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Post#41 » by arkuo » Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:16 pm

Mark Williams surely cannot be worse than Dwight Powell at C. If he is available and on the board at the time of the pick, I'd say go for it.
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Post#42 » by ejs78 » Sat Apr 2, 2022 3:12 pm

Tankathon has the Mavs taking Patrick Baldwin Jr currently.

Any thoughts on him as I just know a little about his story nothing more.

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Post#43 » by arkuo » Sat Apr 2, 2022 3:32 pm

ejs78 wrote:Tankathon has the Mavs taking Patrick Baldwin Jr currently.

Any thoughts on him as I just know a little about his story nothing more.

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6'9 wing with a 6'11 wing span. Good shooter. Moves well off the ball.

Looks like a scoring wing to me. Possible Bullock replacement if he pans out?
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Post#44 » by ejs78 » Sat Apr 2, 2022 4:49 pm

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ejs78 wrote:Tankathon has the Mavs taking Patrick Baldwin Jr currently.

Any thoughts on him as I just know a little about his story nothing more.

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6'9 wing with a 6'11 wing span. Good shooter. Moves well off the ball.

Looks like a scoring wing to me. Possible Bullock replacement if he pans out?
Wanst he supposedly a top 5 prospect?

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Post#45 » by arkuo » Sat Apr 2, 2022 5:01 pm

ejs78 wrote:
arkuo wrote:
ejs78 wrote:Tankathon has the Mavs taking Patrick Baldwin Jr currently.

Any thoughts on him as I just know a little about his story nothing more.

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6'9 wing with a 6'11 wing span. Good shooter. Moves well off the ball.

Looks like a scoring wing to me. Possible Bullock replacement if he pans out?
Wanst he supposedly a top 5 prospect?

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I don't know man. His stats look like middle of the pack type to me. But then again, you're getting someone like him for a late first rounder. Even moreso if the Mavs go deep in the playoffs.

Edit: He seems to have gotten injured. Maybe the cause of slippage in the draft.

Feels a little too Justin Jackson-y to me though.

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Post#46 » by ejs78 » Sat Apr 2, 2022 6:28 pm

arkuo wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
arkuo wrote:

6'9 wing with a 6'11 wing span. Good shooter. Moves well off the ball.

Looks like a scoring wing to me. Possible Bullock replacement if he pans out?
Wanst he supposedly a top 5 prospect?

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I don't know man. His stats look like middle of the pack type to me. But then again, you're getting someone like him for a late first rounder. Even moreso if the Mavs go deep in the playoffs.

Edit: He seems to have gotten injured. Maybe the cause of slippage in the draft.

Feels a little too Justin Jackson-y to me though.

I think he was a top 5 prospect and went to a small school where his a dad was the coach who ended up getting fired. Sounds messy

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Post#47 » by Absinthe » Sun Apr 3, 2022 3:04 am

Absolutely do not want Williams. Tends to get into foul trouble and just choked on the line. Cost Duke big time in this game.
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Post#48 » by Darren » Sun Apr 3, 2022 4:42 am

I think if the Mavs is to decide between Liddey and Klesser. The Mavs should go with Klesser. A 6-7 C is possibly nothing more than Malik Rose with a short career. I'd rather have a legit 7-footer on not more than 5M on next contract as career backup. Actually, Klesser has 32 PER which is actually similar to Mark William. And for block per mins, Klesser actually wins (but not for good reason: Klesser sometimes block without getting back the ball). Athleticism-wise, Klesser is not closed to Williams. Both are limited offensively. Rebounding-wise, the battle is closed. In Mark William, you get a potential starter. In Klesser, you get a potential career backup. If there's a small-ball C, that's somewhat Draymond Green or at least Eugene Omoruyi. Liddey does not have the bulk nor skills to excel.
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Post#49 » by Darren » Sun Apr 3, 2022 4:45 am

Absinthe wrote:Absolutely do not want Williams. Tends to get into foul trouble and just choked on the line. Cost Duke big time in this game.


Powell and Maxi does it sometimes as well. At least, Williams is not worst enough as a hack candidate. I think it is enough. Even Drummond can play in clutch time.
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Post#50 » by juanc » Sun Apr 3, 2022 11:25 am

Absinthe wrote:Absolutely do not want Williams. Tends to get into foul trouble and just choked on the line. Cost Duke big time in this game.

Him and Banchero are the main reason Duke made it to the final 4... He was the most impactfull Duke player this season, and that was probably his worst game this season.

I just think he ends up the best center out of this draft class. He is basically a younger and cheaper Capella(worst case) IMO
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Post#51 » by juanc » Sat Apr 9, 2022 7:14 pm

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If the Mavs want to go on a safe route, he is my guy(If Sochan, Williams,Eason or Brown don't fall to the Mavs pick). Basketball smarts and a great motor are always a good combo in my opinion, really se him being a good/great roleplayer in the league, and it's always nice to have that kind of players next to Luka. I also belive he will be a good shooter in the league.

As far as the centers go, I still have Mark Williams as the best center for the Mavs(but at this point he is probably gone in the lotto, just don't see him get past the Hornets pick). He has good feet, great size and wingspan, he is great rotating the in the hips,... Also great feel for the game and he is also strong...

My 2nd favourite is probably Koloko, but he is a project. Has very quick feet(just watched an interview of his where he said that he played mainly football(oops.. Soccer Big Grin ) when he was a kid(that's great for your footwork), one thing that bothers me is his slower hip rotation, but I really like the progress he has made throughout the season). He started to play basketball really late(when he was 15 I think). He also needs to improve his feel for the game, but he has made some serious improvement in that area this season. But still he is a project and would probably need a year in the G-league and one more in the league to become a real rotation player, but he definetly has all the tools to be a good starter in the league.

3rd and 4th are Kamagate and Kessler, both have their pros and cons, but one thing that bothers me are their slower feet, watched some games of Ismael and he got blown by on switches often. From what I have seen he is closer to Boban than he is to Gobert...


As for the rest:

If Kendall Brown somehow slips to the Mavs pick I would love to have him here. The most important thing is his defense, he is a solid 1on1 defender a good help defender, he could easly play the 3 and 4 and could fit gratly in Kidd's defensive schemes. The guy just has all the tools to be an elite defender in the league one day. Also he runs in transition(the Mavs are one of the worst transition teams in the league so adding one more guy that runs like our kangaroo, would definetly improve that).
As far as his ofense goes, he has shown enough potential for me to be a beliver. He has some passing in him, he isn't the best shooter, but I think that everything else is good enough to take a chance.

Jaden Hardy - For some time I have been realy down on Hardy, but after watching more tape on him,I changed my mind... He is just to skilled to not make it. He is great at creating his own shot, at getting seperation, but the shot just won't fall in. But I think that changes with repetition. Don't really see him being a great star in the league, but a 6thMOY candidate(ala Clarkson). One thing that bothers me is his finishing at the rim, where he wasn't exactly the greatest, and he also isn't a great athlete, but as I mentioned earlier, just to crafty and skilled to not make it IMO.
If he would end up on the Mavs I fear that it would be hard for him to get minutes.

ESPN mock has the Mavs taking Trevor Keels. Need to watch some more tape on him, but he didn't impress me really. On the one hand, he is one of the yongest players in this draft, but on the other hand, he was just invisible/just didn't have a huge impact on the game(that's what worries me the most). He was touted to be a good/great shooter out of HS, but hasn't really been that good this year. I like his shooting form, I like his defense and build, it's nice to see him having some playmaking in him, he is also built like a truck, a nice defender, but that's it. No skill that really stands out. But I wouldn't be mad if he was the Mavs pick.

One of the guys I wish the Mavs don't draft is Patrick Baldwin Jr. He was really bad this year(he was in a bad situation, just everything went down for him and his team), but he should be able to put up better stats than what he did.. He is basically a tall shooter, and we already have one of those on our team(a fan's favourite nonetheless) don't we? Big Grin

The other one I wouldn't touch is Jean Monteiro . To be honest I haven't seen much of him, but from what I have seen, I was not impressed. Also to be fair I don't really know much about Overtime elite.

Blake Wesley - I have seen him going from 20-30, but I think he is gone before the Mavs pick. A very decent/great and functional athlete who can defend at a high level, and who can really take over some games. I am a beliver in his offense and in his shot, I think that he'll be a decent/good shooter, and that can really open up other aspects of his game. He had some knucklehead moments, but I think he is a smart enough and skilled enough basketball player to overcome them. Also like his ability to attack the rim. The two things that worry me are:
1. his playmaking - he isn't exactly a good playmaker, more of a tunnel vision guy.
2. His usage - this is one of the reasons why his % were a bit lower, but he would have to be more of a offball guy next to Luka ant our other guards I can easly see him being the Tyrese Maxey of this draft. All in all he is a big guard with elite wingspan who can switch, play defense and has an offensive game.

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Post#52 » by Mavrelous » Sat Apr 9, 2022 7:47 pm

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Absinthe wrote:Absolutely do not want Williams. Tends to get into foul trouble and just choked on the line. Cost Duke big time in this game.

Him and Banchero are the main reason Duke made it to the final 4... He was the most impactfull Duke player this season, and that was probably his worst game this season.

I just think he ends up the best center out of this draft class. He is basically a younger and cheaper Capella(worst case) IMO

Any idea why he's projected to be in the 20s? Sounds like lottery talent from his profile and college career.
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Post#53 » by juanc » Sat Apr 9, 2022 7:57 pm

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Absinthe wrote:Absolutely do not want Williams. Tends to get into foul trouble and just choked on the line. Cost Duke big time in this game.

Him and Banchero are the main reason Duke made it to the final 4... He was the most impactfull Duke player this season, and that was probably his worst game this season.

I just think he ends up the best center out of this draft class. He is basically a younger and cheaper Capella(worst case) IMO

Any idea why he's projected to be in the 20s? Sounds like lottery talent from his profile and college career.

Right now he is projected around 16, 17.
It's just that Centers who don't have much of an offensive game(who project as a lob threat, vertical spacer, not a shooter) rarely get picked in the lottery.
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Post#54 » by Teffer10 » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:13 pm

juanc wrote:
KhalilS wrote:
juanc wrote:Him and Banchero are the main reason Duke made it to the final 4... He was the most impactfull Duke player this season, and that was probably his worst game this season.

I just think he ends up the best center out of this draft class. He is basically a younger and cheaper Capella(worst case) IMO

Any idea why he's projected to be in the 20s? Sounds like lottery talent from his profile and college career.

Right now he is projected around 16, 17.
It's just that Centers who don't have much of an offensive game(who project as a lob threat, vertical spacer, not a shooter) rarely get picked in the lottery.

Hopefully Kidd sees Williams as a young version of his championship teammate in 2011.
Seems like Williams has similar skills as TC and could become the anchor to our defense during the Luka era.
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Post#55 » by Mavrelous » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:18 pm

I doubt he gets past Charlotte who's picking ahead.
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Post#56 » by Teffer10 » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:22 pm

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If the Mavs want to go on a safe route, he is my guy(If Sochan, Williams,Eason or Brown don't fall to the Mavs pick). Basketball smarts and a great motor are always a good combo in my opinion, really se him being a good/great roleplayer in the league, and it's always nice to have that kind of players next to Luka. I also belive he will be a good shooter in the league.

As far as the centers go, I still have Mark Williams as the best center for the Mavs(but at this point he is probably gone in the lotto, just don't see him get past the Hornets pick). He has good feet, great size and wingspan, he is great rotating the in the hips,... Also great feel for the game and he is also strong...

My 2nd favourite is probably Koloko, but he is a project. Has very quick feet(just watched an interview of his where he said that he played mainly football(oops.. Soccer Big Grin ) when he was a kid(that's great for your footwork), one thing that bothers me is his slower hip rotation, but I really like the progress he has made throughout the season). He started to play basketball really late(when he was 15 I think). He also needs to improve his feel for the game, but he has made some serious improvement in that area this season. But still he is a project and would probably need a year in the G-league and one more in the league to become a real rotation player, but he definetly has all the tools to be a good starter in the league.

3rd and 4th are Kamagate and Kessler, both have their pros and cons, but one thing that bothers me are their slower feet, watched some games of Ismael and he got blown by on switches often. From what I have seen he is closer to Boban than he is to Gobert...


As for the rest:

If Kendall Brown somehow slips to the Mavs pick I would love to have him here. The most important thing is his defense, he is a solid 1on1 defender a good help defender, he could easly play the 3 and 4 and could fit gratly in Kidd's defensive schemes. The guy just has all the tools to be an elite defender in the league one day. Also he runs in transition(the Mavs are one of the worst transition teams in the league so adding one more guy that runs like our kangaroo, would definetly improve that).
As far as his ofense goes, he has shown enough potential for me to be a beliver. He has some passing in him, he isn't the best shooter, but I think that everything else is good enough to take a chance.

Jaden Hardy - For some time I have been realy down on Hardy, but after watching more tape on him,I changed my mind... He is just to skilled to not make it. He is great at creating his own shot, at getting seperation, but the shot just won't fall in. But I think that changes with repetition. Don't really see him being a great star in the league, but a 6thMOY candidate(ala Clarkson). One thing that bothers me is his finishing at the rim, where he wasn't exactly the greatest, and he also isn't a great athlete, but as I mentioned earlier, just to crafty and skilled to not make it IMO.
If he would end up on the Mavs I fear that it would be hard for him to get minutes.

ESPN mock has the Mavs taking Trevor Keels. Need to watch some more tape on him, but he didn't impress me really. On the one hand, he is one of the yongest players in this draft, but on the other hand, he was just invisible/just didn't have a huge impact on the game(that's what worries me the most). He was touted to be a good/great shooter out of HS, but hasn't really been that good this year. I like his shooting form, I like his defense and build, it's nice to see him having some playmaking in him, he is also built like a truck, a nice defender, but that's it. No skill that really stands out. But I wouldn't be mad if he was the Mavs pick.

One of the guys I wish the Mavs don't draft is Patrick Baldwin Jr. He was really bad this year(he was in a bad situation, just everything went down for him and his team), but he should be able to put up better stats than what he did.. He is basically a tall shooter, and we already have one of those on our team(a fan's favourite nonetheless) don't we? Big Grin

The other one I wouldn't touch is Jean Monteiro . To be honest I haven't seen much of him, but from what I have seen, I was not impressed. Also to be fair I don't really know much about Overtime elite.

Blake Wesley - I have seen him going from 20-30, but I think he is gone before the Mavs pick. A very decent/great and functional athlete who can defend at a high level, and who can really take over some games. I am a beliver in his offense and in his shot, I think that he'll be a decent/good shooter, and that can really open up other aspects of his game. He had some knucklehead moments, but I think he is a smart enough and skilled enough basketball player to overcome them. Also like his ability to attack the rim. The two things that worry me are:
1. his playmaking - he isn't exactly a good playmaker, more of a tunnel vision guy.
2. His usage - this is one of the reasons why his % were a bit lower, but he would have to be more of a offball guy next to Luka ant our other guards I can easly see him being the Tyrese Maxey of this draft. All in all he is a big guard with elite wingspan who can switch, play defense and has an offensive game.

Some of my thoughts on the prospects in the Mavs range

If some of those guys are gone I like Braun but I don't think his ceiling is high.
He is gritty and is pretty solid at every aspect of the game but probably won't be great at anything.
Definitely plays with passion and is pretty cocky so he might exceed my expectations.
Like you said, he would probably be a safe pick as a career role player.

I really hope Williams makes it to us because I think he has the ability to be the most impactful for us as realistic possibilities in our range.
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Post#57 » by Teffer10 » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:23 pm

KhalilS wrote:I doubt he gets past Charlotte who's picking ahead.

I'm afraid you are correct.
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Post#58 » by Darren » Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:54 pm

Why is the Mavs listed with 26 overall pick despite not being top 4 team? Are there anything wrong with that?
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Post#59 » by mabundo_nagumbe » Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:14 pm

Darren wrote:Why is the Mavs listed with 26 overall pick despite not being top 4 team? Are there anything wrong with that?


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Post#60 » by Apz » Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:46 pm

Dont show the usual suspect that, u know, east is better then the west this year.

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