Westbrook on Vogel: “I don’t know what his issue was with me”

[jbk1234]

Come on now. Think about it from Westbrook's perspective, look at how things have gone for him: He got $300m, personal awards, praise and media attention over 14 years, and now all of a sudden you're gonna tell him he's doing it wrong? Nah, you're doing it wrong. He just does what he always did, which made him tremendously successful beyond his wildest imagination, and he ain't changing it any time soon. If you don't like it that's your problem, shouldn't have brought him along. End of story.

Has he even won a playoff series without Durant? I think we need to factor in team success when we talk about how successful a player is. He's had some good running mates after Durant left and none of them wanted to continue to play with him.

This is very reminiscent of the end of AI's career tbh. He's either going to accept a sixth man role, or his NBA career is going to end prematurely.

[timO]

hes right

Vogel is a trash coach, even dantoni manage to produce a Russ system with super small ball with Russ being the SG 27-8-7.

[Pachinko_]

Come on now. Think about it from Westbrook's perspective, look at how things have gone for him: He got $300m, personal awards, praise and media attention over 14 years, and now all of a sudden you're gonna tell him he's doing it wrong? Nah, you're doing it wrong. He just does what he always did, which made him tremendously successful beyond his wildest imagination, and he ain't changing it any time soon. If you don't like it that's your problem, shouldn't have brought him along. End of story.

Has he even won a playoff series without Durant? I think we need to factor in team success when we talk about how successful a player is. He's had some good running mates after Durant left and none of them wanted to continue to play with him.

This is very reminiscent of the end of AI's career tbh. He's either going to accept a sixth man role, or his NBA career is going to end prematurely.

Yes. We have to factor in team and playoffs, because we are fans and that's how we measure success. But he doesn't have to.

Basically what I'm trying to say is that it's very hard to tell a man with $300m that he's not successful and he needs to do something different from what got him there. He just won't. And if you insist and it means the end of his career he's just gonna ride merrily into the sunset and the Hall Of Fame, forever not understanding what the hell you were on about.

[CIN-C-STAR]

hes right

Vogel is a trash coach, even dantoni manage to produce a Russ system with super small ball with Russ being the SG 27-8-7.

Yeah a team w 2 recent MVPs that had recently challenged the KD Warriors, managed to win 44 games, barely beat a trying-to-tank OKC in 7 games in the 1st round, and then got curb stomped in the semis.
But hey Russ got his #s so the season was a rousing success and Dantoni did a great job

[timO]

hes right

Vogel is a trash coach, even dantoni manage to produce a Russ system with super small ball with Russ being the SG 27-8-7.

Yeah a team w 2 recent MVPs that had recently challenged the KD Warriors, managed to win 44 games, barely beat a trying-to-tank OKC in 7 games in the 1st round, and then got curb stomped in the semis.
But hey Russ got his #s so the season was a rousing success and Dantoni did a great job

?? the season was 72 games, so they were a 50 win team

In playoffs Russ played injuried, in fact he miss 3-4 games from the okc series.

Vogel is a trash coach, Wizards have much worst team last year and they make playoffs.

[Buckeye-NBAFan]

hes right

Vogel is a trash coach, even dantoni manage to produce a Russ system with super small ball with Russ being the SG 27-8-7.

All those numbers, yet the Rockets were worse than the previous year, and Westbrook was a disaster in the playoffs.

[timO]

hes right

Vogel is a trash coach, even dantoni manage to produce a Russ system with super small ball with Russ being the SG 27-8-7.

All those numbers, yet the Rockets were worse than the previous year, and Westbrook was a disaster in the playoffs.

Prior year they were 53-29

then 50-32 not much change

Russ played coming from and injured that playoffs.

Last year playoffs he played injured too, hes bad playoffs were the last 2 in okc.

[Buckeye-NBAFan]

hes right

Vogel is a trash coach, even dantoni manage to produce a Russ system with super small ball with Russ being the SG 27-8-7.

All those numbers, yet the Rockets were worse than the previous year, and Westbrook was a disaster in the playoffs.

Prior year they were 53-29

then 50-32 not much change

Russ played coming from and injured that playoffs.

Last year playoffs he played injured too, hes bad playoffs were the 2 last in okc.

The point is, this is the NBA, everyone can put up numbers with the ball in their hands. Just the fact that Westbrook is much more willing to dominate the ball than a Chris Paul or whoever else doesn't make his great if he can't produce at league average efficiency at minimum, which he hasnt been able to do for a few years now.

[CIN-C-STAR]

hes right

Vogel is a trash coach, even dantoni manage to produce a Russ system with super small ball with Russ being the SG 27-8-7.

Yeah a team w 2 recent MVPs that had recently challenged the KD Warriors, managed to win 44 games, barely beat a trying-to-tank OKC in 7 games in the 1st round, and then got curb stomped in the semis.
But hey Russ got his #s so the season was a rousing success and Dantoni did a great job

?? the season was 72 games, so they were a 50 win team

In playoffs Russ played injuried, in fact he miss 3-4 games from the okc series.

Vogel is a trash coach, Wizards have much worst team last year and they make playoffs.

Russ shot 42/24/53 in the playoffs. He had 37 assists and 30 turnovers.
I forgot that year was the shortened season but point is, that was not a good season for the collection of talent on that Houston team.
If you're only looking at raw box score numbers for Russ I guess you could call it a success, but as a team it was another disappointing season for a Westbrook team.

[timO]

Yeah a team w 2 recent MVPs that had recently challenged the KD Warriors, managed to win 44 games, barely beat a trying-to-tank OKC in 7 games in the 1st round, and then got curb stomped in the semis.
But hey Russ got his #s so the season was a rousing success and Dantoni did a great job

?? the season was 72 games, so they were a 50 win team

In playoffs Russ played injuried, in fact he miss 3-4 games from the okc series.

Vogel is a trash coach, Wizards have much worst team last year and they make playoffs.

Russ shot 42/24/53 in the playoffs. He had 37 assists and 30 turnovers.
I forgot that year was the shortened season but point is, that was not a good season for the collection of talent on that Houston team.
If you're only looking at raw box score numbers for Russ I guess you could call it a success, but as a team it was another disappointing season for a Westbrook team.

u and the rest of the haters keep omiting that he played INJURED

why¿?

INJURED repeat men

[LAL1947]

?? the season was 72 games, so they were a 50 win team

In playoffs Russ played injuried, in fact he miss 3-4 games from the okc series.

Vogel is a trash coach, Wizards have much worst team last year and they make playoffs.

Russ shot 42/24/53 in the playoffs. He had 37 assists and 30 turnovers.
I forgot that year was the shortened season but point is, that was not a good season for the collection of talent on that Houston team.
If you're only looking at raw box score numbers for Russ I guess you could call it a success, but as a team it was another disappointing season for a Westbrook team.

u and the rest of the haters keep omiting that he played INJURED

why¿?

INJURED repeat men

Watch on YouTube

Please, purty please... take him back to OKC...
And give us something good back in return too, since you think so highly of him.

[timO]

All those numbers, yet the Rockets were worse than the previous year, and Westbrook was a disaster in the playoffs.

Prior year they were 53-29

then 50-32 not much change

Russ played coming from and injured that playoffs.

Last year playoffs he played injured too, hes bad playoffs were the 2 last in okc.

The point is, this is the NBA, everyone can put up numbers with the ball in their hands. Just the fact that Westbrook is much more willing to dominate the ball than a Chris Paul or whoever else doesn't make his great if he can't produce at league average efficiency at minimum, which he hasnt been able to do for a few years now.

few years? this year is the worst PER ever for Russ, last year he was a 22-11-11 almost 12 per.

Vogel didnt know how to use him properly. He is a handicapped coach. They ask him to wait on corner 3 and put screens

[PistolPeteJR]

Westbrook is the most stubborn and least self-aware player I've ever seen. This is a major prediction but I don't think he will be in the NBA after next year. Even though he can still play, no team will want his attitude. He will be like Melo before Melo humbled himself. I don't see Russell ever humbling himself.

This is even worse than Melo....Melo was never this bad. Its such a shame man....I use to love Russ so much but this season has been a total turn off. While I do share disappointment that LeBron didn't do enough to make this work.....(it was never going to work with LeBron not coming off the ball and he refused to do it), Russ runs into the first head coach to actually hold him accountable for stuff and this is how he responds. Smh

You should look up off-ball stats for LeBron this year.

[timO]

Russ shot 42/24/53 in the playoffs. He had 37 assists and 30 turnovers.
I forgot that year was the shortened season but point is, that was not a good season for the collection of talent on that Houston team.
If you're only looking at raw box score numbers for Russ I guess you could call it a success, but as a team it was another disappointing season for a Westbrook team.

u and the rest of the haters keep omiting that he played INJURED

why¿?

INJURED repeat men

Watch on YouTube

Please, purty please... take him back to OKC...
And give us something good back in return too, since you think so highly of him.

Hes gonna finish career in okc as backup for sure, to win his ring. Just wait 3-4 years.

[timO]

Come on now. Think about it from Westbrook's perspective, look at how things have gone for him: He got $300m, personal awards, praise and media attention over 14 years, and now all of a sudden you're gonna tell him he's doing it wrong? Nah, you're doing it wrong. He just does what he always did, which made him tremendously successful beyond his wildest imagination, and he ain't changing it any time soon. If you don't like it that's your problem, shouldn't have brought him along. End of story.

Has he even won a playoff series without Durant? I think we need to factor in team success when we talk about how successful a player is. He's had some good running mates after Durant left and none of them wanted to continue to play with him.

This is very reminiscent of the end of AI's career tbh. He's either going to accept a sixth man role, or his NBA career is going to end prematurely.

All false, George and melo repeat.

He wins one with Harden.

Stop the hate for a HOF player, 4 seasons triple doubling on you.

[jokeboy86]

Why do I have a feeling that the Lakers are going to dominate media coverage even with the playoffs going on? If the Nets lose early it'll probably go into overdrive.

If LBJ is on a team, trust that he will get the coverage. The Lakers have been a sports opera series all season long. The more drama th more coverage it gets. Just because the Lakers season is over. It doesn't mean the drama has ended just yet.

But if you're Adam Silver is that what you really want? The downside of Stern's vision of having a huge star(Jordan/Lebron) or having a big coastal city team like the Lakers be successful and bring ratings with them is that now casuals and media are conditioned to not watch when their seasons are over or out of it and regard the other teams or stars as "boring" or not "sexy". You can already see that ESPN has no idea what to do with their basketball coverage once Lebron retires because they've hinged on it basically since they acquired the NBA tv rights. They're so lost that they've given Bronny James coverage like he's a 5 star talent.

Relying on the Lakers being relevant and good every year for the league's success seems like fool's gold and eventually the league and its TV partners need to learn when to pivot. If you're Silver you probably want as much coverage as possible being focused on the playoffs right now not the Lakers.

[PistolPeteJR]

Come on now. Think about it from Westbrook's perspective, look at how things have gone for him: He got $300m, personal awards, praise and media attention over 14 years, and now all of a sudden you're gonna tell him he's doing it wrong? Nah, you're doing it wrong. He just does what he always did, which made him tremendously successful beyond his wildest imagination, and he ain't changing it any time soon. If you don't like it that's your problem, shouldn't have brought him along. End of story.

Okay, let’s try.

From Westbrook’s perspective: “I’ve yet to make it past the 1st round since KD and I split, and I’ve yet to win a chip or come close to it in my entire career as a top 1 to top 3 option on my team.”

If that ^ doesn’t lead him to questioning his methods, I don’t know what will.

[jbk1234]

Come on now. Think about it from Westbrook's perspective, look at how things have gone for him: He got $300m, personal awards, praise and media attention over 14 years, and now all of a sudden you're gonna tell him he's doing it wrong? Nah, you're doing it wrong. He just does what he always did, which made him tremendously successful beyond his wildest imagination, and he ain't changing it any time soon. If you don't like it that's your problem, shouldn't have brought him along. End of story.

Has he even won a playoff series without Durant? I think we need to factor in team success when we talk about how successful a player is. He's had some good running mates after Durant left and none of them wanted to continue to play with him.

This is very reminiscent of the end of AI's career tbh. He's either going to accept a sixth man role, or his NBA career is going to end prematurely.

All false, George and melo repeat.

He wins one with Harden.

Stop the hate for a HOF player, 4 seasons triple doubling on you.

I mean Durant didn't want to continue to play with him. PG decided he'd rather play with Leonard. Harden didn't want to continue to play with him. Beal didn't want to continue to play with him. LBJ and AD don't want to continue to play with him. At a certain point, you can't just call everyone haters, you've got acknowledge the pattern.

[timO]

Come on now. Think about it from Westbrook's perspective, look at how things have gone for him: He got $300m, personal awards, praise and media attention over 14 years, and now all of a sudden you're gonna tell him he's doing it wrong? Nah, you're doing it wrong. He just does what he always did, which made him tremendously successful beyond his wildest imagination, and he ain't changing it any time soon. If you don't like it that's your problem, shouldn't have brought him along. End of story.

Okay, let’s try.

From Westbrook’s perspective: “I’ve yet to make it past the 1st round since KD and I split, and I’ve yet to win a chip or come close to it in my entire career as a top 1 to top 3 option on my team.”

If that ^ doesn’t lead him to questioning his methods, I don’t know what will.

U have to work best your hate man

Russ has already won a playoffs series without kd

[timO]

Has he even won a playoff series without Durant? I think we need to factor in team success when we talk about how successful a player is. He's had some good running mates after Durant left and none of them wanted to continue to play with him.

This is very reminiscent of the end of AI's career tbh. He's either going to accept a sixth man role, or his NBA career is going to end prematurely.

All false, George and melo repeat.

He wins one with Harden.

Stop the hate for a HOF player, 4 seasons triple doubling on you.

I mean Durant didn't want to continue to play with him. PG decided he'd rather play with Leonard. Harden didn't want to continue to play with him. Beal didn't want to continue to play with him. LBJ and AD don't want to continue to play with him. At a certain point, you can't just call everyone haters, you've got acknowledge the pattern.

Okc were done and get the picks from houston, trade george too and start the present rebuild/tanking.

Houston were done, Harden was traded too, Houston take the pick from Wizards, started tanking too.

Wizards take the pick from LA. And make the playoffs with a crap roster and full of injuries.

LA pay a pick to put Russ on screens and in the corner 3

Vogel is very bad, and all you as a haters too

In your hate you forgot all Russ buyers PAY FOR HIM.