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Post#401 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:51 am

CalamityX12 wrote:In a 1 pt loss.... remember that botched inbounds where everyone went deep? Easy TO to pts for Smart....

Smh

Thats the play I’m talking about , big reason this game is lost
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Post#402 » by GTR11 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:57 am

ArksNetsSince99 wrote:We gonna win game 2 ,3,4 , Celtics didn’t show me anything we should be afraid of , if KD played at 25% his usual this game was ours to take , yet he was pre trade Harden level bad
Now my question is where was **** Nash with Kyries inbound play to call timeout ? There was no **** net player in 5 mile radius!!!
This play alone and two missed Nic ft decided outcome of this game , up 5 with the ball 2 minutes to go shooting heavy contested jumpers ? Really ! ?
Thats not coaching , thats praying on Nash part , so sick of this trash

That's our Achilles heel that we pray to overcome. This is dynasty level team that underachieving mightily.
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Post#403 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:00 am

GTR11 wrote:[quote="MrDollarBills"]KD was bad but we ran zero action to help get him open.

Even on our last possession, what are we even doing there? Kyrie was trying to drive against 4 dudes.

The coaching disparity is an embarrassment. Udoka took KD out of the game and Nash had no counter, it was Kyrie who brought the team back after a brutal 3rd quarter.

Joe Tsai is literally crazy for letting this continue another year[/quote]

Robert retwitted interesting piece last night about Harden trade. It actually says that he generated that trade.

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I really wonder what's going on behind scenes. As it says it that article, he basically made video chat and made decision. This is huge blow towards Marks. Y'all know I defend Marks like no other... this is huge blow. Really made me consider a lot throughout the day. I think this will be most interesting off-season. We might actually get idea what it is ( hopefully ).

Ok let's get to bold highlights.

1- we know Steve Trash is liability. During this game at the bar me and my boy where screaming at TV calling for Dre to be benched. Ime literally forced double teams at KD at Dre expense. They also abused us when he played in drop coverage. They build 15 pt lead with Dre being none factor on both ends. That was huge, they pretty much took 2 players out. Little adjustment like going small with Nic at the 5, Kyrie went into God mode erased that lead. My question is than, why not try LMA or Blake instead of bringing Dre back again? We got handled again man :noway: .

2- you know Curry had 0 pts in a 2nd half? You know why? Patty took one shot from 3, he went 1 for 1. Kess only seen 4 min and had more impact than Dre and yet we go back to Dre after they were spanking us with him being liability? This is all with me not talking about how we should've exposed their players like Grant, Theis and Horford :banghead:

KD man... this dude just stunk up tonight. He can't pass for s***. Dude wants to be game expert?

We going to need changes to be made this off-season. Simple coaching change with some type of system makes this team dynasty. FRUSTRATING AF.[/quote]

Nash is Trash but saying Udoka took KD out of the game is ridiculous, KD took himself out of the game , he was terrible in every aspect of the game , i saw his turnovers two seconds before they even happened , he was bad straight up bad , i never saw KD this bad before and hope i will never see it again , straight up turnover machine and bad bad shot selection, he hurt us everytime he was in the game
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Post#404 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:10 am

Now , where is Blake ? This game was dirty , ticky tacky fouls , thats Blakes game , he is great at taking charges or fooling refs to call the charges , he is a vet , why he didn’t see the floor for few **** minutes it’s just dumb , why why why ???
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Post#405 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:17 am

Is it a game without words between Nash and Marks ?
You waived my beloved Johnson, so be it , your Blake not gonna see the floor anyways kind of thing
Idk , he did same **** with DAJ , but Jordan was washed , then he did same **** with Bruce Brown midseason , guess what if he played Brown then maybe we be in better position at the end of regular season
I never disliked nets coach this much , not even close , Opie , Kidd, Avery all of them was on another level compared to this Trash
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Post#406 » by Xtruroyaltyx77 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:23 am

TheNetsFan wrote:Too many things just keep replaying in my mind. It's painful. Bruce doesn't blow the 2 on 1, Claxton shouts 60% instead of 20% from the line, KD hits the wide open transition 3 (or a number of other shots he normally makes), Dragic playing a little more under control for a short stretch in the 4th. Any one of those things happen, and we win.

This was the game we had to steal. I'm much less optimistic for Game 2.



I wouldn’t dwell on those things.

Boston missed quite a few opportunities as well. That’s just how it goes.


Next game is a new game. Nets need to play better overall if they are gonna get the win.
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Post#407 » by GTR11 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:29 am

ArksNetsSince99 wrote:Is it a game without words between Nash and Marks ?
You waived my beloved Johnson, so be it , your Blake not gonna see the floor anyways kind of thing
Idk , he did same **** with DAJ , but Jordan was washed , then he did same **** with Bruce Brown midseason , guess what if he played Brown then maybe we be in better position at the end of regular season
I never disliked nets coach this much , not even close , Opie , Kidd, Avery all of them was on another level compared to this Trash

1- JJ was bad, him having words with KD during games were his death sentence.
2- Harden was the guy who was getting in DJ's face for being liability. KD and Kyrie got Kenny fired saying DJ>Allen pretty much. ( no there's, no direct quotes stating it. It's just there's report from Lewis saying Tsai consulted with some players before making decision. and trust me, Din and DJ wasn't the one's ). DJ been journeymen and 3rd or out of rotation guy since. Allen.. yup all star.
3- you think Ime didn't have anything to do with it. He was here for some time and knew Brown as a player enough. Brown talking trash was cherry on top for Saltics to spank him any chance they got, even when it was not necessary.

As most here say and yourself admitting it, we not going to have coaching advantage at any point. We just have to pray he won't be game determining obstacle.

Notice, we don't even complain about in game adjustments here anymore. It's just useless. We did it entire season.
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Post#408 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:33 am

Xtruroyaltyx77 wrote:
TheNetsFan wrote:Too many things just keep replaying in my mind. It's painful. Bruce doesn't blow the 2 on 1, Claxton shouts 60% instead of 20% from the line, KD hits the wide open transition 3 (or a number of other shots he normally makes), Dragic playing a little more under control for a short stretch in the 4th. Any one of those things happen, and we win.

This was the game we had to steal. I'm much less optimistic for Game 2.



I wouldn’t dwell on those things.

Boston missed quite a few opportunities as well. That’s just how it goes.


Next game is a new game. Nets need to play better overall if they are gonna get the win.

Maybe I'm wrong but Dragic was second best net today in my eyes , he kept us in the game first half , we can’t expect from guys like Curry or Mills ,Dragic to give us KDs production
Dragic was great
Curry , Mills little below their production, but not a game changer , we shouldn’t expect this guys to give us KD/ Kyries stat lines
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Post#409 » by GTR11 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:37 am

Coaching can make or break dynasty team. I love bringing GSW and Bulls as an examples because I followed them closely. Zen> Collins and Kerr> Jackson.

That's coming from the guy who loved and admired Mark doing YES network games.

Since I brought up ex YES network guys, why Michelle Beadle in San An doing their games. Bring my girl back home.
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Post#410 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:43 am

GTR11 wrote:
ArksNetsSince99 wrote:Is it a game without words between Nash and Marks ?
You waived my beloved Johnson, so be it , your Blake not gonna see the floor anyways kind of thing
Idk , he did same **** with DAJ , but Jordan was washed , then he did same **** with Bruce Brown midseason , guess what if he played Brown then maybe we be in better position at the end of regular season
I never disliked nets coach this much , not even close , Opie , Kidd, Avery all of them was on another level compared to this Trash

1- JJ was bad, him having words with KD during games were his death sentence.
2- Harden was the guy who was getting in DJ's face for being liability. KD and Kyrie got Kenny fired saying DJ>Allen pretty much. ( no there's, no direct quotes stating it. It's just there's report from Lewis saying Tsai consulted with some players before making decision. and trust me, Din and DJ wasn't the one's ). DJ been journeymen and 3rd or out of rotation guy since. Allen.. yup all star.
3- you think Ime didn't have anything to do with it. He was here for some time and knew Brown as a player enough. Brown talking trash was cherry on top for Saltics to spank him any chance they got, even when it was not necessary.

As most here say and yourself admitting it, we not going to have coaching advantage at any point. We just have to pray he won't be game determining obstacle.

Notice, we don't even complain about in game adjustments here anymore. It's just useless. We did it entire season.

There is no adjustments, it’s Kyries greatness and surprisingly solid Dragic performance , It’s KDs job to find the way in game 2 , there is no help from coaching stuff , and i truly believe he will , thats why I’m optimistic before games 2/3/4
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Post#411 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:47 am

GTR11 wrote:Coaching can make or break dynasty team. I love bringing GSW and Bulls as an examples because I followed them closely. Zen> Collins and Kerr> Jackson. :

That's coming from the guy who loved and admired Mark doing YES network games.

Since I brought up ex YES network guys, why Michelle Beadle in San An doing their games. Bring my girl back home.

Remember her from meadowlands, she was always taking smoke breaks during halftimes
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Post#412 » by GTR11 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:00 am

ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
GTR11 wrote:Coaching can make or break dynasty team. I love bringing GSW and Bulls as an examples because I followed them closely. Zen> Collins and Kerr> Jackson. :

That's coming from the guy who loved and admired Mark doing YES network games.

Since I brought up ex YES network guys, why Michelle Beadle in San An doing their games. Bring my girl back home.

Remember her from meadowlands, she was always taking smoke breaks during halftimes


My experience and conversations with her came to her being sexy. She called me dirty few times for my comments and joked it out. Love that girls personality.
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Post#413 » by GTR11 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:09 am

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Post#414 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:48 pm

Next day, I'm still upset about loss. But have accepted it.

Losing a close game is so devastating because thats supposed to be what were good at.

Bottom line, we won't win this series if Tatum keeps outplaying KD. KD has to establish himself as the best player in this series again.

Having good games from KD/Kyrie is better than having a great game from Kyrie and bad one from KD.

When they both can't be covered in single coverage it really opens things up for the role players.

Defense wasn't even bad overall. Except on the last few possessions.

We also need Curry to step up big time. Make big 3s. Hes out third best player and has to play like it.
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Post#415 » by CalamityX12 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:34 pm

Would like to see Kessler get more than 6 mins... not expecting a world beating performance but something more on the athletic side along with the ability to play defense on the perimeter without giving up a physical disadvantage. If not, then you(NETs) made dropping JJ for Edwards useless/wasted.

Besides, Blake should've been given more burn in there.... this is craptacularly unacceptable. Coach right!

in a game of physicality we need to mix in more fresh bodies as much as possible... we're on the wrong side of age and health to play pound for pound like that.
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Post#416 » by CalamityX12 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:37 pm

Oh yea, even LMA.... give him some spot minutes... we ain't playing defense, so that can't be the reason to hold back. But if LMA ain't right, then ya you can't play him.
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Post#417 » by Netaman » Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:54 pm

there are 3 takeaways from this game going forward (imo).

1. KD played his worst game as a net. Forget that it was just a 1 point loss, either he bounces back from that and they will advance or he doesn't and they won't. They continue to put too many minutes on him. He is playing 40 minutes every night and that's just not sustainable. Last year he only played 5 games over 40 minutes, this year he's played 15.

2. Nash is terrible. The team is always sloppy on small details. They have a tendency to fall into iso ball when motion/passing is working to get good looks (that patty mills cut before the kyrie drive and dish is one example that was well called out by JVG). The team actually played some of their best ball when KD was resting to start the 4th. Whenever they involved the centers in screen and rolls to get switches they got good looks inside and a lot of easy baskets. Claxton played really well, as did Drummond. Nash needs to do better or he's gone.

3. The supporting cast this year is a lot deeper than last year's team. A lot. Seth, Mills, Drummond, Claxton, Dragic. LMA and Blake should probably even get some minutes to see if they can help inside if Boston decides to go big. Get those guys going and let Kyrie/KD come alive off of that. Those guys getting going is what got Kyrie and KD their best looks of the game.

so the good news is that the adjustments from here are really obvious. Play KD less minutes so he can be more effective. Match up better to the big lineups to not get killed on the glass. Let Patty and Seth (and dragic when he's hot) play more within the rhythm of the offense. go to the big guys when they have mismatches.

With better coaching this is an easy series without needing hero ball from KD and Kyrie. Boston was lucky to escape yesterday in ideal circumstances.
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Post#418 » by Stone » Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:55 pm

We are not going to win if we are only getting 26 points from Bruce, Dre, Seth and Patty. In particular Seth needs to give us 15 + points.
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Post#419 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:04 pm

Netaman wrote:there are 3 takeaways from this game going forward (imo).

1. KD played his worst game as a net. Forget that it was just a 1 point loss, either he bounces back from that and they will advance or he doesn't and they won't. They continue to put too many minutes on him. He is playing 40 minutes every night and that's just not sustainable. Last year he only played 5 games over 40 minutes, this year he's played 15.

2. Nash is terrible. The team is always sloppy on small details. They have a tendency to fall into iso ball when motion/passing is working to get good looks (that patty mills cut before the kyrie drive and dish is one example that was well called out by JVG). The team actually played some of their best ball when KD was resting to start the 4th. Whenever they involved the centers in screen and rolls to get switches they got good looks inside and a lot of easy baskets. Claxton played really well, as did Drummond. Nash needs to do better or he's gone.

3. The supporting cast this year is a lot deeper than last year's team. A lot. Seth, Mills, Drummond, Claxton, Dragic. LMA and Blake should probably even get some minutes to see if they can help inside if Boston decides to go big. Get those guys going and let Kyrie/KD come alive off of that. Those guys getting going is what got Kyrie and KD their best looks of the game.

so the good news is that the adjustments from here are really obvious. Play KD less minutes so he can be more effective. Match up better to the big lineups to not get killed on the glass. Let Patty and Seth (and dragic when he's hot) play more within the rhythm of the offense. go to the big guys when they have mismatches.

With better coaching this is an easy series without needing hero ball from KD and Kyrie. Boston was lucky to escape yesterday in ideal circumstances.


Thank you. A ton of yesterday's loss falls on the lap of coaching and is easily correctable.

Nash expects three players who are 6'4 and under to gang rebound against Al Horford.

Play Kessler Edwards. You cut James Johnson for a reason. Until Ben can go, Edwards should be playing for wing defense.

KD was out of sorts and we did nothing to change up things to get him better looks. I'm curious to see if Nash will even adjust to what Udoka was doing.
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Post#420 » by hisairness » Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:07 pm

Everything was already said in this thread but to reiterate about the defense. All year I wanted to be naive and believe that this team come playoff time can get a stop when it's necessary or at least make it difficult for other teams to score. Naive indeed. Last 5 mins of the game anytime they had a chance to get some separation, at least 6-7 point lead, Celts would go on layup drill and and tie or take the lead again. Kyrie hits a big 3 that should have been the game winner and the next possession they allow Brown practically an uncontested layup with barely any time coming off the clock. Then Celts force a desperate fadeaway 3 from KD and win the game on another layup after yet another defensive collapse. I was numb after the game, really **** but predictable way to lose.

One saving grace is that I think KD is a prideful dude that knows he played a **** of game and will come out seeking blood next game, especially with all the hot take dopes and pundits taking shots at him right now.

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