Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 4

RexBoyWonder · Post #581 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:40 am

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Yurt's defense might cost him the roster spot. He might the better player/prospect but his defense/age/3 point shoot make him a questionable fit next to Bam

twix2500 · Post #582 » by **twix2500** » Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:44 am

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AirP. wrote:Wonder how available Zion will be this summer. I get NO wanting to be patient but you're also wasting some of Zion's very best seasons. If he WANTS to play (I doubt he'll risk his career) you need to let him play vs pissing him off and him forcing his way out.

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He needs to lose weight before playing again. He can want to play all he wants, but he's gonna just reinjure himself at his current weight.

I said this when Zion before Zion got drafted. He is a power forward Derrick Rose. You better win a chip in his first 5 years with him because his legs will not last and will be injury prone. He didn't last one season before being injured. Zion has to lose massive amount of weight and even then he still not gonna last long.

I wouldn't touch Zion with a ten foot pole. Let him go to New York so they can debate and cry about the What Ifs of Zion.

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3ammy3uck3ts · Post #583 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Sun Apr 17, 2022 2:40 pm

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Yea give me him over Yurt based on skillset alone. Averaged 45% from 3 this season in limited attempts.

AirP. · Post #584 » by **AirP.** » Sun Apr 17, 2022 2:50 pm

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AirP. wrote:Wonder how available Zion will be this summer. I get NO wanting to be patient but you're also wasting some of Zion's very best seasons. If he WANTS to play (I doubt he'll risk his career) you need to let him play vs pissing him off and him forcing his way out.
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He needs to lose weight before playing again. He can want to play all he wants, but he's gonna just reinjure himself at his current weight.
I said this when Zion before Zion got drafted. He is a power forward Derrick Rose. You better win a chip in his first 5 years with him because his legs will not last and will be injury prone. He didn't last one season before being injured. Zion has to lose massive amount of weight and even then he still not gonna last long.

I wouldn't touch Zion with a ten foot pole. Let him go to New York so they can debate and cry about the What Ifs of Zion.

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It's a different situation then Rose.

Zion's issue is some of his weight which I think an organization like Miami could have a stronger say in Zion's life to get him to worry more about that. The issue with Zion though is seen through his unnatural walk/his knees being further in vs most people, knock knees. To have his best chance (and it is a chance), Zion needs to go to an organization that he wants to be at where he will actually listen to them.

Personally, I'd like to see Miami make a run at Johnathan Isaac if he looks like he's progressing at a good rate medically.

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Kobewade11 · Post #585 » by **Kobewade11** » Sun Apr 17, 2022 3:41 pm

^ Isaac is not well liked across the league for reasons I wont even get to on this board, im not even sure his heart is in basketball.

Zion needs a Heat-like training program, bad.

twix2500 · Post #586 » by **twix2500** » Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:20 pm

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Post #587 » by **Wiltside** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:08 am

Crazy that Bam didn’t make Top 3 for DPOY. He should be first team All-Defense, surely.

gom · Post #588 » by **gom** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:19 am

Wiltside wrote:Crazy that Bam didn’t make Top 3 for DPOY. He should be first team All-Defense, surely.

Massively disrespected. I don't think he'll be all-defense either. That's just how it goes here. Heat are seen as a collective, not individuals.

Post #589 » by **DayofMourning** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:23 am

Wiltside wrote:Crazy that Bam didn’t make Top 3 for DPOY. He should be first team All-Defense, surely.

Wouldn't surprise me if Trae Young got as many votes as Bam.

Post #590 » by **DayofMourning** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:38 am

Tobin goes off. Really speaks for Heat fans about the amount of disrespect the Heat get. I figured some of you might love this.

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AirP. · Post #591 » by **AirP.** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:00 am

Wiltside wrote:Crazy that Bam didn’t make Top 3 for DPOY. He should be first team All-Defense, surely.

It wasn't his defense, it was the amount of games he played for a lot of voters.

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #592 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:20 am

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Wiltside wrote:Crazy that Bam didn’t make Top 3 for DPOY. He should be first team All-Defense, surely.

It wasn't his defense, it was the amount of games he played for a lot of voters.

That’s nice how that only matters against Heat players but Gobert won when he played like 56 games or something

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #593 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:21 am

Wiltside wrote:Crazy that Bam didn’t make Top 3 for DPOY. He should be first team All-Defense, surely.

It’s an absolute travesty. Let’s hope for more of the same next season from a team perspective but Bam is able to stay healthy as usual. If so there will be no denying him next season.

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #594 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:23 am

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Oh my god, this is just unreal lol. This dude is in a class of his own defensively, no one is on his level. He’s going to be one of the best defenders to ever play. Look at this guy just completely locking up everyone 1 through 5.

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #595 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:15 am

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3ballbomber · Post #596 » by **3ballbomber** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:34 am

No matter what you think of him, let's remind ourselves that Robinson is a Heat. He will be instrumental in us going deep. Rather than talk sh*t how about we pull for him to show up & help lift this team to heights necessary to reach the ECF/Finals.

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marson · Post #597 » by **marson** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:38 am

Playoffs is about consistency and I'm not expecting Duncan to shoot 8/9 from deep next game. This has been the dilemma all year, he would basically Steph Curry Godlike level of shooting to being useless for us the next game.

Now if he could give us 2 to 3 threes made per game consistently, it would totally big for us.

Still rate Max over him though. Ever since he started our starter's defense didn't have that many holes. Check Butler's post-game interview, and he talked about Max's defense as really one of the important factors for us.

Now if only Max's defense + Duncan's shooting merged. Then it would be power over 3000 for sure.

3ballbomber · Post #598 » by **3ballbomber** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:34 am

marson wrote:Playoffs is about consistency and I'm not expecting Duncan to shoot 8/9 from deep next game. This has been the dilemma all year, he would basically Steph Curry Godlike level of shooting to being useless for us the next game.

Now if he could give us 2 to 3 threes made per game consistently, it would totally big for us.

Still rate Max over him though. Ever since he started our starter's defense didn't have that many holes. Check Butler's post-game interview, and he talked about Max's defense as really one of the important factors for us.

Now if only Max's defense + Duncan's shooting merged. Then it would be power over 3000 for sure.

That's the point....support, back him. Send positive vibes. He's a Heat player after all. He's already starting on the bench, set a franchise playoff record, dropped 27pts @ a time Herro & Bam were having off offensive nights & people are still negative. What more do you want?

Nobody expected him to have that outing & he did it in spite of the nay sayers & coming off the bench, which can be a mental barrier for many players. Duncan is still top 10 3pt shooter in the league & just one 3 from tying Trae Young, who's 6th on the list. Do people hate the guy so much it takes away form people supporting him as a vital part of the team!?

I like Strus & I'm pulling for him to play well as a starter as I do like his D. But let's see how he performs when he's heavily scouted & focused on the way they do Duncan every gm. He was the least efficient in gm1, shot 37.5% from the field & 20% from the arc.

Players will reveal who they truly are in PO's environment. I believe Duncan will be a key piece to us being successful. I'm certainly rooting for him.

twix2500 · Post #599 » by **twix2500** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:29 am

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marson wrote:Playoffs is about consistency and I'm not expecting Duncan to shoot 8/9 from deep next game. This has been the dilemma all year, he would basically Steph Curry Godlike level of shooting to being useless for us the next game.

Now if he could give us 2 to 3 threes made per game consistently, it would totally big for us.

Still rate Max over him though. Ever since he started our starter's defense didn't have that many holes. Check Butler's post-game interview, and he talked about Max's defense as really one of the important factors for us.

Now if only Max's defense + Duncan's shooting merged. Then it would be power over 3000 for sure.

That's the point....support, back him. Send positive vibes. He's a Heat player after all. He's already starting on the bench, set a franchise playoff record, dropped 27pts @ a time Herro & Bam were having off offensive nights & people are still negative. What more do you want?

Nobody expected him to have that outing & he did it in spite of the nay sayers & coming off the bench, which can be a mental barrier for many players. Duncan is still top 10 3pt shooter in the league & just one 3 from tying Trae Young, who's 6th on the list. Do people hate the guy so much it takes away form people supporting him as a vital part of the team!?

I like Strus & I'm pulling for him to play well as a starter as I do like his D. But let's see how he performs when he's heavily scouted & focused on the way they do Duncan every gm. He was the least efficient in gm1, shot 37.5% from the field & 20% from the arc.

Players will reveal who they truly are in PO's environment. I believe Duncan will be a key piece to us being successful. I'm certainly rooting for him.

3ballbomber, you just do not get it. Duncan is a negative player even when he scores plus 25 pts. For Christ sakes he is making 90 million a year. That has harmed the Heat morality and it will make Herro feel disrespected and leave the team 5 years from now. Robinson is making 1 mill whooping dollars more than Hawks versatile star Kevin Hueter. Duncan is not half the player Hueter is. And guess what, Strus shut Hueter down. Duncan is 35, Strus is a 22 yr old rookie with mad handles, he applies rim pressure, a pick n roll ball handler, great Jordan esque athleticism, and Point Strus is only akin to the great point Winslow. Opponents do not head hunt Strus, we never see Martin replacing Strus because he got exposed defensively. We have to trade Duncan during the playoffs before the draft lottery to save the season and the future of this franchise.

harlem_ball · Post #600 » by **harlem_ball** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:48 am

3ballbomber wrote:No matter what you think of him, let's remind ourselves that Robinson is a Heat. He will be instrumental in us going deep. Rather than talk sh*t how about we pull for him to show up & help lift this team to heights necessary to reach the ECF/Finals.

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Amen to that. The haters have become irrational. I've never seen a guy get this much hate after scoring 27 points.

The heat have a glut of defensive players, defense isn't our issue lol

Onwards in the yoff!!