2021-22 NBA Season Discussion

[itsxtray]

Jokic is too emotional which is something he needs to work on. That foul he committed against the suns last year, his retaliation against Morris and how the warriors have him tonight, dude gets too angry when he feels slighted and reacts emotionally.

he is too emotional but his retaliation against morris was fine

I understand why he did it but the way he's acting tonight just put it into perspective for me. Jokic is a guy whose head you can get into if you get physical/troll him a little bit and you never wanna be that guy. There's something to be said for "never get too high or too low." A couple things don't go his way and he's ready to throw a tantrum, gotta be more mature than that.

[LukaTheGOAT]

Smart move on Jokic to get ejected so his plus-minus numbers don't take a bigger hit.

[Peregrine01]

Jokic discourse aside. Tonight's game is a reminder that when Curry is on, there's not a better player in NBA history.

[falcolombardi]

Smart move on Jokic to get ejected so his plus-minus numbers don't take a bigger hit.

jokes aside, i think he still struggles a fair bit with keeping a cool head

i can imagine he is feeling under a lot of pressure here

[Peregrine01]

Smart move on Jokic to get ejected so his plus-minus numbers don't take a bigger hit.

jokes aside, i think he still struggles a fair bit with keeping a cool head

i can imagine he is feeling under a lot of pressure here

If you're a competitor the worst feeling is being completely overmatched.

[GSP]

Smart move on Jokic to get ejected so his plus-minus numbers don't take a bigger hit.

-26 game worst

+6 without him..........

[falcolombardi]

there has to be somethingh nuggets can do tacticslly to help jokic right? it almost felt like nuggets were better with jokic on bench because their usual gameplay plan with him was completely neutered snd they couldnt adapt some counter to it

some way to get him better post up opportunities or more chances to play his game in offense

right now it feels like they are being put completely out of rythim by the warriors D regardless of making or missing shots

there has to be some adjustment to make? right?

[LukaTheGOAT]

Seriously Jokic seems to be pretty cool with Embiid. I don't see why in the off-season he can't work with him to understand how Embiid draws fouls. Jokic seems almost flawless on offense, but with his big body, I feel like he could get more whistles. I get he might deserve more whistles even with his current style, but honestly, you try and get every advantage as you can.

[Peregrine01]

there has to be somethingh nuggets can do tacticslly to help jokic right? it almost felt like nuggets were better with jokic on bench because their usual gameplay plan with him was completely neutered snd they couldnt adapt some counter to it

some way to get him better post up opportunities or more chances to play his game in offense

right now it feels like they are being put completely out of rythim by the warriors D regardless of making or missing shots

there has to be some adjustment to make? right?

Nuggets were better with Jokic on the bench because they played against a worse lineup.

Really not much you can do. They just don't have the defensive personnel. Their supposed best man defender Aaron Gordon has gotten completely cooked by Jordan Poole and dies on every screen.

[itsxtray]

Smart move on Jokic to get ejected so his plus-minus numbers don't take a bigger hit.

-26 game worst

+6 without him..........

Yeah the bench unit wen't on a 14-2 run when it was Curry, Porter, Wiggins, Draymond, & Gp2 i think. Then Jokic came back in as the same time as the new death lineup and they closed the quarter 26-8 and it was a wrap from there. Didn't matter which nuggets players were on the court when that lineup came in, they were gonna dominate. They scored 70 points in 19 minutes.

[Peregrine01]

Seriously Jokic seems to be pretty cool with Embiid. I don't see why in the off-season he can't work with him to understand how Embiid draws fouls. Jokic seems almost flawless on offense, but with his big body, I feel like he could get more whistles. I get he might deserve more whistles even with his current style, but honestly, you try and get every advantage as you can.

I think the reason is quite simple: Embiid plays more like a perimeter player. Post ups never get the kind of calls that drives get and it's a big reason why the big man has been dying out. He's also playing against Draymond, who sets the tone and puts a lot of pressure on refs to swallow the whistle. Kinda like Pat Bev does.

[GSP]

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Another postseason of Donovan Mitchells matchup turning into Mj

his playoff scoring jump doesnt mean a whole lot when hes a horrific passer and one of the worst defensive guards in the league

[itsxtray]

there has to be somethingh nuggets can do tacticslly to help jokic right? it almost felt like nuggets were better with jokic on bench because their usual gameplay plan with him was completely neutered snd they couldnt adapt some counter to it

some way to get him better post up opportunities or more chances to play his game in offense

right now it feels like they are being put completely out of rythim by the warriors D regardless of making or missing shots

there has to be some adjustment to make? right?

Nuggets were better with Jokic on the bench because they played against a worse lineup.

Really not much you can do. They just don't have the defensive personnel. Their supposed best man defender Aaron Gordon has gotten completely cooked by Jordan Poole and dies on every screen.

Yep, Aaron Gordon is much better on wings he doesn't have the lateral agility to stay in front of quick guards, Nuggets desperately need a strong poa defender and someone next to Jokic who can protect the rim like Chandler did for Dirk.

[falcolombardi]

chsnging topic of jokic

anyone else wildly impressed with jalen brunson? dude is surprisingly effective even without luka to be the defense main attention drawer

hope dallas can keep him

[jalengreen]

i dont know the last time ive watched a jazz game where mitchell didnt crumble in the clutch. he's been horrific down the stretch lately. even scoring-wise which is literally all he has to offer

[LukaTheGOAT]

Seriously Jokic seems to be pretty cool with Embiid. I don't see why in the off-season he can't work with him to understand how Embiid draws fouls. Jokic seems almost flawless on offense, but with his big body, I feel like he could get more whistles. I get he might deserve more whistles even with his current style, but honestly, you try and get every advantage as you can.

I think the reason is quite simple: Embiid plays more like a perimeter player. Post ups never get the kind of calls that drives get and it's a big reason why the big man has been dying out. He's also playing against Draymond, who sets the tone and puts a lot of pressure on refs to swallow the whistle. Kinda like Pat Bev does.

I would say historically Embiid has done a pretty good job still getting fouls against the Warriors. However, I see your point about the more perimeter based game, however, it seems as if Embiid seems to be able to generate fouls through post craft that perhaps Jokic doesn't have.

[itsxtray]

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Another postseason of Donovan Mitchells matchup turning into Mj

his playoff scoring jump doesnt mean a whole lot when hes a horrific passer and one of the worst defensive guards in the league

Donovan Mitchell has all the tools to be an elite poa defender but still hasn't turned into a positive on that end. I haven't watched enough Jazz games but is his iq just low on defense or what? Dude was being hunted this game which is wild.

[eminence]

Embiid in general just makes bigger movements, draws more attention from the refs and probably draws more fouls (properly called) as well. Jokic is a fairly subtle guy even when he's banging down low.

[Peregrine01]

Embiid in general just makes bigger movements, draws more attention from the refs and probably draws more fouls (properly called) as well. Jokic is a fairly subtle guy even when he's banging down low.

They've always called drives differently than post-ups even though there's a ton more contact on post-ups. It's always been that way but it's gotten even worse over the years. Jokic also tries to score more than Embiid does, who tries to embellish contact.

[eminence]

Embiid in general just makes bigger movements, draws more attention from the refs and probably draws more fouls (properly called) as well. Jokic is a fairly subtle guy even when he's banging down low.

They've always called drives differently than post-ups even though there's a ton more contact on post-ups. It's always been that way but it's gotten even worse over the years. Jokic also tries to score more than Embiid does, who tries to embellish contact.

Embiid posts up quite a bit more than Jokic, that is part of it for sure.