Cowology wrote:Cowology wrote:I wasn't aware that we couldn't waive Bledsoe after the trade. That's weird. But I just found this article explaining how it changed with the most current CBA. Thanks. TPE works just as well. *shrug* Blazers waive him themselves, absorb the salary it's basically the same thing.vege wrote:
Hart is a below average 3 point shooter who's in a hot streak on his new team. He has consistently been a 34% 3 point shooter, 13 games won't change that.Grant is by far the superior player of the two. Hart is only 1 year younger than Grant.
While Olynyk won't have a place/role in our team next season, Mr I don't want to be here is a cancer. An expiring cancer? sure, but Olynyk is a semi expiring and have a lot more value than Bledsoe around the league.
And no, you can't trade Bledsoe for Olynyk and then waive Bledsoe for only a few millions cap hit, you need to guarantee Bledsoe's entire contract to make that work, just like we had to guarantee Ariza's entire salary when we had to eat him in the Stewart's trade (so Houston could land Wood), and that part made the trade absolutely disgusting, but people don't understand that.
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2018/03/how-non-guaranteed-salaries-will-affect-trades-in-new-cba.html
Hey vege, I've been looking over the CBA and can't find anything about needing to "guarantee" a salary. Do you happen to know a specific article that may be in?
For the purposes of the trade it requires you to use the guaranteed portion of the contact to match salaries. So in the case of Bledsoe we could still trade for him at a value of $4 mil and waive his remaining $15 mil provided the salaries still work under the CBA for purposes of a trade. So it's more dependent on the team having available capspace to absorb that $15 mil difference in salary. But as long as the trade itself passes that threshold then functionally it's still the same, yes? It's effectively;
Olynyk $12.8
Grant $21.0
For
Hart $13.0
Bledsoe $3.9
So Portland is required to "absorb" $16.9 mil, which would obviously be dependent on their cap situation.
I know in this instance the Blazers can just waive Bledsoe, create the cap space and absorb the salary anyway, but I really am trying to understand how this works on a technical level so curiosity is sorta driving this buss right now. Unless there really is an article specifying the entire contract must be guaranteed to be traded, in which case I'd really like to know what it is so I can read it over in it's entirety.
it seems like guaranteeing Ariza's salary was an opt-in to make the salaries work in that particular scenario and not a blanket requirement for a trade. Unless I'm missing something...
I missed this message, sorry.
You could try to ask in the TnT boards, there are a lot of people there who know the CBA better than a lot of GMs (and a lot who don't know anything but talk and act as if they do
).
