GT #82: Bullets @ Hornets 3:30 PM (NBCSW/980 AM)

[queridiculo]

The final record is 35 wins and 47 losses; and I for one think they did some pretty good tanking

The wizards finish 21st out of 30NBA teams

Somehow the spurs are 34 and 48 and the lakers are 33 and 49

The only thing the wizard's could have done is try to tank 3 more games but that's the way it worked out worked out we ended up with 35...

32-50 would have been optimal.

#Sowizards

That said they played some pretty good basketball with Chris TAPS porzingis in the lineup

There was quite a bit more optimism from the board before the season started, but as a trend, it's hard to ignore that the board has pegged the franchises prospects when Sheppard took over just right and not a thing has changed to give the impression that there will be a change in the teams trajectory.

If we can see it, you'd expect the team's leadership to see it, and then the question to the answer of "do they even care" is obvious.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

HUBRIS

As a 61 year old man I'm going to tell you my name is Kenneth Holmes and I told you guys 10 years ago that I could do a better job than Ernie grunfeld and I'm pretty sure I could do better than Tommy

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The final record is 35 wins and 47 losses; and I for one think they did some pretty good tanking

The wizards finish 21st out of 30NBA teams

Somehow the spurs are 34 and 48 and the lakers are 33 and 49

The only thing the wizard's could have done is try to tank 3 more games but that's the way it worked out worked out we ended up with 35...

32-50 would have been optimal.

#Sowizards

That said they played some pretty good basketball with Chris TAPS porzingis in the lineup

There was quite a bit more optimism from the board before the season started, but as a trend, it's hard to ignore that the board has pegged the franchises prospects when Sheppard took over just right and not a thing has changed to give the impression that there will be a change in the teams trajectory.

If we can see it, you'd expect the team's leadership to see it, and then the question to the answer of "do they even care" is obvious.

Q

I'm going to double down to say that in my opinion if they weren't just so freaking stupid all they would do is take our ideas and average them out .....and I believe that is what happened with this last draft ...because there was a change in the way Tommy does things

I am not peasant mysticat all because even though this season only ended with a certain number of wins Tommy took a very different approach than Ernie


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Should not have to speak so slowly to Google voice input so that it would get pessimism correct

Peasant Mystikal or pessimistic

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

I love how Wes taking obsessive timeouts in a completely meaningless game. Will literally let the vets run us into the ground but no let's micromanage the young guys.

When you're developing young players, nothing is meaningless. Should he just stand by and let them develop bad habits? You guys complain about everything.

I am interested to see how next year goes under this coach

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I am too. I just haven't been able to grasp WUJ's basketball strategy/logic/philosophy for large part of this season. Now I get veterans are going to get a longer leash, but how long of a leash? When does it get to the point where we start to say that there is some blatant favoritism being given to veterans even though they don't deserve it? I've see Beal, KCP, Kuzma, Neto, and Harrel get away with poor play all season where they've made rookie-level mistakes, haven't shown effort, etc., and WUJ will literally play them no matter what.

If there is no such thing as a meaningless moment for young players, what does it say to them, that once you have a predetermined amount of years in the league you are above criticism, coaching, and the consequences that come along with playing selfishly or poorly? This has been a theme all throughout the year, so it's not like I or others are voicing this on the last day of the season.

My hope is that Unseld is playing the long game, and didn't want mutiny his first year with veterans. There's no way of knowing that though, so I can only go based on what I've seen.

[FAH1223]

The final record is 35 wins and 47 losses; and I for one think they did some pretty good tanking

The wizards finish 21st out of 30NBA teams

Somehow the spurs are 34 and 48 and the lakers are 33 and 49

The only thing the wizard's could have done is try to tank 3 more games but that's the way it worked out worked out we ended up with 35...

32-50 would have been optimal.

#Sowizards

That said they played some pretty good basketball with Chris TAPS porzingis in the lineup

There was quite a bit more optimism from the board before the season started, but as a trend, it's hard to ignore that the board has pegged the franchises prospects when Sheppard took over just right and not a thing has changed to give the impression that there will be a change in the teams trajectory.

If we can see it, you'd expect the team's leadership to see it, and then the question to the answer of "do they even care" is obvious.

I had a lot of optimism as I thought Beal would play at an All-NBA level and Dinwiddie would be adequate...err competent. With all the extra bodies and Wes being a fresh HC...I thought the competitiveness would be up.

I feel like an idiot for thinking that. Wes not being ready for primetime as a HC in terms of dealing with egos and not having a great feel for the game is so disappointing.

But it all comes down to TOMMY and while he's been average, he's made catastrophic decisions like Bertans contract and the Isaiah Todd pick which require cleanups.

He's gonna pick that Serbian kid Jovic... watch.

[payitforward]

Plus, as the season began it looked like we were right in being optimistic. They were never going to upscale 10-3 to 63-19, but there was reason to be optimistic about the rest of the season, nonetheless -- especially since Beal wasn't playing well, which one might have expected to change.

Tommy was handed an enormous mess -- we had Wall's horrible contract, a team of terrible players, & Bradley Beal. His biggest mistake was in not deciding he had to rebuild from scratch. I can't help but put the strategic decisions like that one, & many particular choices as well, on Ted rather than Tommy.

I don't think it's possible to over-praise his turning Wall's contract into a set of real assets. His pick up of Bryant was outstanding.

As to Bertans, it was an extraordinary case of turning a brilliant move into a disaster: we acquired Bertans for a TPE (i.e., essentially for nothing), then at the deadline a few months later we had an offer from Boston of a 2020 late R1 pick for him (probably #26).

If only we'd taken that offer! I speculate -- certainly could not prove -- that this was Ted's decision. A "change the culture" decision.

Had Tommy taken that offer, he'd look like a great GM even now. The only other really bad decision was picking Rui @ #9 -- & that move I put entirely on Ted, because the greater part of what Rui brought to the table was business benefits rather than basketball benefits.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

When you're developing young players, nothing is meaningless. Should he just stand by and let them develop bad habits? You guys complain about everything.

I am interested to see how next year goes under this coach

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I am too. I just haven't been able to grasp WUJ's basketball strategy/logic/philosophy for large part of this season. Now I get veterans are going to get a longer leash, but how long of a leash? When does it get to the point where we start to say that there is some blatant favoritism being given to veterans even though they don't deserve it? I've see Beal, KCP, Kuzma, Neto, and Harrel get away with poor play all season where they've made rookie-level mistakes, haven't shown effort, etc., and WUJ will literally play them no matter what.

If there is no such thing as a meaningless moment for young players, what does it say to them, that once you have a predetermined amount of years in the league you are above criticism, coaching, and the consequences that come along with playing selfishly or poorly? This has been a theme all throughout the year, so it's not like I or others are voicing this on the last day of the season.

My hope is that Unseld is playing the long game, and didn't want mutiny his first year with veterans. There's no way of knowing that though, so I can only go based on what I've seen.

If I already answered this forgive me because I had a little bit of rest since this morning and now I can give a better answer

Whatever wuj did this year next season he will not be a first-year coach himself and he will know the personnel and he won't have to be so diplomatic or insecure about veterans versus the young guys because he will know them all except for the rookies

He will start the year off with k p and I think it will be a smoother start

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

I am interested to see how next year goes under this coach

Sent from my SM-A526U using RealGM mobile app

I am too. I just haven't been able to grasp WUJ's basketball strategy/logic/philosophy for large part of this season. Now I get veterans are going to get a longer leash, but how long of a leash? When does it get to the point where we start to say that there is some blatant favoritism being given to veterans even though they don't deserve it? I've see Beal, KCP, Kuzma, Neto, and Harrel get away with poor play all season where they've made rookie-level mistakes, haven't shown effort, etc., and WUJ will literally play them no matter what.

If there is no such thing as a meaningless moment for young players, what does it say to them, that once you have a predetermined amount of years in the league you are above criticism, coaching, and the consequences that come along with playing selfishly or poorly? This has been a theme all throughout the year, so it's not like I or others are voicing this on the last day of the season.

My hope is that Unseld is playing the long game, and didn't want mutiny his first year with veterans. There's no way of knowing that though, so I can only go based on what I've seen.

If I already answered this forgive me because I had a little bit of rest since this morning and now I can give a better answer

Whatever wuj did this year next season he will not be a first-year coach himself and he will know the personnel and he won't have to be so diplomatic or insecure about veterans versus the young guys because he will know them all except for the rookies

He will start the year off with k p and I think it will be a smoother start

I hope so CCJ, I hope so. I have bad Brooks PTSD, and I want to like WUJ, so I'm rooting for him.