Jackson-Davis (PF)
Julian Champagnie (SF)
Oscar Tshiebwe (PF/C)
Gabe Brown (SF)
Michael Foster (PF)
Brady Manek (PF/C)
Kendall Brown (SF/PF)

[Lord_Zedd]

To save everyone time to not bother scouting anyone who isn't 6' 8" or 6' 9" who may be available around our pick below are the guys who seem to be available from 24 to 60 in our height range

Patrick Baldwin (SF/PF)
Trayce Jackson-Davis (PF)
Julian Champagnie (SF)
Oscar Tshiebwe (PF/C)
Gabe Brown (SF)
Michael Foster (PF)
Brady Manek (PF/C)
Kendall Brown (SF/PF)

Slightly OT but I had no idea Patrick Baldwin dropped so much. Earlier in the year we were talking about him being a top 10 pick. Now, I didn't expect he can be had for our 33rd.

[Morris_Shatford]

To save everyone time to not bother scouting anyone who isn't 6' 8" or 6' 9" who may be available around our pick below are the guys who seem to be available from 24 to 60 in our height range

Patrick Baldwin (SF/PF)
Trayce Jackson-Davis (PF)
Julian Champagnie (SF)
Oscar Tshiebwe (PF/C)
Gabe Brown (SF)
Michael Foster (PF)
Brady Manek (PF/C)
Kendall Brown (SF/PF)

Slightly OT but I had no idea Patrick Baldwin dropped so much. Earlier in the year we were talking about him being a top 10 pick. Now, I didn't expect he can be had for our 33rd.

I looked at five of the mocks that I generally look at over the course of a season;
Baldwin was all over the place.

As high as 14 and as low as 30;
Assuming the latter is correct its not outside the realm of possibility. I generally just took these draft and took anyone in our height range who was between 24 - 60 on any two mocks.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

To save everyone time to not bother scouting anyone who isn't 6' 8" or 6' 9" who may be available around our pick below are the guys who seem to be available from 24 to 60 in our height range

Patrick Baldwin (SF/PF)
Trayce Jackson-Davis (PF)
Julian Champagnie (SF)
Oscar Tshiebwe (PF/C)
Gabe Brown (SF)
Michael Foster (PF)
Brady Manek (PF/C)
Kendall Brown (SF/PF)

Slightly OT but I had no idea Patrick Baldwin dropped so much. Earlier in the year we were talking about him being a top 10 pick. Now, I didn't expect he can be had for our 33rd.

I looked at five of the mocks that I generally look at over the course of a season;
Baldwin was all over the place.

As high as 14 and as low as 30;
Assuming the latter is correct its not outside the realm of possibility. I generally just took these draft and took anyone in our height range who was between 24 - 60 on any two mocks.

Julian Champagnie is our Champagnie's brother right?

[BoyzNTheHood]

Slightly OT but I had no idea Patrick Baldwin dropped so much. Earlier in the year we were talking about him being a top 10 pick. Now, I didn't expect he can be had for our 33rd.

I looked at five of the mocks that I generally look at over the course of a season;
Baldwin was all over the place.

As high as 14 and as low as 30;
Assuming the latter is correct its not outside the realm of possibility. I generally just took these draft and took anyone in our height range who was between 24 - 60 on any two mocks.

Julian Champagnie is our Champagnie's brother right?

Yes. They're twins.

[Ell Curry]

To save everyone time to not bother scouting anyone who isn't 6' 8" or 6' 9" who may be available around our pick below are the guys who seem to be available from 24 to 60 in our height range

Patrick Baldwin (SF/PF)
Trayce Jackson-Davis (PF)
Julian Champagnie (SF)
Oscar Tshiebwe (PF/C)
Gabe Brown (SF)
Michael Foster (PF)
Brady Manek (PF/C)
Kendall Brown (SF/PF)

Trayce Jackson-Davis seems like a late 2nd rounder, but he's interesting as a more skilled Birch type on offense.

Gabe Brown looks like an NBA wing in theory and he's at 38% from 3 on meh volume and 89% from the line and hits 3s, so even though he's meh pretty much whenever you watch him, it's easy to see him playing for us as a bigger Armoni Brooks. I'm not capable of evaluating jumpers so don't know if he can become a higher volume and it was just Izzo not pushing him to get 7-8 3s up a game. If he shoots it in workouts as well as his numbers suggest, he'll probably not go much lower than our pick. 22 years old and can't create his own offense, but we'd take a defensively above average 38^

Tshiebwe I haven't seen enough of and he's probably too slow for our defensive style, but he is an all-time rebounder and we do sometimes struggle at that when Birch isn't out there.

Kendall Brown I think we'd take for sure but he won't fall to us. He had a decent season overall and he's 18 and an NBA sized wing. Be shocked if say Memphis passed on him with their 2 late first, or the Heat or some other team that trust their development process.

Manek I don't think is an NBA guy.

Foster haven't seen. Champagnie either, though the latter's stat sheet looks real nice.

[alpngso]

What's the value for OG if he gets trade for a pick straight up? would it be around 10th pick of the draft? i guess it also depends on the strength of the draft class

Let say the Pacers end up with 8th pick this year, is OG for 8th pick too rich or too cheap? Draft maybe Sharpe with that pick

[earth007]

I have a feeling we are gonna draft Yannick Nzosa, assuming he doesn't picked till the 2nd round and he decides to declare for this draft. Most of the mock drafts project him to go undrafted, but we all know how wrong most of the mocks have been for the last decade or so. He just looks like a piece Masai and Webster would like to have on the team.

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[Tripod]

What's the value for OG if he gets trade for a pick straight up? would it be around 10th pick of the draft? i guess it also depends on the strength of the draft class

Let say the Pacers end up with 8th pick this year, is OG for 8th pick too rich or too cheap? Draft maybe Sharpe with that pick

We are trying to win. Why would we trade our best defender and a 3 pt shooter we need, for a pick?

[Madhouse]

What's the value for OG if he gets trade for a pick straight up? would it be around 10th pick of the draft? i guess it also depends on the strength of the draft class

Let say the Pacers end up with 8th pick this year, is OG for 8th pick too rich or too cheap? Draft maybe Sharpe with that pick

We are trying to win. Why would we trade our best defender and a 3 pt shooter we need, for a pick?

We aren't trading Precious

[alpngso]

What's the value for OG if he gets trade for a pick straight up? would it be around 10th pick of the draft? i guess it also depends on the strength of the draft class

Let say the Pacers end up with 8th pick this year, is OG for 8th pick too rich or too cheap? Draft maybe Sharpe with that pick

We are trying to win. Why would we trade our best defender and a 3 pt shooter we need, for a pick?

in the end i feel like they will have to narrow it down to 2 of Siakam Barnes and OG. Feel like OG might be the odd man out. not right now but maybe 1.5 years down the future

[bstein14]

If he ends up declaring for the draft, Canadian Caleb Houston would be an interesting pick in that range for sure. He was HS teammates with Barnes (and Cade) and he had a somewhat disappointing Freshman year at University of Michigan this season but I still think he's got an NBA skillset. He just isn't likely to be a rotation player in year one.

[Sticks]

What's the value for OG if he gets trade for a pick straight up? would it be around 10th pick of the draft? i guess it also depends on the strength of the draft class

Let say the Pacers end up with 8th pick this year, is OG for 8th pick too rich or too cheap? Draft maybe Sharpe with that pick

OG has more value than that.

3 & D wing, young, great attitude and amazing contract locked up for the next few years. Hes worth more than just an 8th pick in this draft

[Madhouse]

What's the value for OG if he gets trade for a pick straight up? would it be around 10th pick of the draft? i guess it also depends on the strength of the draft class

Let say the Pacers end up with 8th pick this year, is OG for 8th pick too rich or too cheap? Draft maybe Sharpe with that pick

OG has more value than that.

3 & D wing, young, great attitude and amazing contract locked up for the next few years. Hes worth more than just an 8th pick in this draft

agreed, we need ready now players

[billy_hoyle]

What's the value for OG if he gets trade for a pick straight up? would it be around 10th pick of the draft? i guess it also depends on the strength of the draft class

Let say the Pacers end up with 8th pick this year, is OG for 8th pick too rich or too cheap? Draft maybe Sharpe with that pick

OG has more value than that.

3 & D wing, young, great attitude and amazing contract locked up for the next few years. Hes worth more than just an 8th pick in this draft

Personally, I think that's about the right value (~8th pick).

You're not getting a top 5 pick. Look at this past draft.
Would the Cavs, Raps or, Pistons trade Mobley, Barnes or Cade for him. Absolutely not.

Would Franz Wagner be traded for OG, maybe, but Orlando probably doesn't do that trade, would Golden State for Kuminga? Maybe, but probably not. So, the 5 -10 range last year was too high, but that was a strong draft. We don't actually know how good this draft class is, and won't know until they play.

In this draft, I don't think you get Chet, Smith, Ivey, Banchero. I can see a team trading Sharpe, or Mathurin for OG.

From our perspective, those two are both possible primary shot creators, so if they pass the Masai sniff test, then ya...maybe we make that trade. And maybe the Pelicans or trailblazers want the sure thing elite 3+D wing .

[Sticks]

What's the value for OG if he gets trade for a pick straight up? would it be around 10th pick of the draft? i guess it also depends on the strength of the draft class

Let say the Pacers end up with 8th pick this year, is OG for 8th pick too rich or too cheap? Draft maybe Sharpe with that pick

OG has more value than that.

3 & D wing, young, great attitude and amazing contract locked up for the next few years. Hes worth more than just an 8th pick in this draft

Personally, I think that's about the right value (~8th pick).

You're not getting a top 5 pick. Look at this past draft.
Would the Cavs, Raps or, Pistons trade Mobley, Barnes or Cade for him. Absolutely not.

Would Franz Wagner be traded for OG, maybe, but Orlando probably doesn't do that trade, would Golden State for Kuminga? Maybe, but probably not. So, the 5 -10 range last year was too high, but that was a strong draft. We don't actually know how good this draft class is, and won't know until they play.

In this draft, I don't think you get Chet, Smith, Ivey, Banchero. I can see a team trading Sharpe, or Mathurin for OG.

From our perspective, those two are both possible primary shot creators, so if they pass the Masai sniff test, then ya...maybe we make that trade. And maybe the Pelicans or trailblazers want the sure thing elite 3+D wing .

Heres all the the recent 8th picks. OG on his contract is def worth a lot more than an 8th overall.

2021 Franz Wagner
2020 Obi Toppin
2019 Jaxson Hayes, Texas – New Orleans Pelicans
2018 Collin Sexton, Alabama – Cleveland Cavaliers
2017 Frank Ntilikina, France – New York Knicks
2016 Marquese Chriss, Washington – Sacramento Kings
2015 Stanley Johnson, Arizona – Detroit Pistons
2014 Nik Stauskas, Michigan – Sacramento Kings
2013 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Georgia – Detroit Pistons
2012 Terrence Ross, Washington – Toronto Raptors
2011 Brandon Knight, Kentucky – Detroit Pistons
2010 Al-Farouq Aminu, Wake Forest – L.A. Clippers

[Los_29]

Wouldn't make much sense for the Raptors to trade a guy like OG for someone they'd have to develop over the next 2-3 years. I think they have their eyes set on competing and Masai has never been the guy to trade for picks. In fact, I don't think he's ever traded into the lottery.

It goes back that Family Guy clip. Do you want a boat or a mystery box? LOL.

[tecumseh18]

You're not getting a top 5 pick. Look at this past draft.
Would the Cavs, Raps or, Pistons trade Mobley, Barnes or Cade for him. Absolutely not.

Nice job cherry picking your drafts. 2021 may turn out to be the best/deepest draft of all time. 2003 had four HOFers at the top, and then not much. I think a team would trade TJ Ford for OG.

But even then, GSW would trade JK for OG in a heartbeat. Orlando and OKC don't seem to care about winning, so they probably wouldn't trade Wagner or Giddey. But I would. OG's only 24 years old. Perfect complement to SGA and Dort.

[Madhouse]

You're not getting a top 5 pick. Look at this past draft.
Would the Cavs, Raps or, Pistons trade Mobley, Barnes or Cade for him. Absolutely not.

Nice job cherry picking your drafts. 2021 may turn out to be the best/deepest draft of all time. 2003 had four HOFers at the top, and then not much. I think a team would trade TJ Ford for OG.

But even then, GSW would trade JK for OG in a heartbeat. Orlando and OKC don't seem to care about winning, so they probably wouldn't trade Wagner or Giddey. But I would. OG's only 24 years old. Perfect complement to SGA and Dort.

Kuminga for OG?

I'm not too sure if they would do it. Kuminga has the higher ceiling.

[tecumseh18]

You're not getting a top 5 pick. Look at this past draft.
Would the Cavs, Raps or, Pistons trade Mobley, Barnes or Cade for him. Absolutely not.

Nice job cherry picking your drafts. 2021 may turn out to be the best/deepest draft of all time. 2003 had four HOFers at the top, and then not much. I think a team would trade TJ Ford for OG.

But even then, GSW would trade JK for OG in a heartbeat. Orlando and OKC don't seem to care about winning, so they probably wouldn't trade Wagner or Giddey. But I would. OG's only 24 years old. Perfect complement to SGA and Dort.

Kuminga for OG?

I'm not too sure if they would do it. Kuminga has the higher ceiling.

Sure, but Warriors are in win-now mode. OG (who's still relatively young) is the type of player that would really help the Dubs this season.