2021-22 NBA scoring title watch

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Who will win the scoring title?

LeBron
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Giannis
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29%
Embiid
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39%
 
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Re: Who will win the scoring title? 

Post#61 » by Ambrose » Thu Apr 7, 2022 5:26 pm

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Sofia wrote:Joel Embiid - 30.42
[Remaining games: @TOR, IND, DET (B2B)]

Indiana played like they forgot they are supposed to be tanking and made it closer than it needed to be, pushing the Sixers to 7 lead changes and even leading for 5 minutes of the game. Embiid's big 45 points in 39 minutes carried them to a win, and him to the top of the scoring leader board.

Sixers have locked in the 2-4 seed at this point, tied with the Celtics and Bucks at 49-30. I don't think any of these teams will care too strongly care about positioning now that they have first round home court, though the Raptors will be plucky from the 5th/6th seed. I would think that Embiid likely sits at least one, if not both the back to back games after having played more minutes and games than any other season in his career to date.

Lebron James - 30.27**
[Remaining games: @GSW, OKC(B2B), @DEN]
**2 games to qualify
Unlikely to play. Plenty of coverage on the rest of the GB. What a trash season for the Lakers.

He tweeted a few days ago that he is out for the season, before the Spurs won their last 2 games and secured the play in, so there may be more to the ankle injury than we know about? Who knows. They need to use the summer to nuke the franchise - spill and fill every position on the court and in the office and start from scratch. Where's Hinkie at?

Giannis Antetokounmpo - 30.27**
[Remaining games: BOS, @DET (B2B), @CLE]
Come on son, do you even want this ****? Cruise control against the Bulls in a 21 point win, in which Freak dropped 18 points in 24 minutes. Foul trouble aside, he likely wasn't playing much today anyway.

Important match up vs the Celtics to determine positioning, followed by a likely a night off in Detroit, and maybe a handful of minutes in Cleveland. If he does see the court in Cleveland, he would want to hope it's kept close and they go for the win, limited minutes like today will knock him from the race.

Lebron needs to score 40 in his next game to take the lead.
Giannis needs to score 65 in his next game to take the lead.
Embiid needs to score 19 points or less in his next game to lose the lead to Lebron**.
**Lebron needs 2 more games to qualify

It’s Embiid’s to lose, as well as #2 in the East, as well as MVP.

Just win out, get that #2 seed, win scoring title, and get ready for play-offs.


Embiid isn't winning MVP dawg. He might not even be All NBA 1st Team.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA scoring title watch 

Post#62 » by LordCovington33 » Thu Apr 7, 2022 6:33 pm

Hyaena wrote:I get the feeling Giannis is the type to not really care about these accolades. He always talks about focusing on the process rather than the outcome, being present, not thinking about the future, etc.

I think the only thing on his mind is to keep getting better every day and then trust the results are for the best. They've yielded him a title along with many other awards as a by-product, so it seems his recipe is working. Process thinking.

Anyway - I voted LeBron, but now think Embiid might end up with it.


I think they care a little because it forms part of their legacy, post-retirement.

Being both the DOPY and the Scoring Champion shows accomplishment both sides of the ball.
The more the accolades (in addition to MVP, finals MVP, first team, etc), the stronger the argument
to have him Top 20 all time when all is said and done.

I get that Giannis sat during the blow-out win, but other players have done the same. Embiid very recently sat the entire 4th quarter. It happens. Good for the big man to get rest. He’d appreciate that because there are bigger fish to fry, but the scoring champ is a nice accomplishment to have as well.
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Re: Who will win the scoring title? 

Post#63 » by jokeboy86 » Thu Apr 7, 2022 8:15 pm

Sofia wrote:
Pachinko_ wrote:Is that award per game or totals?

No one cares about single season totals, champ


I do. If someone puts up 2,800 points in a season (or by some miracle 3k) I'm thoroughly impressed. I didn't have him winning MVP but what Harden did in '19 and not even playing the full 82 was remarkable.
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Re: Who will win the scoring title? 

Post#64 » by ken6199 » Thu Apr 7, 2022 8:56 pm

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Sofia wrote:
Pachinko_ wrote:Is that award per game or totals?

No one cares about single season totals, champ


I do. If someone puts up 2,800 points in a season (or by some miracle 3k) I'm thoroughly impressed. I didn't have him winning MVP but what Harden did in '19 and not even playing the full 82 was remarkable.


I love totals too. Totals are nice, they reflect consistency, robustness, and availability. It's a long season and most likely you have to play through various minor injuries to achieve good totals. That's why win shares are also important. Same thing with MVP - being available for your team is one of the most important things. Plus it irons out those outliers like someone goes out of the game in the first 2 minutes with a twisted ankle to hurt their PPG.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA scoring title watch 

Post#65 » by Ballerhogger » Fri Apr 8, 2022 12:00 am

lebron .1 behind embiid is embiid playing play until the post season?
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Re: 2021-22 NBA scoring title watch 

Post#66 » by Sofia » Fri Apr 8, 2022 6:39 am

Joel Embiid - 30.42
[Remaining games: IND, DET (B2B)]

Scored 30 in a disappointing loss to the Raps as all the Sixers starters play 37+ minutes. Maybe they should have brought Thybulle across the borde.. oh wait... nope. nvm.

2 easy games left for the Sixers, but they need to win one of them to secure that top 4 spot after Raps took the tiebreaker today.

It's looking very likely that Sixers Raps will be the 4v5 match up, nothing easy there. Sixers better hope Doc doesn't find a way to be outcoached again.

Lebron James - 30.27**
[Remaining games: OKC(B2B), @DEN]
**Needs to play both games to qualify
Unlikely to play. Plenty of coverage on the rest of the GB. What a trash season for the Lakers.

Giannis Antetokounmpo - 29.88
[Remaining games: @DET(B2B), @CLE]

Consistent as ever, Giannis gets 29, 11 & 5 in 38 minutes. They might as well just write that in the box score before the games are played. Easy run home but he probably doesn't need to play them.

They play tomorrow, so I'd expect a day off against Detroit. I think they'd be pretty happy if they can sneak into the 3 seed and take on the Chicago Flounder Bulls in the 1st round, and let the Celtics deal with what is looking likely to be a 7 seed Nets after the Play In.

Lebron needs to score 40 in his next game to take the lead.
Giannis needs to score 66 in his next game to take the lead.
Embiid needs to score 20 points or less in his next game to lose the lead to Lebron**.
**Lebron needs 2 more games to qualify
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Re: 2021-22 NBA scoring title watch 

Post#67 » by BoatsNZones » Fri Apr 8, 2022 7:04 am

Sofia wrote:Joel Embiid - 30.42
[Remaining games: IND, DET (B2B)]

Scored 30 in a disappointing loss to the Raps as all the Sixers starters play 37+ minutes. Maybe they should have brought Thybulle across the borde.. oh wait... nope. nvm.

2 easy games left for the Sixers, but they need to win one of them to secure that top 4 spot after Raps took the tiebreaker today.

It's looking very likely that Sixers Raps will be the 4v5 match up, nothing easy there. Sixers better hope Doc doesn't find a way to be outcoached again.

Lebron James - 30.27**
[Remaining games: OKC(B2B), @DEN]
**Needs to play both games to qualify
Unlikely to play. Plenty of coverage on the rest of the GB. What a trash season for the Lakers.

Giannis Antetokounmpo - 29.88
[Remaining games: @DET(B2B), @CLE]

Consistent as ever, Giannis gets 29, 11 & 5 in 38 minutes. They might as well just write that in the box score before the games are played. Easy run home but he probably doesn't need to play them.

They play tomorrow, so I'd expect a day off against Detroit. I think they'd be pretty happy if they can sneak into the 3 seed and take on the Chicago Flounder Bulls in the 1st round, and let the Celtics deal with what is looking likely to be a 7 seed Nets after the Play In.

Lebron needs to score 40 in his next game to take the lead.
Giannis needs to score 66 in his next game to take the lead.
Embiid needs to score 20 points or less in his next game to lose the lead to Lebron**.
**Lebron needs 2 more games to qualify

Just to clarify, Lebron is qualified, but he will lose about 0.5 pt average for each remaining game (and lose by default).

Scoring titles really hold very little prestige regardless. They only made it seem relevant this year for Lebron.
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Post#68 » by BallerTalk » Fri Apr 8, 2022 7:18 am

BoatsNZones wrote:Just to clarify, Lebron is qualified, but he will lose about 0.5 pt average for each remaining game (and lose by default).

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Re: 2021-22 NBA scoring title watch 

Post#69 » by Sofia » Fri Apr 8, 2022 7:36 am

BallerTalk wrote:
BoatsNZones wrote:Just to clarify, Lebron is qualified, but he will lose about 0.5 pt average for each remaining game (and lose by default).

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It's true and something I didn't really cover off on (see the Durant example on previous pages on how a player can qualify if they don't play the minimum 58 games), but it's still mathematically impossible for Lebron to take the lead without playing games.

If Embiid scores 0 points, in both of his remaining games, he will have an average of 29.54.

If Lebron doesn't play, his total points for the season divided by the qualifying number (1695 / 58) will only bring him to 29.22.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA scoring title watch 

Post#70 » by Ursusamericanus » Fri Apr 8, 2022 10:40 am

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Hyaena wrote:I get the feeling Giannis is the type to not really care about these accolades. He always talks about focusing on the process rather than the outcome, being present, not thinking about the future, etc.

I think the only thing on his mind is to keep getting better every day and then trust the results are for the best. They've yielded him a title along with many other awards as a by-product, so it seems his recipe is working. Process thinking.

Anyway - I voted LeBron, but now think Embiid might end up with it.


I think they care a little because it forms part of their legacy, post-retirement.

Being both the DOPY and the Scoring Champion shows accomplishment both sides of the ball.
The more the accolades (in addition to MVP, finals MVP, first team, etc), the stronger the argument
to have him Top 20 all time when all is said and done.

I get that Giannis sat during the blow-out win, but other players have done the same. Embiid very recently sat the entire 4th quarter. It happens. Good for the big man to get rest. He’d appreciate that because there are bigger fish to fry, but the scoring champ is a nice accomplishment to have as well.


Good timing - around 11:25 in this video he's asked precisely about that (caring about the scoring title) and he talks about it being a distraction and something he couldn't care less about. Real interesting, I love his mentality. He clearly just doesn't give a ****. Only cares about the endless process of improvement, not accolades or outcomes (though, with his mindset and abilities, he gets those as a side effect anyway).

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Re: 2021-22 NBA scoring title watch 

Post#71 » by LordCovington33 » Fri Apr 8, 2022 12:21 pm

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Hyaena wrote:I get the feeling Giannis is the type to not really care about these accolades. He always talks about focusing on the process rather than the outcome, being present, not thinking about the future, etc.

I think the only thing on his mind is to keep getting better every day and then trust the results are for the best. They've yielded him a title along with many other awards as a by-product, so it seems his recipe is working. Process thinking.

Anyway - I voted LeBron, but now think Embiid might end up with it.


I think they care a little because it forms part of their legacy, post-retirement.

Being both the DOPY and the Scoring Champion shows accomplishment both sides of the ball.
The more the accolades (in addition to MVP, finals MVP, first team, etc), the stronger the argument
to have him Top 20 all time when all is said and done.

I get that Giannis sat during the blow-out win, but other players have done the same. Embiid very recently sat the entire 4th quarter. It happens. Good for the big man to get rest. He’d appreciate that because there are bigger fish to fry, but the scoring champ is a nice accomplishment to have as well.


Good timing - around 11:25 in this video he's asked precisely about that (caring about the scoring title) and he talks about it being a distraction and something he couldn't care less about. Real interesting, I love his mentality. He clearly just doesn't give a ****. Only cares about the endless process of improvement, not accolades or outcomes (though, with his mindset and abilities, he gets those as a side effect anyway).



What they say and how they feel don’t always match. You expect him to say him is aiming for that scoring title? Of course he won’t say. It’s quite naive to think he doesn’t know he is averaging 30 PPG - as mentioned by another person in this thread
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Re: Who will win the scoring title? 

Post#72 » by KrAzY3 » Fri Apr 8, 2022 5:02 pm

Asian Celtic wrote:The one whose after more individual accolades.

Lebron James.

He's got to play the last two games after sitting against two good defenses.
I think we know he will...
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Re: 2021-22 NBA scoring title watch 

Post#73 » by LordCovington33 » Fri Apr 8, 2022 5:24 pm

Lebron ruled out for the rest of the season
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Post#74 » by bisme37 » Fri Apr 8, 2022 5:46 pm

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Post#75 » by dWadeOwnzYou » Fri Apr 8, 2022 5:50 pm

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Post#76 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Apr 8, 2022 6:15 pm

Giannis has scored under 30 in each of the last 3 games while averaging 18 FGA's per game in that span. He clearly doesn't give a **** about the scoring title.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA scoring title watch 

Post#77 » by JoeyLightYears » Fri Apr 8, 2022 6:35 pm

LordCovington33 wrote:Lebron ruled out for the rest of the season

And you wont hear a peep about this from any of the clowns who were so convinced he was sitting out specific games for some weird agenda to win a meaningless scoring title.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA scoring title watch 

Post#78 » by MindState » Fri Apr 8, 2022 6:48 pm

Can someone help me understand the scoring title requirements?

Is LeBron completely out of the running due to not playing enough games? Or is he still eligible somehow?
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Post#79 » by timO » Fri Apr 8, 2022 6:59 pm

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Re: 2021-22 NBA scoring title watch 

Post#80 » by timO » Fri Apr 8, 2022 7:00 pm

MindState wrote:Can someone help me understand the scoring title requirements?

Is LeBron completely out of the running due to not playing enough games? Or is he still eligible somehow?


58 games to qualify, bron has 56, hes out of the race.

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