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CalamityX12 wrote:We're gonna get smacked hard on the defense end.... Boston has capable scoring options
CalamityX12 wrote:We're gonna get smacked hard on the defense end.... Boston has capable scoring options
3pt_chucker wrote:CalamityX12 wrote:We're gonna get smacked hard on the defense end.... Boston has capable scoring options
The Celtics defense is what makes them a legit team. Apart from Tatum, I'm not really scared of anyone. Yes, Brown is good but he's nowhere near Tatum's ability to score no matter the defense. Smart is a good player and always lights up the Nets from 3 but he can be guarded. With no Rob Williams lob, it will be a lot of Horford & Theis, I love that. I bet by game 3, Theis barely plays...
If the series turns into KD & KAI vs Tatum & Brown, I know who I'm taking...
KD35Netted wrote:Well, I guess Nets wanted Boston. It will be a tough series; I predict Nets in 7. Boston is a well coached team on both ends of the floor.
ben10simmons wrote:Very sad for Grffin, he's already in the doghouse and when Simmons returns, hard to imagine Griffin getting anything in these playoffs....
MrDollarBills wrote:CalamityX12 wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:We need to do a better job of getting Seth open looks. There is no way we can win with him not being a factor.
We need to do better putting an offensive system on the floor so that we can stop primarily relying on KD n Ky going for 70 something pts.....
Too late for that.
Sean Marks needs to be fired.
3pt_chucker wrote:CalamityX12 wrote:We're gonna get smacked hard on the defense end.... Boston has capable scoring options
The Celtics defense is what makes them a legit team. Apart from Tatum, I'm not really scared of anyone. Yes, Brown is good but he's nowhere near Tatum's ability to score no matter the defense. Smart is a good player and always lights up the Nets from 3 but he can be guarded. With no Rob Williams lob, it will be a lot of Horford & Theis, I love that. I bet by game 3, Theis barely plays...
If the series turns into KD & KAI vs Tatum & Brown, I know who I'm taking...
gigantes wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:CalamityX12 wrote:We need to do better putting an offensive system on the floor so that we can stop primarily relying on KD n Ky going for 70 something pts.....
Too late for that.
Sean Marks needs to be fired.
Alternatively, Marks needs to learn from his mistakes and understand his personal limitations better. For example-- when you have a strong-willed, veteran coach (like Atkinson), you're going to need to compromise on your vision a bit. Or at least, form a better synthesis.
As a rookie GM, these are probably normal sorts of challenges to overcome if you want to get to the next level. I do think Marks has well-earned this coming offseason to realise that the Nash experiment was a huge mistake, and that the next hire is likely going to be equally strong-willed as Kenny was. Meaning, Sean is going to have to let go in the right ways.
Something like that, anyway.
JoseRizal wrote:It's ironic that the head coach of our 1st round opponent, who happens to also turn around their season happens to be our former assistant coach. If the FO ever really cared about winning, Ime should've been promoted to HC and Nash getting the axe.
Prokorov wrote:JoseRizal wrote:It's ironic that the head coach of our 1st round opponent, who happens to also turn around their season happens to be our former assistant coach. If the FO ever really cared about winning, Ime should've been promoted to HC and Nash getting the axe.
Why promote an experience, smart, minority head coach when you can hire a white, incompetant, inexperienced consultant to lead your team?
thats the American way!
FML
Ballerhogger wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/266518/Kevin-Durant-Scolds-Bruce-Brown-For-Comments-On-Boston-Big-Men
Prokorov wrote:This was one of the most discouraging games of the season. After the 1st quarter we were awful and what should have been a 30 point blowout was a 6 point game late. Pathetic display of coaching. I just dont see how we beat anyone in a 7-game series with how inept our coaching is and other teams being able to adjust.
Kyrie/KD combined for 60/20 and barely missed a shot and we still struggled to put away a hobbled cavs team that played poorly.
1) We are WAY to content when it comes to KD/Kyrie going stretches without getting touches. Van Gundy mentioned this on the broadcast... We were doing well but Brown/Drummond had taken 80% of our shots and KD was just standing in the corner. Kyrie barely touched the ball.
That works great vs the Cavs and when things are falling. but a couple brown missed floaters and a drummond foul where he splits 3 free throws could be an 8-1 run where KD/Kyrie dont even touch the ball. I get with Zone you want the easy ones but we need to also get stars touches. if they go zone flash KD to the FT line. thats a layup for him or dump down to drummond if they swarm KD.
2) similarly, We went away from a nuclear/white hot Kyrie. he had a great 1st quarter. We started the 2nd with Kyrie + bench guys. he took 1 shot over the next 8 minutes and cavs went on a run as dragic/edwards missed jump shots. They didnt even double kyrie much to make him give it up or antyhing. we need to feed Kyrie there.
3) Even if drummond is going well we need to pull him when he hits a certain minute load. keep him at 18-22. he goes from beast to a walking up and down the floor. which is fine cause claxton is playing well.
4) pretty much all our turnovers were terrible avoidable ones. stepping out of bounds 3 - 4 times? lazy passes. justy terrible all around and then we have the worst transition defense ive ever seen
5) All they have is garland. did we make him give up the ball? no. why? because we are morons. Did we try and make rondo/okoro/mobley shooters? no we just let garland go wherever he wants and run pick and rolls all day.
6) STOP LEAVING GOOD THREE POINT SHOOTERS WIDE OPEN TO DOUBLE TEAM SCRUBS IN THE POST. I'm not worried about cedi osman doing a dream shake over patty. live with that result.
7) on the plus side, pattys shot is falling. Edwards i worry may be a non factor. first taste of the playoffs. i expect nothing from role guys in the playoffs on the road... less from him. not his fault. but this is why you cut LMA or Blake and not Johnson.
8) like 2 shots for curry all game, in a game where they played a ton of zone. a good coach finds a way to get three point shooters open shots vs zone. us? nope. F U steve nash, you ruined this teams chances
I just dont see how we beat anyone in a playoff series no matter who it was going to be. we got lucky and drew boston who we would sweep or destroy in 5 uncompetitve games with a competant coach but nash is worth like a -15 or -20 which is impossible to overcome vs playoff teams.
Even when Kyrie/KD play at superstar level and dont miss shots we look awful. Hell they both even played excellent defense.
this is so depressing
Prokorov wrote:This was one of the most discouraging games of the season. After the 1st quarter we were awful and what should have been a 30 point blowout was a 6 point game late. Pathetic display of coaching. I just dont see how we beat anyone in a 7-game series with how inept our coaching is and other teams being able to adjust.
Kyrie/KD combined for 60/20 and barely missed a shot and we still struggled to put away a hobbled cavs team that played poorly.
1) We are WAY to content when it comes to KD/Kyrie going stretches without getting touches. Van Gundy mentioned this on the broadcast... We were doing well but Brown/Drummond had taken 80% of our shots and KD was just standing in the corner. Kyrie barely touched the ball.
That works great vs the Cavs and when things are falling. but a couple brown missed floaters and a drummond foul where he splits 3 free throws could be an 8-1 run where KD/Kyrie dont even touch the ball. I get with Zone you want the easy ones but we need to also get stars touches. if they go zone flash KD to the FT line. thats a layup for him or dump down to drummond if they swarm KD.
2) similarly, We went away from a nuclear/white hot Kyrie. he had a great 1st quarter. We started the 2nd with Kyrie + bench guys. he took 1 shot over the next 8 minutes and cavs went on a run as dragic/edwards missed jump shots. They didnt even double kyrie much to make him give it up or antyhing. we need to feed Kyrie there.
3) Even if drummond is going well we need to pull him when he hits a certain minute load. keep him at 18-22. he goes from beast to a walking up and down the floor. which is fine cause claxton is playing well.
4) pretty much all our turnovers were terrible avoidable ones. stepping out of bounds 3 - 4 times? lazy passes. justy terrible all around and then we have the worst transition defense ive ever seen
5) All they have is garland. did we make him give up the ball? no. why? because we are morons. Did we try and make rondo/okoro/mobley shooters? no we just let garland go wherever he wants and run pick and rolls all day.
6) STOP LEAVING GOOD THREE POINT SHOOTERS WIDE OPEN TO DOUBLE TEAM SCRUBS IN THE POST. I'm not worried about cedi osman doing a dream shake over patty. live with that result.
7) on the plus side, pattys shot is falling. Edwards i worry may be a non factor. first taste of the playoffs. i expect nothing from role guys in the playoffs on the road... less from him. not his fault. but this is why you cut LMA or Blake and not Johnson.
8) like 2 shots for curry all game, in a game where they played a ton of zone. a good coach finds a way to get three point shooters open shots vs zone. us? nope. F U steve nash, you ruined this teams chances
I just dont see how we beat anyone in a playoff series no matter who it was going to be. we got lucky and drew boston who we would sweep or destroy in 5 uncompetitve games with a competant coach but nash is worth like a -15 or -20 which is impossible to overcome vs playoff teams.
Even when Kyrie/KD play at superstar level and dont miss shots we look awful. Hell they both even played excellent defense.
this is so depressing