Kawhi undergoes surgery for partial ACL tear

madmaxmedia · Post #101 » by **madmaxmedia** » Thu Apr 7, 2022 11:45 pm

It's only a curse if you believe in it, that's when a curse can become real.

Otherwise it's just a meaningless narrative that doesn't matter in the present.

nickhx2 · Post #102 » by **nickhx2** » Thu Apr 7, 2022 11:53 pm

people who have an inability to think rationally tend to cling to narratives such as curses

KL2 · Post #103 » by **KL2** » Fri Apr 8, 2022 8:28 pm

Yeah he’s not coming back this season. Wish they’d just announce it.

Lue said he hasn’t progressed beyond individual workouts.

Jackson said even though they don’t have him on the court his being around the team brings energy.

esqtvd · Post #104 » by **esqtvd** » Fri Apr 8, 2022 8:52 pm

KL2 wrote:Yeah he’s not coming back this season. Wish they’d just announce it.

Lue said he hasn’t progressed beyond individual workouts.

Jackson said even though they don’t have him on the court his being around the team brings energy.

nothing to read into this--Clippers mouths always tight as a drum

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Conference Finals don't start until May 17-18--5+ more weeks :wink:

nickhx2 · Post #105 » by **nickhx2** » Fri Apr 8, 2022 8:53 pm

Wammy Giveaway · Post #106 » by **Wammy Giveaway** » Fri Apr 8, 2022 9:12 pm

KL2 wrote:Yeah he’s not coming back this season. Wish they’d just announce it.

No. If they do that, it will make opponents believe that Clippers are beatable. Don't give your opponents any advantages, no matter how honest you want to be.

Staying silent, dodging answers and being wishy-washy gives Clippers a psychological edge. Like I said in some form at the beginning of the season, it keeps opponents guessing, and by the time they want answers or happen to know the answer, it'll be too late.

MartinToVaught · Post #107 » by **MartinToVaught** » Fri Apr 8, 2022 9:37 pm

I've never expected him to be back this season, and even if he is, the ship had realistically already sailed on him coming back before the playoffs. This honestly isn't news.

nickhx2 · Post #108 » by **nickhx2** » Fri Apr 8, 2022 9:39 pm

for once i agree with wammy

KL2 · Post #109 » by **KL2** » Fri Apr 8, 2022 9:42 pm

Wow. Am I the only person who doesn’t think a team is sitting around wringing their hands on how to prepare for a Clippers team with or without Leonard?

nickhx2 · Post #110 » by **nickhx2** » Fri Apr 8, 2022 10:37 pm

i think you're the only one who is constantly putting themselves into a state of consternation about what ty lue says on this day or that day on whether this player or that player will return

marking kawhi out just to appease yours or any other fan's anxieties isn't going to positively impact the team.

madmaxmedia · Post #111 » by **madmaxmedia** » Fri Apr 8, 2022 11:03 pm

KL2 wrote:Wow. Am I the only person who doesn’t think a team is sitting around wringing their hands on how to prepare for a Clippers team with or without Leonard?

Do you think Kawhi and the Clipper org have completely ruled his return out this season? If they haven't 100% made that decision yet, then they are doing exactly what they should be doing- keeping it mum. There's no benefit of saying anything else.

Maybe the timing is such that he'd only return if we made it to the 2nd round, or even the conference finals. But as long as there's some plausible scenario for him to return this year, then if you're the Clippers you don't say anything.

Just a couple of weeks ago most Clipper fans didn't expect anyone back. We're 2 out of 3 so far, so we're ahead of the game in my book.

KL2 · Post #112 » by **KL2** » Sat Apr 9, 2022 12:06 am

I don’t have anxiety about it. It feels a lot like when they kept saying he could return during the playoffs last year despite knowing he had a torn ACL and would need surgery.

At least we have another new shoe.

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Dynamix · Post #113 » by **Dynamix** » Sat Apr 9, 2022 3:28 am

First off, Ty clearly has many other things on his mind right now, between the play-in and a potential first round, so he doesn't need any more what-ifs to juggle. Poor guy looks like he hasn't slept in weeks, hope someone pays attention to his health, since he's had fatigue issues before.

Having said that, I don't think these vague answers are just to keep everyone else guessing. Kawhi might actually be close enough with his rehab that a return sometime during the playoffs could still be possible. If the team somehow advances and we're still in it a month from now, then he gets cleared by the training staff and wants to be out there, no one else is going to stop him. And if he looks at least 50% as good as PG/Norm did when they returned (obviously different injuries/situations), he could definitely help the team, even on a minutes restriction.

Hope we can make it far enough that "Kawhi coming back" remains a hot topic. Oh, and I'll just leave this here:

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wco81 · Post #114 » by **wco81** » Sat Apr 9, 2022 10:51 pm

They won't risk his recovery on the Play In game, which could be anyone's game.

Clippers have the playoffs experience but George, Powell and Covington haven't played with the rest of the rotation for a long time.

But Wolves are full of high lotto picks who are capable of going off as well as rotation players like Beverly, Reid, Vanderbilt and Beasley.

Guess Lue will have to prove his coaching chops by using the right lineups.

If and when the Clippers get into an actual series, there might be more pressure to see if Kawhi can get back, depending on how the first couple of games go.

George is 31 (turning 32 next month) and KL is turning 31 at the end of June. So they have at least their remaining contract to be productive players -- all NBA level. It's their third year on the Clippers, they probably thought they'd have reached the Finals at least once by now.

But since both are under contract for several more years, seems unlikely Kawhi will play unless he's absolutely ready or the team is able to get very far without him, like reach the WCF at least.

Post #115 » by **og15** » Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:26 am

KL2 wrote:I don’t have anxiety about it. It feels a lot like when they kept saying he could return during the playoffs last year despite knowing he had a torn ACL and would need surgery.

At least we have another new shoe.

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Remember there's the whole thing about Kawhi being private and not wanting anyone to know his business, so I'm pretty sure that plays a part in them not saying much.

KL2 · Post #116 » by **KL2** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:26 pm

Who the hell is this guy? Sounds like a rehash of his situation with the Spurs.

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Clemenza · Post #117 » by **Clemenza** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:00 pm

KL2 wrote:Who the hell is this guy? Sounds like a rehash of his situation with the Spurs.

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Getting tired of this bullsh*t. Trade him in the offseason if they can't get this situation corrected

KL2 · Post #118 » by **KL2** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:10 pm

Sounds like this guy posts a lot of false stuff. People are now finding his old tweets and it’s clear he knows nothing.

wco81 · Post #119 » by **wco81** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:08 pm

Individual cases are different but Nuggets have all but ruled out Murray, who ruptured his ACL at the end of the regular season last year, vs. Kawhi being injured well into the playoffs and then for a couple of weeks not acknowledging it? Seems like he had his surgery at least a couple of weeks after it occurred too, so like last June?

So he shouldn't be expected to return in the playoffs either.

MartinToVaught · Post #120 » by **MartinToVaught** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:21 pm

Just what we need right now, more drama created where none exists.

I don't get why people act like Kawhi being injured is some sort of character flaw. He is not pulling a Ben Simmons, he tore his ACL on a freak play and physically couldn't play this season, but the media makes it sound like he's quitting and collecting money for nothing. It's absurd. Nobody else gets treated this way just for being injured. We don't see these clickbait stories about Jamal Murray, for instance.