Knicks Raps PG: No really, goodbye Randle

[Clyde_Style]

IQs Per 36 Minutes since the all start break 23 game sample size

GP GS MIN FGM FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% FTM FTA FT% OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS

23 1 632 6.4 14.7 43.6 2.8 7.3 38.3 5.2 6.1 85.2 0.6 6.2 6.8 6.3 1.2 0.0 1.7 2.6 20.9

Basically putting up Lamelo like numbers on a per minute basis.

Give the PG keys to him next year and watch him ascend the way a guy like Garland did this year.

The pro start IQ at PG argument - besides the fact that the stats say the Knicks play MUCH better offensively and defensively when he starts:

Spacing from the PG spot
Faster getting the team into it's sets/actions - most of the time. Every now and then last year's bad habit comes back
MUCH improved decision making
MUCH improved reading the floor/passing
Better at driving the ball, still a work in progress
Better mid range jumper off the dribble or after the dribble is picked up

Last one I wanted to put by itself, because it was really noticeable to me in this game, but also the last 10 games, is that while IQ might not have a great handle - and some argue if he doesn't by now, he won't, but he's gotten a LOT better at hesitation and changing pace - basically the things that make "slow" point players effective without the burst - guys like Andre Miller in the past, Giddy now, etc. And IQ is fast. It could really be the key to unlocking his ability to run PG as a starter

Argument against IQ starting at PG
He's 22, so it's not necessarily wrong to have someone else start for 3 years, who does all the things well, as long as IQ gets 30+ mpg backing up PG and wing.

That’s what flipped the switch for RJ after the AS break too

[3toheadmelo]

Nice to hear Leon rose confirming Randle is here for another 4 years

That’s what he’s supposed to say. Saying anything else would’ve been insanity. Hopefully he’s working overtime to rid the team of this demotivating sourpuss

Anyone interpreting what Rose said to mean confirmation that Randle is staying put needs some remedial tutoring in media speak.

another person not living in reality. sad.

[Clyde_Style]

I'm sad to see the season end because this was a great resource to make me contemplate the fragility of my mortality and inspire me to make better use of my precious time in this existence.

Well, you do have Evan and a nice collection of bat chit to keep you company this Summer

[thebuzzardman]

The debate about RJ versus Barnes got laughed off but RJ and Obi could be in the ballpark at least. I do like Barnes.

I think Brunson type PG would help Obi a lot. We need someone who is unselfish, though Brunson does not have some great court vision.

Id rather roll with Quickley than pay Brunson what he’s looking for

I'm a Brunson fan and I think they could both get 30 mpg handling PG and backing up SG, but height could be an issue.
Also, Brunson is fine from afar, but if he's getting 4/20, then I might develop THJr feelings towards him.

[thebuzzardman]

IQs Per 36 Minutes since the all start break 23 game sample size

GP GS MIN FGM FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% FTM FTA FT% OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS

23 1 632 6.4 14.7 43.6 2.8 7.3 38.3 5.2 6.1 85.2 0.6 6.2 6.8 6.3 1.2 0.0 1.7 2.6 20.9

Basically putting up Lamelo like numbers on a per minute basis.

Give the PG keys to him next year and watch him ascend the way a guy like Garland did this year.

The pro start IQ at PG argument - besides the fact that the stats say the Knicks play MUCH better offensively and defensively when he starts:

Spacing from the PG spot
Faster getting the team into it's sets/actions - most of the time. Every now and then last year's bad habit comes back
MUCH improved decision making
MUCH improved reading the floor/passing
Better at driving the ball, still a work in progress
Better mid range jumper off the dribble or after the dribble is picked up

Last one I wanted to put by itself, because it was really noticeable to me in this game, but also the last 10 games, is that while IQ might not have a great handle - and some argue if he doesn't by now, he won't, but he's gotten a LOT better at hesitation and changing pace - basically the things that make "slow" point players effective without the burst - guys like Andre Miller in the past, Giddy now, etc. And IQ is fast. It could really be the key to unlocking his ability to run PG as a starter

Argument against IQ starting at PG
He's 22, so it's not necessarily wrong to have someone else start for 3 years, who does all the things well, as long as IQ gets 30+ mpg backing up PG and wing.

That’s what flipped the switch for RJ after the AS break too

Johnny Bryant assisted?
They both do the drive/stop/turnaround and pop the jumper now.
Feel that comes from the coaching staff, at the least.

[Clyde_Style]

The pro start IQ at PG argument - besides the fact that the stats say the Knicks play MUCH better offensively and defensively when he starts:

Spacing from the PG spot
Faster getting the team into it's sets/actions - most of the time. Every now and then last year's bad habit comes back
MUCH improved decision making
MUCH improved reading the floor/passing
Better at driving the ball, still a work in progress
Better mid range jumper off the dribble or after the dribble is picked up

Last one I wanted to put by itself, because it was really noticeable to me in this game, but also the last 10 games, is that while IQ might not have a great handle - and some argue if he doesn't by now, he won't, but he's gotten a LOT better at hesitation and changing pace - basically the things that make "slow" point players effective without the burst - guys like Andre Miller in the past, Giddy now, etc. And IQ is fast. It could really be the key to unlocking his ability to run PG as a starter

Argument against IQ starting at PG
He's 22, so it's not necessarily wrong to have someone else start for 3 years, who does all the things well, as long as IQ gets 30+ mpg backing up PG and wing.

That’s what flipped the switch for RJ after the AS break too

Johnny Bryant assisted?
They both do the drive/stop/turnaround and pop the jumper now.
Feel that comes from the coaching staff, at the least.

Dunno, but with seasoning is coming craft for both of them.

The most successful francises keep young players and let them mature together and eventually the sum becomes greater than the parts as they start to play with one mind

[Clyde_Style]

That’s what he’s supposed to say. Saying anything else would’ve been insanity. Hopefully he’s working overtime to rid the team of this demotivating sourpuss

Anyone interpreting what Rose said to mean confirmation that Randle is staying put needs some remedial tutoring in media speak.

another person not living in reality. sad.

You should pray Randle is traded to spare you the embarrassment of being his lone shill on this board

[3toheadmelo]

anyone calling obi a super star cause of yesterday's game is on some super knicks homerism schit

[louisorr]

Mitch, it's been nice watching you play. good luck on your next team.
a year from now I'll post the same ting about RJ.
and I really like both players...it just comes down to $$.

[3toheadmelo]

Anyone interpreting what Rose said to mean confirmation that Randle is staying put needs some remedial tutoring in media speak.

another person not living in reality. sad.

You should pray Randle is traded to spare you the embarrassment of being his lone shill on this board

im praying for you to start living in reality. it's not healthy to live that way

[Clyde_Style]

anyone calling obi a super star cause of yesterday's game is on some super knicks homerism schit

You crack us up. You’re the board’s # 1 Stan

[Clyde_Style]

another person not living in reality. sad.

You should pray Randle is traded to spare you the embarrassment of being his lone shill on this board

im praying for you to start living in reality. it's not healthy to live that way

[3toheadmelo]

anyone calling obi a super star cause of yesterday's game is on some super knicks homerism schit

You crack us up. You’re the board’s # 1 Stan

looks like you're feeling guilty that you're known for overrating our youth like crazy. firstyou said grimes was the next klay , now obi a super star. did you also call rj the next kobe or was that someone else?

[Capn'O]

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You know you just want him back because you like that Jay-Z boat gif.

[2010]

Do y’all see the IQ / Chauncey Billups similarities now?

Do you think he will become the leader and plus defender that Billups was?

He has leadership qualities that he’s currently showing at age 22. One could argue he is on an ascending trajectory that’s exceeding Billups development pace back in the day. So really, it’s not absurd to think he can become the leader and defender Billups was – or close to it.

What we do know is he has shown poise, big shot making ability, improved his defense greatly in year 2, has been mentored by Derrick Rose and has now taken on the leadership role (along with RJ) among the young guys. He works hard – getting in the gym as late as 1-2am at times. And he has a great rapport with Obi.

Then you look at things physically. He has the same size and measurements as Billups. Has those tree trunk quads. Not the most athleticism or wiggle, but can get to his spots. The physical profile is there with the similarities. Both also elite FT shooters and not afraid of the moment. In time I think he can become a winning player. We just have to invest in his long-term development, if what he’s been showing is real.

[3toheadmelo]

...

You know you just want him back because you like that Jay-Z boat gif.

Watch on YouTube

[DaGawd]

Do y’all see the IQ / Chauncey Billups similarities now?

Do you think he will become the leader and plus defender that Billups was?

He has leadership qualities that he’s currently showing at age 22. One could argue he is on an ascending trajectory that’s exceeding Billups development pace back in the day. So really, it’s not absurd to think he can become the leader and defender Billups was – or close to it.

What we do know is he has shown poise, big shot making ability, improved his defense greatly in year 2, has been mentored by Derrick Rose and has now taken on the leadership role (along with RJ) among the young guys. He works hard – getting in the gym as late as 1-2am at times. And he has a great rapport with Obi.

Then you look at things physically. He has the same size and measurements as Billups. Has those tree trunk quads. Not the most athleticism or wiggle, but can get to his spots. The physical profile is there with the similarities. Both also elite FT shooters and not afraid of the moment. In time I think he can become a winning player. We just have to invest in his long-term development, if what he’s been showing is real.

I’m just glad IQ is solidifying Ty Ty as a wasted pick if we even keep it

[louisorr]

Do you think he will become the leader and plus defender that Billups was?

He has leadership qualities that he’s currently showing at age 22. One could argue he is on an ascending trajectory that’s exceeding Billups development pace back in the day. So really, it’s not absurd to think he can become the leader and defender Billups was – or close to it.

What we do know is he has shown poise, big shot making ability, improved his defense greatly in year 2, has been mentored by Derrick Rose and has now taken on the leadership role (along with RJ) among the young guys. He works hard – getting in the gym as late as 1-2am at times. And he has a great rapport with Obi.

Then you look at things physically. He has the same size and measurements as Billups. Has those tree trunk quads. Not the most athleticism or wiggle, but can get to his spots. The physical profile is there with the similarities. Both also elite FT shooters and not afraid of the moment. In time I think he can become a winning player. We just have to invest in his long-term development, if what he’s been showing is real.

I’m just glad IQ is solidifying Ty Ty as a wasted pick if we even keep it

agreed. that would be redundant and a wasted pick. Dyson Daniels on the other hand gets us a replacement elf on the shelf.

[rajajackal]

That’s what he’s supposed to say. Saying anything else would’ve been insanity. Hopefully he’s working overtime to rid the team of this demotivating sourpuss

Anyone interpreting what Rose said to mean confirmation that Randle is staying put needs some remedial tutoring in media speak.

another person not living in reality. sad.

marks was saying he wouldn't trade harden up until the moment he did. has a GM ever said they were going to trade a player publicly?

[Deeeez Knicks]

Anyone interpreting what Rose said to mean confirmation that Randle is staying put needs some remedial tutoring in media speak.

another person not living in reality. sad.

marks was saying he wouldn't trade harden up until the moment he did. has a GM ever said they were going to trade a player publicly?

If anything that means he’s gone