Pharenheit wrote:Crazy how the Celtics had him on the trade block for a while there
It's because he had a trade-friendly contract before he signed his most recent extension. I think it was 4 years, $53 million.
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Pharenheit wrote:Crazy how the Celtics had him on the trade block for a while there
CoP wrote:slick_watts wrote:can someone present an objective reasoning for smart over any of rudy gobert, draymond green or giannis? not thrilled with this one. he's had a great season for sure and is a great defensive guard perhaps top 3 in the nba this year. but dpoy? not over those big guys, if the criteria is 'most impactful defender in the nba' this season.
- Draymond missed too many games
- Smart had more steals per game than any of them, in addition to Bridges
- According to matchup data, Smart allowed fewer points per possession over the season than Bridges, Gobert or Giannis
- Smart had more deflections per game than any of them
- Smart recovered more loose balls per game than any of them
- Smart drew more charges per game than any of them
IceColdCubano wrote:1st banana wrote:IceColdCubano wrote:Funny how you didn't mention Bam who eclipses smart on all the analytics for defensive metrics.
It’s also funny how the heat went 17-9 without bam and had essentially the same defensive rating.
Good try trying to use a useless stat that reflects little on Miami's actual success. Bam's numbers with any combination of Heat players has astronomical defensive metrics, and lessen when he isn't on the court with them by a lot. However Miami has the best bench in the league, and a really deep team, continuing to win regardless of missing players is how they managed to keep winning. Doesn't change the fact then when he was on the court, He held players to their lowest rates and defended all positions equally on any switch a true defender that can defend 1-5.
hugepatsfan wrote:
On the Celtics Rob Williams has a statistical case besides Smart as well.
Again, subjective award. Narrative and reputation matter. Smart's long been known as an elite defender and BOS's defense was arguably the main story of the second half of the season. If you're up in arms about the order of anyone I mentioned above you gotta look in the mirror and ask yourself if you like watching the sport or if you just like to argue about it.

hugepatsfan wrote:DPOY is so subjective. You can try to make it a statistical thing, but even the best metrics out there are flawed. It's so tough to isolate individual performance on that end. Any of us pretending we've cracked the code to do it are delusional.
Gobert is always an elite defender but we've seen teams bring him down a notch in playoff series fairly commonly. I think that cast some skepticism on his regular season performance and there's general voter fatigue.
Bridges is a stud on that end himself but his body of work is shorter. Smart's been an elite defender for like a decade now which give his name a little more "oomph" in these discussions.
Green missed a god chunk of time this year and again, voter fatigue.
Bam is a stud. Could never go wrong picking him.
Could always give it to Giannis again.
On the Celtics Rob Williams has a statistical case besides Smart as well.
Again, subjective award. Narrative and reputation matter. Smart's long been known as an elite defender and BOS's defense was arguably the main story of the second half of the season. If you're up in arms about the order of anyone I mentioned above you gotta look in the mirror and ask yourself if you like watching the sport or if you just like to argue about it.
Liam_Gallagher wrote:I think it should've been Rudy Gobert.

GSP wrote:hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Marcus Smart winning DPOY the day after Kyrie decimated him is pretty humorous.
Do you watch the games or boxscores?
Pennebaker wrote:And Bird did it while being a defensive liability. But he also made All-Defensive teams, which was another controversial issue regarding Bird and votes.
Pennebaker wrote:And Bird did it while being a defensive liability. But he also made All-Defensive teams, which was another controversial issue regarding Bird and votes.
Perseus1966 wrote:Its a disgrace ,maybe the lowest think nba have ever done ,none of the awards now matter.
Now only one thing left ,to name Tony Brothers MVR
