If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
Moderators: Clav, Domejandro, ken6199, bisme37, Dirk, KingDavid, cupcakesnake, bwgood77, zimpy27, infinite11285
If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 17,198
- And1: 21,128
- Joined: Jun 23, 2007
If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
Poll above.
So if the Warriors were to win the title this year (or in the years to come with Steph still on the team) but, say, Jordan Poole wins FMVP this year (which would mean 0 FMVP's for Steph in 4 Warriors titles won), what kind of effect would that lack of FMVP's have on Steph's overall legacy in your mind?
So if the Warriors were to win the title this year (or in the years to come with Steph still on the team) but, say, Jordan Poole wins FMVP this year (which would mean 0 FMVP's for Steph in 4 Warriors titles won), what kind of effect would that lack of FMVP's have on Steph's overall legacy in your mind?
Jokic 31/21/22
Luka & Oscar = 5 x 27/8/8
The Brodie = All-out energy
Luka & Oscar = 5 x 27/8/8
The Brodie = All-out energy
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 11,839
- And1: 12,707
- Joined: Nov 24, 2015
-
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
its meme at this point. yeah, hes not the best against physical, lanky switching defense, but everyone who knows basketball knows that, and using that to minimize what hes done would be overlooking a guy who has done everything he could to be one of the best players of all time.
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
-
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,767
- And1: 4,135
- Joined: Jul 26, 2012
-
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
it would show only one thing, what snowmans are voiting for FMVP award
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
-
- Sixth Man
- Posts: 1,729
- And1: 2,234
- Joined: Jun 26, 2017
-
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
He should’ve won it the first time over Iggy, the Warriors’ whole offense was based on Steph getting trapped and going from there. But let’s say Draymond wins FMVP, and he almost did in the second finals they played. That solidifies him as an all time great which I think is a slight knock on Curry.
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 11,625
- And1: 8,757
- Joined: May 26, 2020
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
He would probably still win it anyway as a career achievement award. Everyone knows he should have gotten it in 15 now.
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
-
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 4,030
- And1: 3,265
- Joined: Jul 20, 2010
- Location: Schenectady, NY
-
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
doesn’t matter to me at all.
politics
to many 3s
to many 3s
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 17,198
- And1: 21,128
- Joined: Jun 23, 2007
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
SpreeS wrote:it would show only one thing, what snowmans are voiting for FMVP award
Curry should be fine with the voters. Here's the reported FMVP Voter list from 2018. I thought, in hindsight (dont recall the series fully now), that Durant was the best player. That said, 4 of the 11 voters still voted for Curry then:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/8puss1/these_are_the_people_who_vote_for_finals_mvp_it/
Shelburne gonna Shelburne.
So Steph should be ok with the voters. Get the job done on the floor, he should get the nod. KD has serious star power, guys like Poole don't. The media should be thrilled to hand Steph the award.
Jokic 31/21/22
Luka & Oscar = 5 x 27/8/8
The Brodie = All-out energy
Luka & Oscar = 5 x 27/8/8
The Brodie = All-out energy
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
-
- Bench Warmer
- Posts: 1,338
- And1: 2,118
- Joined: Dec 23, 2014
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
He gets 4th ring, and it will somehow impact his legacy negatively?
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
-
- Rookie
- Posts: 1,208
- And1: 1,305
- Joined: Jul 17, 2013
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
What a terrible poll.
If Steph wins another title he has 4 titles. That’s incredible and significantly adds to his legacy. Not sure why that’s not on the poll.
Unless you’re saying he gets benched and doesn’t play any of the series leading up to it or in the finals.
If Steph wins another title he has 4 titles. That’s incredible and significantly adds to his legacy. Not sure why that’s not on the poll.
Unless you’re saying he gets benched and doesn’t play any of the series leading up to it or in the finals.
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
- cpower
- RealGM
- Posts: 20,844
- And1: 8,677
- Joined: Mar 03, 2011
-
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
i will be fine if the FMVP is given to Looney. He deserves it.
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
- darkse1d
- Sixth Man
- Posts: 1,600
- And1: 2,079
- Joined: Mar 11, 2019
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
He’ll have as many titles as Lebron without jumping from team to team.
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 10,317
- And1: 7,321
- Joined: May 08, 2007
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
If Pixar never wins a best picture, how does that affect their legacy? Cause Rakim never sold more records than Drake or Jay-Z, how does that affect his legacy? If Nolan never wins best director, how does that affect his legacy?
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 15,508
- And1: 3,851
- Joined: May 21, 2004
-
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
I'm not concerned with Curry's legacy at all, but I gotta think winning another championship would be good for it. 

LF75 wrote: It was a dumb idea..And yes I'm a dick.
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
- GregOden
- Veteran
- Posts: 2,523
- And1: 2,606
- Joined: Aug 11, 2010
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
At the end of the day it will be ring #4 and he’s either 1A or 1B. It didn’t affect Kobe’s rankings on the all time list.
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
-
- Sophomore
- Posts: 242
- And1: 142
- Joined: Sep 14, 2021
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
GregOden wrote:At the end of the day it will be ring #4 and he’s either 1A or 1B. It didn’t affect Kobe’s rankings on the all time list.
Kobe has two Finals MVP.
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 17,198
- And1: 21,128
- Joined: Jun 23, 2007
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
GregOden wrote:At the end of the day it will be ring #4 and he’s either 1A or 1B. It didn’t affect Kobe’s rankings on the all time list.
That's a good point.
To be fair, however, Kobe was dead-set on winning FMVP's (and titles) without Shaq to show he could be "the guy" and not "the sidekick".
Steph isn't a sidekick (well, he was to Durant), obviously. But this is more about, in my mind, what is greater -- the warriors team/culture or Steph as a player?
The Warriors culture is a serious thing. The system, the machine. Of course, much of that machine has to do with Steph, but the machine runs well sometimes even when he's not around.
Personally, I hope Steph wins a FMVP if they win a chip. He's a good guy and it'd be good to see him get one.
Jokic 31/21/22
Luka & Oscar = 5 x 27/8/8
The Brodie = All-out energy
Luka & Oscar = 5 x 27/8/8
The Brodie = All-out energy
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
-
- Sophomore
- Posts: 242
- And1: 142
- Joined: Sep 14, 2021
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
HotRocks34 wrote:GregOden wrote:At the end of the day it will be ring #4 and he’s either 1A or 1B. It didn’t affect Kobe’s rankings on the all time list.
That's a good point.
To be fair, however, Kobe was dead-set on winning FMVP's (and titles) without Shaq to show he could be "the guy" and not "the sidekick".
Steph isn't a sidekick (well, he was to Durant), obviously. But this is more about, in my mind, what is greater -- the warriors team/culture or Steph as a player?
The Warriors culture is a serious thing. The system, the machine. Of course, much of that machine has to do with Steph, but the machine runs well sometimes even when he's not around.
Personally, I hope Steph wins a FMVP if they win a chip. He's a good guy and it'd be good to see him get one.
Kobe has two Finals MVP.
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
-
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,972
- And1: 5,296
- Joined: Sep 23, 2020
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
Is he averaging another 28/6/6 on 60%+ as his teams most valuable player in this scenario?
If so, it means he's getting his official invitation to the top 10 All Time debates.
If so, it means he's getting his official invitation to the top 10 All Time debates.
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 15,508
- And1: 3,851
- Joined: May 21, 2004
-
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
I hope Warriors win the title and Steph does not get FMVP. That way RealGM has more topics to talk about and debate during the summer. It'd be best if Wiggins wins FMVP (which would be yet another great topic) for holding Tatum to 35.8 points, 13.3 rebounds and 8.8 assists and making open 3's.
LF75 wrote: It was a dumb idea..And yes I'm a dick.
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 17,198
- And1: 21,128
- Joined: Jun 23, 2007
Re: If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?
Blazingstorm wrote:HotRocks34 wrote:GregOden wrote:At the end of the day it will be ring #4 and he’s either 1A or 1B. It didn’t affect Kobe’s rankings on the all time list.
That's a good point.
To be fair, however, Kobe was dead-set on winning FMVP's (and titles) without Shaq to show he could be "the guy" and not "the sidekick".
Steph isn't a sidekick (well, he was to Durant), obviously. But this is more about, in my mind, what is greater -- the warriors team/culture or Steph as a player?
The Warriors culture is a serious thing. The system, the machine. Of course, much of that machine has to do with Steph, but the machine runs well sometimes even when he's not around.
Personally, I hope Steph wins a FMVP if they win a chip. He's a good guy and it'd be good to see him get one.
Kobe has two Finals MVP.
I know, that's what I alluded to in my post.
After Kobe won 0 FMVP in his first three rings, he was dead-set on getting some FMVP's to show it wasn't just Shaq getting the job done. And Kobe did that (FMVP) in 2009 and 2010.
That is, it's a real motivating factor (FMVP) for some players. Kobe seemed to feel that he might be regarded as "Robin" if he did not have some titles as "the man" (FMVP).
Jokic 31/21/22
Luka & Oscar = 5 x 27/8/8
The Brodie = All-out energy
Luka & Oscar = 5 x 27/8/8
The Brodie = All-out energy