The Official Fire Doc Rivers Thread

[M2J]

Recently started for teams that realized just how cooked DAJ is and dumped him, not many years ago Paul Milsap was a good player, it doesn’t mean he is now. Jordan is beyond awful, he can’t even set a pick without committing an offensive foul. There is no veteran upside with a guy that played 95% on physical attributes. As slow and earthbound as Milsap is, when he plays you see a fundamentally sound guy, Jordan is just run and jump. So either play Milsap or one of the young guys who can still run and jump and play with energy.

I don't really care about that. But, we're supposed to want to fire an overachieving coach for no other reason than because we want to see Paul Reed produce as little or less.... But it's okay because he's developing? Maybe.... Developing? If it weren't this issue, it would be because we want to see how awful Isiah Joe does with minutes..... Because " I don't know, but he sure can stroke it and defend in garbage time".

Is it because Doc....is a black guy? A great point was just brought up about this.

I mean when you think about it, there are a lot of people asking for Mike D'Antoni who's known for only playing 6 or 7 players... I will probably play Tobias at backup center

Just wondering if you are aware of Glenn’s career record?

Yes he's one of the best coaches in the league. Former championship coach. Voted top 15 all time by a panel of former coaches to commemorate the NBA's 75th anniversary. Had 2 overachieving seasons with the 76ers.

Everybody hates their coach... I've seen better reasons than Paul Reed. As someone that's not tied to this team or any other...Count your blessings Docs your coach. There's a more than 50% chance that Embiid would be on his way out or gone already if it weren't for Doc last year and this season.

[mjkvol]

I don't really care about that. But, we're supposed to want to fire an overachieving coach for no other reason than because we want to see Paul Reed produce as little or less.... But it's okay because he's developing? Maybe.... Developing? If it weren't this issue, it would be because we want to see how awful Isiah Joe does with minutes..... Because " I don't know, but he sure can stroke it and defend in garbage time".

Is it because Doc....is a black guy? A great point was just brought up about this.

I mean when you think about it, there are a lot of people asking for Mike D'Antoni who's known for only playing 6 or 7 players... I will probably play Tobias at backup center

First of all, please lose the black/white thing. Can there ever be a discussion without that becoming the issue?

I don't give a rat's ass if Glenn is green, blue, white, black, or whatever, but in what universe is he an 'overachieving' coach?

The black/white thing was a joke that I didn't bring up.... See previous 2 posts.

Competing for the 1st seed without Ben Simmons, and winning the first seed last year when you were picked to finish 6th, and you had major injuries to your best player.... Overachieving

Sorry about that, didn't see those posts.

I just can't call a coach with the amount of playoff meltdowns as he has had in his career (including here) overachieving. He's a good regular season coach who runs his teams into the ground, like he is this season. He's a fine coach for an up and coming team looking to take that step towards being a playoff team. But he's had way too many playoff disasters for it to be coincidental, and because of that the last thing I think with him is overachieving.

[M2J]

First of all, please lose the black/white thing. Can there ever be a discussion without that becoming the issue?

I don't give a rat's ass if Glenn is green, blue, white, black, or whatever, but in what universe is he an 'overachieving' coach?

The black/white thing was a joke that I didn't bring up.... See previous 2 posts.

Competing for the 1st seed without Ben Simmons, and winning the first seed last year when you were picked to finish 6th, and you had major injuries to your best player.... Overachieving

Sorry about that, didn't see those posts.

I just can't call a coach with the amount of playoff meltdowns as he has had in his career (including here) overachieving. He's a good regular season coach who runs his teams into the ground, like he is this season. He's a fine coach for an up and coming team looking to take that step towards being a playoff team. But he's had way too many playoff disasters for it to be coincidental, and because of that the last thing I think with him is overachieving.

The only meltdown that necessarily even got any real notoriety was the bubble situation. Which was a bubble situation. Paul George had a meltdown, And he was essentially their defacto point guard. They also only have one season together. But, he does deserve criticism for that meltdown.

Orlando and TMac with Grant Hill taking up salary, up 3 to 1vs which was essentially a championship roster of the Pistons, was over achieving just to get to that position. Chris Paul and Blake Griffin are essentially number three options for a championship team. Most of their meltdowns were because of injuries anyways to the injury-prone Chris Paul or Blake Griffin.

I think he overachieved in the first season with the big three Boston Celtics. Relying on a rookie Rondo, because all of those guys were past their primes. They were indeed the best team in the East I guess.But I would count some of the West teams as better.

He's been notorious in the past for playing too many players, including last year (where the concern was that he was going 10 deep) so I don't know how he wears his teams down.

[mjkvol]

The black/white thing was a joke that I didn't bring up.... See previous 2 posts.

Competing for the 1st seed without Ben Simmons, and winning the first seed last year when you were picked to finish 6th, and you had major injuries to your best player.... Overachieving

Sorry about that, didn't see those posts.

I just can't call a coach with the amount of playoff meltdowns as he has had in his career (including here) overachieving. He's a good regular season coach who runs his teams into the ground, like he is this season. He's a fine coach for an up and coming team looking to take that step towards being a playoff team. But he's had way too many playoff disasters for it to be coincidental, and because of that the last thing I think with him is overachieving.

The only one that necessarily even got any real notoriety was the bubble situation. Which was a bubble situation. Paul George had a meltdown, And he was essentially their defacto point guard. They also only have one season together.

Orlando and TMac with Grant Hill taking up salary, beating which was essentially a championship roster of the Pistons, was over achieving just to get to that position. Chris Paul and Blake Griffin are essentially number three options for a championship team. Most of their meltdowns were because of injuries anyways to the injury-prone Chris Paul or Blake Griffin.

I think he overachieved in the first season with the big three Boston Celtics. Relying on a rookie Rondo, because all of those guys were past their primes. They were indeed the best team in the East I guess.But I would count some of the West teams as better

I guess it's just odd that these coincidental meltdowns, blown 3-1 series leads, blown monster leads in games, all have one thing in common - Glenn as the mastermind.

[M2J]

Sorry about that, didn't see those posts.

I just can't call a coach with the amount of playoff meltdowns as he has had in his career (including here) overachieving. He's a good regular season coach who runs his teams into the ground, like he is this season. He's a fine coach for an up and coming team looking to take that step towards being a playoff team. But he's had way too many playoff disasters for it to be coincidental, and because of that the last thing I think with him is overachieving.

The only one that necessarily even got any real notoriety was the bubble situation. Which was a bubble situation. Paul George had a meltdown, And he was essentially their defacto point guard. They also only have one season together.

Orlando and TMac with Grant Hill taking up salary, beating which was essentially a championship roster of the Pistons, was over achieving just to get to that position. Chris Paul and Blake Griffin are essentially number three options for a championship team. Most of their meltdowns were because of injuries anyways to the injury-prone Chris Paul or Blake Griffin.

I think he overachieved in the first season with the big three Boston Celtics. Relying on a rookie Rondo, because all of those guys were past their primes. They were indeed the best team in the East I guess.But I would count some of the West teams as better

I guess it's just odd that these coincidental meltdowns, blown 3-1 series leads, blown monster leads in games, all have one thing in common - Glenn as the mastermind.

Not a lot of coaches have been able to put their teams in positions for those types of meltdowns my friend. When you coach enough without perfect rosters, you get situations where the warriors lose to the grizzlies in the play in tournament

[mjkvol]

The only one that necessarily even got any real notoriety was the bubble situation. Which was a bubble situation. Paul George had a meltdown, And he was essentially their defacto point guard. They also only have one season together.

Orlando and TMac with Grant Hill taking up salary, beating which was essentially a championship roster of the Pistons, was over achieving just to get to that position. Chris Paul and Blake Griffin are essentially number three options for a championship team. Most of their meltdowns were because of injuries anyways to the injury-prone Chris Paul or Blake Griffin.

I think he overachieved in the first season with the big three Boston Celtics. Relying on a rookie Rondo, because all of those guys were past their primes. They were indeed the best team in the East I guess.But I would count some of the West teams as better

I guess it's just odd that these coincidental meltdowns, blown 3-1 series leads, blown monster leads in games, all have one thing in common - Glenn as the mastermind.

Not a lot of coaches have been able to put their teams in positions for those types of meltdowns my friend. When you coach enough without perfect rosters, you get situations where the warriors lose to the grizzlies in the play in tournament

Good point, which is why I think he's an ideal coach for a team looking to break out and become competitive - he'll get teams to that point, but that's where he runs into issues. He's not a tactician or a guy who makes adjustments on the fly in a short series, which has hurt him in so many big spots. He has his way, and is stubborn to a fault.

[the_process]

I don't really care about that. But, we're supposed to want to fire an overachieving coach for no other reason than because we want to see Paul Reed produce as little or less.... But it's okay because he's developing? Maybe.... Developing? If it weren't this issue, it would be because we want to see how awful Isiah Joe does with minutes..... Because " I don't know, but he sure can stroke it and defend in garbage time".

Is it because Doc....is a black guy? A great point was just brought up about this.

I mean when you think about it, there are a lot of people asking for Mike D'Antoni who's known for only playing 6 or 7 players... I will probably play Tobias at backup center

Just wondering if you are aware of Glenn’s career record?

Yes he's one of the best coaches in the league. Former championship coach. Voted top 15 all time by a panel of former coaches to commemorate the NBA's 75th anniversary. Had 2 overachieving seasons with the 76ers.

Everybody hates their coach... I've seen better reasons than Paul Reed. As someone that's not tied to this team or any other...Count your blessings Docs your coach. There's a more than 50% chance that Embiid would be on his way out or gone already if it weren't for Doc last year and this season.

He has had zero overachieving seasons with the Sixers so far, and Glenn is not the reason Joel signed his extension.

There is a weird contingent that wants to call getting the one seed last year an achievement, while conveniently leaving out that they absolutely choked and lost a playoff series they had no business losing to ATL.

[the_process]

I guess it's just odd that these coincidental meltdowns, blown 3-1 series leads, blown monster leads in games, all have one thing in common - Glenn as the mastermind.

Not a lot of coaches have been able to put their teams in positions for those types of meltdowns my friend. When you coach enough without perfect rosters, you get situations where the warriors lose to the grizzlies in the play in tournament

Good point, which is why I think he's an ideal coach for a team looking to break out and become competitive - he'll get teams to that point, but that's where he runs into issues. He's not a tactician or a guy who makes adjustments on the fly in a short series, which has hurt him in so many big spots. He has his way, and is stubborn to a fault.

Glenn will be a good fit for the Lakers next year.

[mjkvol]

Not a lot of coaches have been able to put their teams in positions for those types of meltdowns my friend. When you coach enough without perfect rosters, you get situations where the warriors lose to the grizzlies in the play in tournament

Good point, which is why I think he's an ideal coach for a team looking to break out and become competitive - he'll get teams to that point, but that's where he runs into issues. He's not a tactician or a guy who makes adjustments on the fly in a short series, which has hurt him in so many big spots. He has his way, and is stubborn to a fault.

Glenn will be a good fit for the Lakers next year.

I propose a straight trade for Malik Monk.

[sixers4real]

Did anyone mention that Doc started Green instead of Thybulle and is using Reed instead of Jordan?

I’m not a fan of Doc, but you’ve got to give him credit for doing that.

And BTW, Maxey being the player that he is right now is because we have Doc and Sam.

Most of the posters here wanted to bench Maxey when we got Harden. I did too. I was wrong.

[TTP]

Did anyone mention that Doc started Green instead of Thybulle and is using Reed instead of Jordan?

I’m not a fan of Doc, but you’ve got to give him credit for doing that.

And BTW, Maxey being the player that he is right now is because we have Doc and Sam.

Most of the posters here wanted to bench Maxey when we got Harden. I did too. I was wrong.

I'll give him credit for agreeing with what I said we should do months ago. Better late than never I guess?

Maxey's the player he is right now because of his own hard work.

[mjkvol]

Maxey's the player he is right now because of his own hard work.

This.

I won't credit Glenn because if Simmons had stayed Maxey would still be fighting for bench minutes. He had no choice but to start Maxey because of how Shake was playing, and the kid balled out, then had to change his role on a dime when Harden was acquired, and still thrived. Sorry, Glenn doesn't get any credit for that.

[Stanford]

Watch on YouTube

Here's the full post game interview. Credit to the reporters for being able to follow up after Doc **** on their questions.

So unlikable.

[Arsenal]

Watch on YouTube

Here's the full post game interview. Credit to the reporters for being able to follow up after Doc **** on their questions.

So unlikable.

This POS needs to go stat. No doubt he'll alienate Jo before too long as he's done with every star he's ever coached.

[Sixersftw]

Good on Derek and Rich (I think) for following up. What an insufferable dick and he can't even keep up with his own bull ****. BBall Paul barely played vs Detroit in the previous game and against the Hornets who basically don't have a damn center.

The nightmare is we make it to the ecf based on luck or an insane Jo postseason and they keep Glenn.

[eyeatoma]

Good on Derek and Rich (I think) for following up. What an insufferable dick and he can't even keep up with his own bull ****. BBall Paul barely played vs Detroit in the previous game and against the Hornets who basically don't have a damn center.

The nightmare is we make it to the ecf based on luck or an insane Jo postseason and they keep Glenn.

Kyle Neubeck did the follow up.

[phiphan]

The bright side about us inevitably losing to the Raptors is it'll make it easy to fire Rivers.

[stormi]

Per Doc's own **** logic, DAJ shouldn't see the floor in round 1 then considering the Raptors aren't trotting out any 7 footers. Boucher/Barnes/Achiuwa/Siakam are all in that 6'8-6'9 range.

[mjkvol]

Good on Derek and Rich (I think) for following up. What an insufferable dick and he can't even keep up with his own bull ****. BBall Paul barely played vs Detroit in the previous game and against the Hornets who basically don't have a damn center.

The nightmare is we make it to the ecf based on luck or an insane Jo postseason and they keep Glenn.

I think the only way he's possibly out is with a bad 1st round exit. If they beat Toronto and lose a tough series to the Heat, Glenn is back IMO.

That's the only potential silver lining to what would be a brutal loss to the Raps.

[mjkvol]

Per Doc's own **** logic, DAJ shouldn't see the floor in round 1 then considering the Raptors aren't trotting out any 7 footers. Boucher/Barnes/Achiuwa/Siakam are all in that 6'8-6'9 range.

He never said what constituted a 'big 5'.

I think his arrogant jerk reaction to the questions was exacerbated by the crowd chants and the thoughts of "where the f***k was this guy all year?" that people will naturally have. Why else would the prick talk about how long he's been around and even drag the other coaches into it?