Trae Young: I'll be better than Luka Doncic in 5-10 years

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Re: Trae Young: I'll be better than Luka Doncic in 5-10 years 

Post#261 » by druggas » Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:29 pm

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Sothron wrote:Trae was a better player last season than Luka. He was clearly better than him this season. Only outright haters would think Luka is better than Trae at this point.

I guess there's some Kings fans that still think Mitch Richmond was better than Jordan.


You're on the homer side of the spectrum and it's just as bad. It's not definitive.


When almost every metric shows Trae is the better player for two seasons in a row that's not being a homer. That's called having common sense. The Luka stans on this site are just sad. On the Hawksquawk and the Hawks board here we never talk about Luka or Luka vs Trae. It is obvious to us that Trae is the better player and the results on the floor speak for themselves.

Sadly there's too many media types and fans so invested in being right about Luka that they will never admit Trae is better. You add in the obvious skin color bias in Luka's favor and that makes this even more entrenched for Luka stans.

That's uncalled for. You can do better.
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Re: Trae Young: I'll be better than Luka Doncic in 5-10 years 

Post#262 » by metalinguss » Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:36 pm

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Sothron wrote:Trae was a better player last season than Luka. He was clearly better than him this season. Only outright haters would think Luka is better than Trae at this point.

I guess there's some Kings fans that still think Mitch Richmond was better than Jordan.


You're on the homer side of the spectrum and it's just as bad. It's not definitive.


When almost every metric shows Trae is the better player for two seasons in a row that's not being a homer. That's called having common sense. The Luka stans on this site are just sad. On the Hawksquawk and the Hawks board here we never talk about Luka or Luka vs Trae. It is obvious to us that Trae is the better player and the results on the floor speak for themselves.

Sadly there's too many media types and fans so invested in being right about Luka that they will never admit Trae is better. You add in the obvious skin color bias in Luka's favor and that makes this even more entrenched for Luka stans.


Oh wow. Hawksquawk and Hawks board posters think Trae, the Atlanta Hawk is "obviously" better? Yeah seems like a lot of objective opinions to me.

And lol at that skin color bias crap. You're desperate :roll:
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Re: Trae Young: I'll be better than Luka Doncic in 5-10 years 

Post#263 » by Sothron » Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:49 pm

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You're on the homer side of the spectrum and it's just as bad. It's not definitive.


When almost every metric shows Trae is the better player for two seasons in a row that's not being a homer. That's called having common sense. The Luka stans on this site are just sad. On the Hawksquawk and the Hawks board here we never talk about Luka or Luka vs Trae. It is obvious to us that Trae is the better player and the results on the floor speak for themselves.

Sadly there's too many media types and fans so invested in being right about Luka that they will never admit Trae is better. You add in the obvious skin color bias in Luka's favor and that makes this even more entrenched for Luka stans.

That's uncalled for. You can do better.


SAS has admitted on multiple occasions he puts Luka ahead of other players because he's white and the NBA needs a white guy to be the best player. You are delusional if you think skin color has no basis in how much attention Luka gets.
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Re: Trae Young: I'll be better than Luka Doncic in 5-10 years 

Post#264 » by Sothron » Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:50 pm

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You're on the homer side of the spectrum and it's just as bad. It's not definitive.


When almost every metric shows Trae is the better player for two seasons in a row that's not being a homer. That's called having common sense. The Luka stans on this site are just sad. On the Hawksquawk and the Hawks board here we never talk about Luka or Luka vs Trae. It is obvious to us that Trae is the better player and the results on the floor speak for themselves.

Sadly there's too many media types and fans so invested in being right about Luka that they will never admit Trae is better. You add in the obvious skin color bias in Luka's favor and that makes this even more entrenched for Luka stans.


Oh wow. Hawksquawk and Hawks board posters think Trae, the Atlanta Hawk is "obviously" better? Yeah seems like a lot of objective opinions to me.

And lol at that skin color bias crap. You're desperate :roll:


As opposed to Mavs fans thinking Luka, the Dallas Maverick, is "obviously" better?

Note you can't say anything about the metrics because it proves my point in spades. But you can't argue that so instead of admitting you were wrong you flail around. Sad. You guys just prove my point over and over.
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Re: Trae Young: I'll be better than Luka Doncic in 5-10 years 

Post#265 » by KenoP13 » Sat Apr 16, 2022 4:12 pm

This thread is bull.. Who gives a crap what SAS Smith says.. The man is an idiot who makes his living acting like a caricature for teenagers. Stop with the race crap.. Luka is 22 years old and averaging 28 ppg with 9 assists and 9 rebounds.

Luka has put up better number is more meaningful games in his career. He also has a worse supporting cast and his team still has a better record. I bet if someone was to put up advanced stats here.. They would confirm that he is likely the better player.
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Re: Trae Young: I'll be better than Luka Doncic in 5-10 years 

Post#266 » by metalinguss » Sat Apr 16, 2022 4:19 pm

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Sothron wrote:
When almost every metric shows Trae is the better player for two seasons in a row that's not being a homer. That's called having common sense. The Luka stans on this site are just sad. On the Hawksquawk and the Hawks board here we never talk about Luka or Luka vs Trae. It is obvious to us that Trae is the better player and the results on the floor speak for themselves.

Sadly there's too many media types and fans so invested in being right about Luka that they will never admit Trae is better. You add in the obvious skin color bias in Luka's favor and that makes this even more entrenched for Luka stans.


Oh wow. Hawksquawk and Hawks board posters think Trae, the Atlanta Hawk is "obviously" better? Yeah seems like a lot of objective opinions to me.

And lol at that skin color bias crap. You're desperate :roll:


As opposed to Mavs fans thinking Luka, the Dallas Maverick, is "obviously" better?

Note you can't say anything about the metrics because it proves my point in spades. But you can't argue that so instead of admitting you were wrong you flail around. Sad. You guys just prove my point over and over.


Mavs fans saying Luka is "obviously" better is just as bad, but I'm talking to you now, am I?

When did I flail around? I've already said in another thread that I'm becoming more of a fan of Trae the more I watch him. I'm certainly not one to cry "skin color bias" and attack anyone who even thinks Luka is better than Trae. That's pathetic and it's an obvious excuse when people bring up Luka's two all-nba 1st team selections vs Trae's Zero (don't worry. Trae definitely deserves a spot in an All-NBA team this year). Numbers-wise they are close and nobody can take away Trae's amazing playoff run last year, but it's too early in their careers to say one is clearly better than the other.

See how I'm capable of giving both players props? You can't do the same.
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Post#267 » by jayu70 » Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:29 pm

True or not, I just enjoyed reading thru the first 5 pages and seeing all who were wrong in their assessment about Trae Young and I applaud those that admitted they were wrong.
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Re: Trae Young: I'll be better than Luka Doncic in 5-10 years 

Post#268 » by ReddoverKobe » Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:37 pm

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Sothron wrote:
When almost every metric shows Trae is the better player for two seasons in a row that's not being a homer. That's called having common sense. The Luka stans on this site are just sad. On the Hawksquawk and the Hawks board here we never talk about Luka or Luka vs Trae. It is obvious to us that Trae is the better player and the results on the floor speak for themselves.

Sadly there's too many media types and fans so invested in being right about Luka that they will never admit Trae is better. You add in the obvious skin color bias in Luka's favor and that makes this even more entrenched for Luka stans.

That's uncalled for. You can do better.


SAS has admitted on multiple occasions he puts Luka ahead of other players because he's white and the NBA needs a white guy to be the best player. You are delusional if you think skin color has no basis in how much attention Luka gets.


Please link us all of the times that quote "SAS has admitted on multiple occasions he puts Luka ahead of other players because he's white"
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Re: Trae Young: I'll be better than Luka Doncic in 5-10 years 

Post#269 » by bradybunch » Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:42 pm

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Wolfgang630 wrote:Why would this get bumped. Luka got his team to the 4th seed. He wasn’t fighting for a play in spot


But his body gave out in the process.

Could be a growing concern moving forward.


Sorry, but it feels like this is something you would like to happen.


That's why feelings aren't reliable.

Luka is my favorite player.
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Re: Trae Young: I'll be better than Luka Doncic in 5-10 years 

Post#270 » by Vampirate » Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:48 pm

Love the moxie, but sorry Trae as offensively talented as you are it doesn't make up for your shortcomings.
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Post#271 » by Swish1906 » Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:53 pm

29 of 30 Gms and 29 of 30 coaches would pick Luka over Trae right now but Trae mums burner account here talks about stans and haters...lol
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Post#272 » by Woodsanity » Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:05 pm

Sothron wrote:
druggas wrote:
Sothron wrote:
When almost every metric shows Trae is the better player for two seasons in a row that's not being a homer. That's called having common sense. The Luka stans on this site are just sad. On the Hawksquawk and the Hawks board here we never talk about Luka or Luka vs Trae. It is obvious to us that Trae is the better player and the results on the floor speak for themselves.

Sadly there's too many media types and fans so invested in being right about Luka that they will never admit Trae is better. You add in the obvious skin color bias in Luka's favor and that makes this even more entrenched for Luka stans.

That's uncalled for. You can do better.


SAS has admitted on multiple occasions he puts Luka ahead of other players because he's white and the NBA needs a white guy to be the best player. You are delusional if you think skin color has no basis in how much attention Luka gets.

Yes nba clearly wants to prop up white players hence why this season and last season media tried their very best to downplay Jokic's mvp case and prop Embiid's. :roll:
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Post#273 » by LAL1947 » Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:09 pm

Sothron wrote:
druggas wrote:
Sothron wrote:
When almost every metric shows Trae is the better player for two seasons in a row that's not being a homer. That's called having common sense. The Luka stans on this site are just sad. On the Hawksquawk and the Hawks board here we never talk about Luka or Luka vs Trae. It is obvious to us that Trae is the better player and the results on the floor speak for themselves.

Sadly there's too many media types and fans so invested in being right about Luka that they will never admit Trae is better. You add in the obvious skin color bias in Luka's favor and that makes this even more entrenched for Luka stans.

That's uncalled for. You can do better.


SAS has admitted on multiple occasions he puts Luka ahead of other players because he's white and the NBA needs a white guy to be the best player. You are delusional if you think skin color has no basis in how much attention Luka gets.

Holy cow, are you really going to double-down on this nonsensical "skin color bias" take?

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Post#274 » by ChuckChilly » Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:23 pm

Yeah I think the race thing is a stretch. And if you want to be critical, Trae Young is biracial anyway.
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Post#275 » by leolozon » Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:26 pm

LAL1947 wrote:
Sothron wrote:
druggas wrote:That's uncalled for. You can do better.


SAS has admitted on multiple occasions he puts Luka ahead of other players because he's white and the NBA needs a white guy to be the best player. You are delusional if you think skin color has no basis in how much attention Luka gets.

Holy cow, are you really going to double-down on this nonsensical "skin color bias" take?

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Re: Trae Young: I'll be better than Luka Doncic in 5-10 years 

Post#276 » by Sothron » Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:28 pm

ReddoverKobe wrote:
Sothron wrote:
druggas wrote:That's uncalled for. You can do better.


SAS has admitted on multiple occasions he puts Luka ahead of other players because he's white and the NBA needs a white guy to be the best player. You are delusional if you think skin color has no basis in how much attention Luka gets.


Please link us all of the times that quote "SAS has admitted on multiple occasions he puts Luka ahead of other players because he's white"


He repeated it just the other day on First Take when they did they did the 25 under 25 and he listed Luka first and admitted it was because he was white. His words, not mine.
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Post#277 » by tsherkin » Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:33 pm

KenoP13 wrote:This thread is bull.. Who gives a crap what SAS Smith says.. The man is an idiot who makes his living acting like a caricature for teenagers. Stop with the race crap..


This is the take we all need right now. SAS' job is literally to say incendiary things to grab headlines and attention. That's what he does. I doubt even he believes half the BS he spews, because his job is to be a provocateur, and he is quite proficient at his chosen occupation. Meantime, absolutely we should be ignoring race and just focusing on performance.

One thing which does need to be considered with Trae is longevity. He's 6'1. He's 23. He's not going to get any healthier as he gets older, and the career arc for little guys is usually a little shorter than for larger players, Chris Paul and John Stockton notwithstanding, heh. What happens when he slows a touch? Who knows? Maybe his 3pt shot will continue being amazing and couple with his handles and passing to keep him relevant for 20 years? We can't know that, but it's something to keep in the back of our minds as his career progresses, certainly as we project out over 5-10 years. Of course, Trae just played 76 games and Doncic hasn't played 70+ since his rookie season, so who knows? Anyway, the point is that we should be focusing not on idiotic comments from a court jester like SAS, but rather on what these guys are doing and what we might expect/project for them over the period indicated. Then we wait and see what actually happens.
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Post#278 » by Sothron » Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:34 pm

leolozon wrote:
LAL1947 wrote:
Sothron wrote:
SAS has admitted on multiple occasions he puts Luka ahead of other players because he's white and the NBA needs a white guy to be the best player. You are delusional if you think skin color has no basis in how much attention Luka gets.

Holy cow, are you really going to double-down on this nonsensical "skin color bias" take?

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Post#279 » by bisme37 » Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:39 pm

Yo let's move the conversation away from race please. The mods are getting reports about "racist" comments, the subject gets people way too heated, and if it continues this way the thread will be locked. Y'all are welcome to have your opinion about it of course but it's just not a debate that ever ends well around here. Thx.
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Re: Trae Young: I'll be better than Luka Doncic in 5-10 years 

Post#280 » by LAL1947 » Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:57 pm

Sothron wrote:
ReddoverKobe wrote:
Sothron wrote:
SAS has admitted on multiple occasions he puts Luka ahead of other players because he's white and the NBA needs a white guy to be the best player. You are delusional if you think skin color has no basis in how much attention Luka gets.


Please link us all of the times that quote "SAS has admitted on multiple occasions he puts Luka ahead of other players because he's white"


He repeated it just the other day on First Take when they did they did the 25 under 25 and he listed Luka first and admitted it was because he was white. His words, not mine.

Step 1 on the road to recovery for you should be to STOP watching and listening to Steven A Smith. He is a muppet, who will use, do and say anything (including bait) to achieve his personal money-making objectives and/or portray the image he wishes to, lol.

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