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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#461 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:28 am

The more I have time to think, the more i think that reality is starting to set in for me.

This team is not winning under these conditions. The coaching is inept. We needed Kyrie to go into Ramadan Kyrie mode just to stay afloat. If he didn't we lose by 20+.

Nash and co will have to prove to me that he can outcoach Ime. Otherwise i feel very uncomfortable about our chances here. Our line up is too small. Bruce Brown is too small to defend Jaylen Brown. We got hammered on the boards. How do we fix that? Can't play Blake together with Drummond since Blake can't shoot anymore. The roster make up is coming back to haunt this team. We need Ben in the worst way, but expecting to be a savior is just asking too much after such a long layoff.

Unlike Nash, Udoka actually studies tape and formulates schemes. He knew that KD cannot handle double team traps well on TOP of physicality. Took him right out of it. Do you have confidence that Nash can counter this? I don't. We have a large enough sample size to know that when faced against superior coaching, Nash is out of his depth.

Our only available wing player is a rookie. I can't expect Edwards to come out there and lock up Jason Tatum.

Maybe if we can get Simmons back by game 3 we can run Kyrie/Edwards/KD/Simmons/Claxton or AD to counter Boston's size. I love Bruce Brown and Seth but we need to adjust because our offense sucks so badly that our small ball line up doesn't even generate open looks for anyone.

If our only hope is nuclear performances from two guys to win, we will lose. Dragic is the only one who is speaking the truth: This is a team sport. If we can't generate good looks for everyone, if we can't play team defense, then this is all for naught.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#462 » by CalamityX12 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:11 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:The more I have time to think, the more i think that reality is starting to set in for me.

This team is not winning under these conditions. The coaching is inept. We needed Kyrie to go into Ramadan Kyrie mode just to stay afloat. If he didn't we lose by 20+.

Nash and co will have to prove to me that he can outcoach Ime. Otherwise i feel very uncomfortable about our chances here. Our line up is too small. Bruce Brown is too small to defend Jaylen Brown. We got hammered on the boards. How do we fix that? Can't play Blake together with Drummond since Blake can't shoot anymore. The roster make up is coming back to haunt this team. We need Ben in the worst way, but expecting to be a savior is just asking too much after such a long layoff.

Unlike Nash, Udoka actually studies tape and formulates schemes. He knew that KD cannot handle double team traps well on TOP of physicality. Took him right out of it. Do you have confidence that Nash can counter this? I don't. We have a large enough sample size to know that when faced against superior coaching, Nash is out of his depth.

Our only available wing player is a rookie. I can't expect Edwards to come out there and lock up Jason Tatum.

Maybe if we can get Simmons back by game 3 we can run Kyrie/Edwards/KD/Simmons/Claxton or AD to counter Boston's size. I love Bruce Brown and Seth but we need to adjust because our offense sucks so badly that our small ball line up doesn't even generate open looks for anyone.

If our only hope is nuclear performances from two guys to win, we will lose. Dragic is the only one who is speaking the truth: This is a team sport. If we can't generate good looks for everyone, if we can't play team defense, then this is all for naught.

That right there is what the higher Brass MUST SEE... if they can't see that, there's no hope.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#463 » by Hello Brooklyn » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:37 pm

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NetsJets wrote:If we can’t win a game when one of our stars goes nuclear and the other is good then you’re essentially asking them to both go crazy in order for us to have a chance. That plus our horrible coaching and I’m not confident. We’re going to lose this series brace yourselves for the Inevitable


They don't both have to go crazy lol.

We just need KD not to play the worst game of his life.

KD and Kyrie average around 30 on elite efficiency. Were not asking them to do anything they don't normally do.

Except KD didn’t play the worse game of his life. We need both of them to go crazy to have a chance at winning this series. KD was decent and Kyrie was great and we still lost. Think about it… we can’t beat a good team with one star being decent, we need both of them to be dynamic. Meanwhile I watched Middleton and Jrue for the Bucks play shakey and they still find a way to win. The 2022 Nets are cooked…


Saying KD was decent is completely wrong lol. He was absolutely terrible.

He had a ton of turnovers. He missed most of his shots. And he had some huge defensive lapses.

We don't need "both of them to go crazy" at all. Not even close.

We basically win that game if not for bad late game execution. And that was with a bad KD.

The Bucks are playing a Bulls team on the verge of collapse lol. Please don't compare.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#464 » by NetsJets » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:40 pm

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They don't both have to go crazy lol.

We just need KD not to play the worst game of his life.

KD and Kyrie average around 30 on elite efficiency. Were not asking them to do anything they don't normally do.

Except KD didn’t play the worse game of his life. We need both of them to go crazy to have a chance at winning this series. KD was decent and Kyrie was great and we still lost. Think about it… we can’t beat a good team with one star being decent, we need both of them to be dynamic. Meanwhile I watched Middleton and Jrue for the Bucks play shakey and they still find a way to win. The 2022 Nets are cooked…


Saying KD was decent is completely wrong lol. He was absolutely terrible.

He had a ton of turnovers. He missed most of his shots. And he had some huge defensive lapses.

We don't need "both of them to go crazy" at all. Not even close.

We basically win that game if not for bad late game execution. And that was with a bad KD.

The Bucks are playing a Bulls team on the verge of collapse lol. Please don't compare.

He did enough to help us win In spite of his turnovers. We were up 5 with 3 minutes left and couldn’t extend the lead. This team is cooked.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#465 » by NetsWorld » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:52 pm

For all the Nets fans getting upset over G1, yes it was frustrating, but if we know anything, KD will not play or perform like that again and will adjust HIMSELF to that defense. I predict a Nets victory in G2. Simmons coming back will affect Boston's offense in G3 and 4; Simmons affected Tatum and Brown defensively when he played the Celtics last year, and oh I forgot to mention, he straight up raped Smart.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#466 » by Hello Brooklyn » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:55 pm

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NetsJets wrote:Except KD didn’t play the worse game of his life. We need both of them to go crazy to have a chance at winning this series. KD was decent and Kyrie was great and we still lost. Think about it… we can’t beat a good team with one star being decent, we need both of them to be dynamic. Meanwhile I watched Middleton and Jrue for the Bucks play shakey and they still find a way to win. The 2022 Nets are cooked…


Saying KD was decent is completely wrong lol. He was absolutely terrible.

He had a ton of turnovers. He missed most of his shots. And he had some huge defensive lapses.

We don't need "both of them to go crazy" at all. Not even close.

We basically win that game if not for bad late game execution. And that was with a bad KD.

The Bucks are playing a Bulls team on the verge of collapse lol. Please don't compare.

He did enough to help us win In spite of his turnovers. We were up 5 with 3 minutes left and couldn’t extend the lead. This team is cooked.


No he didn't.

He couldn't make a shot when it mattered. And he lost Tatum on the game winning drive.

You can choose to be all doom and gloom after on **** game if you want.

I won't. Its 1 game in Boston. We just want one of the first two. Cause they won't play like this and win in Brooklyn.

Even if we go down 2-0 we have even odds to win this series.

We have Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving at their apex. There is no reason to lose.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#467 » by Hello Brooklyn » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:56 pm

KD35Netted wrote:For all the Nets fans getting upset over G1, yes it was frustrating, but if we know anything, KD will not play or perform like that again and will adjust HIMSELF to that defense. I predict a Nets victory in G2. Simmons coming back will affect Boston's offense in G3 and 4; Simmons affected Tatum and Brown defensively when he played the Celtics last year, and oh I forgot to mention, he straight up raped Smart.


Playoff KD is a different animal.

People are forgetting cause of one game.

The entire series is different once KD takes over.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#468 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:02 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
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Hello Brooklyn wrote:
They don't both have to go crazy lol.

We just need KD not to play the worst game of his life.

KD and Kyrie average around 30 on elite efficiency. Were not asking them to do anything they don't normally do.

Except KD didn’t play the worse game of his life. We need both of them to go crazy to have a chance at winning this series. KD was decent and Kyrie was great and we still lost. Think about it… we can’t beat a good team with one star being decent, we need both of them to be dynamic. Meanwhile I watched Middleton and Jrue for the Bucks play shakey and they still find a way to win. The 2022 Nets are cooked…


Saying KD was decent is completely wrong lol. He was absolutely terrible.

He had a ton of turnovers. He missed most of his shots. And he had some huge defensive lapses.

We don't need "both of them to go crazy" at all. Not even close.

We basically win that game if not for bad late game execution. And that was with a bad KD.

The Bucks are playing a Bulls team on the verge of collapse lol. Please don't compare.


That was easily KD's worst game as a Net. An appalling amount of turnovers, completely inefficient and his defensive lapse basically cost the game. If he had stuck with Tatum to disrupt that pass or lay up attempt we win the game.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#469 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:04 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
KD35Netted wrote:For all the Nets fans getting upset over G1, yes it was frustrating, but if we know anything, KD will not play or perform like that again and will adjust HIMSELF to that defense. I predict a Nets victory in G2. Simmons coming back will affect Boston's offense in G3 and 4; Simmons affected Tatum and Brown defensively when he played the Celtics last year, and oh I forgot to mention, he straight up raped Smart.


Playoff KD is a different animal.

People are forgetting cause of one game.

The entire series is different once KD takes over.



Do you expect Nash to adjust to what Boston is doing? I don't. Udoka has zero reason not to send a wall of defenders at Durant every time he touches the ball.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#470 » by NetsJets » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:28 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
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Saying KD was decent is completely wrong lol. He was absolutely terrible.

He had a ton of turnovers. He missed most of his shots. And he had some huge defensive lapses.

We don't need "both of them to go crazy" at all. Not even close.

We basically win that game if not for bad late game execution. And that was with a bad KD.

The Bucks are playing a Bulls team on the verge of collapse lol. Please don't compare.

He did enough to help us win In spite of his turnovers. We were up 5 with 3 minutes left and couldn’t extend the lead. This team is cooked.


No he didn't.

He couldn't make a shot when it mattered. And he lost Tatum on the game winning drive.

You can choose to be all doom and gloom after on **** game if you want.

I won't. Its 1 game in Boston. We just want one of the first two. Cause they won't play like this and win in Brooklyn.

Even if we go down 2-0 we have even odds to win this series.

We have Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving at their apex. There is no reason to lose.

He made the go ahead basket late to give us a two point lead with a minute and change left. I’m not ignoring his faults in that game, but the point remains we had this game in the bag and couldn’t get it done. This is a continued pattern with this team even going as far back as last year.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#471 » by CalamityX12 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:04 pm

Lets not forget, where we had room to improve so does Boston....

One team plays high level defense more so through the game than the other.

GM 1 was a missed opportunity based on how it played out.

GM 2 is a must win for me. so we're still in this but I am throwing the towel if we drop it.

Had this been last years squad, going down 0-2 wouldn't have worried me to be honest.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#472 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:51 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:The more I have time to think, the more i think that reality is starting to set in for me.

This team is not winning under these conditions. The coaching is inept. We needed Kyrie to go into Ramadan Kyrie mode just to stay afloat. If he didn't we lose by 20+.

Nash and co will have to prove to me that he can outcoach Ime. Otherwise i feel very uncomfortable about our chances here. Our line up is too small. Bruce Brown is too small to defend Jaylen Brown. We got hammered on the boards. How do we fix that? Can't play Blake together with Drummond since Blake can't shoot anymore. The roster make up is coming back to haunt this team. We need Ben in the worst way, but expecting to be a savior is just asking too much after such a long layoff.

Unlike Nash, Udoka actually studies tape and formulates schemes. He knew that KD cannot handle double team traps well on TOP of physicality. Took him right out of it. Do you have confidence that Nash can counter this? I don't. We have a large enough sample size to know that when faced against superior coaching, Nash is out of his depth.

Our only available wing player is a rookie. I can't expect Edwards to come out there and lock up Jason Tatum.

Maybe if we can get Simmons back by game 3 we can run Kyrie/Edwards/KD/Simmons/Claxton or AD to counter Boston's size. I love Bruce Brown and Seth but we need to adjust because our offense sucks so badly that our small ball line up doesn't even generate open looks for anyone.

If our only hope is nuclear performances from two guys to win, we will lose. Dragic is the only one who is speaking the truth: This is a team sport. If we can't generate good looks for everyone, if we can't play team defense, then this is all for naught.


This is spot on how i feel, only its not reality setting in for me its how i felt going in...

The talk is all "KD played bad and we lost by 1 on the buzzer on the road, we good" when it should be "Kyrie went beserk GOD-Rie mode, boston played like trash, and we still lost"

What Boston did to KD can 100% be replicated. maybe he shoots or play a bit better, he is super elite, but I have seen and said it for over a year and Ime saw it up close as a coach here. you hard pressure.double KD and he is going to turn it over a ton. Props to KD, he keeps his head up and doesnt get too frustrated, but Ime will keep doing it, Nash wont adjust and it will be some no so efficient 30 point + 5 turnover games for KD. And we can likely see less then 40 points on 20 shots from kyrie even if he is still great all series.

It was clear we struggled to defend with Kyrie + Seth + brown lineups, we kept running them out. Nash didn't trust the rookie, which is fine except marks cut our only other wing/PF option to make room for him while we had 3 centers get a DNP-CD. Makes sense right? no, no it doesnt.

People are throwing some shade at KD. its not his fault. (not in the view of this game at least, you can blame him for not improving in an obviously flawed area) But your coaches need to put you in positions to succeed. KD has only 1 flaw. he is elite at basically everything else. our coaching puts him in position for defenses to easily attack his flaw. isolation mid-baseline and foul line extended post ups. his back is to the defense. it takes time to get him the ball cause he has to fight for possesion. the defense can watch and time their double teams. he will stuggle to see and react to them.

WHY? why?... like... why? Run him off action. use him as a screener for curry then come off his own screen. that will force off ball switches on be quick hitting making it tougher to double. get him the ball where he can catch and attack.

Also... up by 1, 36 seconds left. WTF DID YOU NOT CALL A TIMEOUT?!?!?

You could have subbed in curry/mills to get spacing so they coudlnt triple team kyrie. you could have... and i know this is a crazy concept DRAWN UP AN EFFING PLAY so that we arent watching KD chuck up some nonsense as the shot clock expires after Kyrie has to try and evade a triple team.

During that timeout we could have also done something like... i dont know... communicate some kind of defensive strategy for the last possession? one that doesnt involve letting tatum cut uncontested to the hoop?

Such a terrible loss. Nets fans deserved this win. Kyrie deserved this win. inexcusable coaching loss. and worst is people see 1 point and bad KD game and shrug it away as bad luck when the reality is that boston played awful... they bricked wide open shot after wide open shot.

Marks and Nash need to go.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#473 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:53 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
NetsJets wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
They don't both have to go crazy lol.

We just need KD not to play the worst game of his life.

KD and Kyrie average around 30 on elite efficiency. Were not asking them to do anything they don't normally do.

Except KD didn’t play the worse game of his life. We need both of them to go crazy to have a chance at winning this series. KD was decent and Kyrie was great and we still lost. Think about it… we can’t beat a good team with one star being decent, we need both of them to be dynamic. Meanwhile I watched Middleton and Jrue for the Bucks play shakey and they still find a way to win. The 2022 Nets are cooked…


Saying KD was decent is completely wrong lol. He was absolutely terrible.

He had a ton of turnovers. He missed most of his shots. And he had some huge defensive lapses.

We don't need "both of them to go crazy" at all. Not even close.

We basically win that game if not for bad late game execution. And that was with a bad KD.

The Bucks are playing a Bulls team on the verge of collapse lol. Please don't compare.


We could have won with a few breaks. we also could have lost by 20 if they didnt brick open shot after open shot (i believe 5-18 on "wide open threes". for them

my gut says KD will struggle to some degree all series, cause they wont change, he wont magically be less turnover prone and nash wont adjust. and on the flip side, they likely dont brick 70% of their wide open looks all series.

The coaching difference is just WAY to massive. and ina 7 game series with tons of prep, it matters a ton. We basically negate 1 entire superstar with our coaching being like a -15
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#474 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:55 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
KD35Netted wrote:For all the Nets fans getting upset over G1, yes it was frustrating, but if we know anything, KD will not play or perform like that again and will adjust HIMSELF to that defense. I predict a Nets victory in G2. Simmons coming back will affect Boston's offense in G3 and 4; Simmons affected Tatum and Brown defensively when he played the Celtics last year, and oh I forgot to mention, he straight up raped Smart.


Playoff KD is a different animal.

People are forgetting cause of one game.

The entire series is different once KD takes over.



Do you expect Nash to adjust to what Boston is doing? I don't. Udoka has zero reason not to send a wall of defenders at Durant every time he touches the ball.



Yup. This is the spolestra vs. Giannis/J.kidd all over again. Super elite player has 1 flaw, elite coach attacks that flaw, terrible inept coach doesnt adjust, series over
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#475 » by NetsJets » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:59 pm

What’s maddening was on our last offensive possession despite Kyrie and KD getting hard doubled, somehow no one was open. Why? Because everyone was standing around watching. Then on our last defensive possession we were watching the ball no movement.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#476 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:01 pm

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Props to Kyrie...

He went into a situation where the fans were coming at him and the media already had the articles written if he played poorly. He played like an MVP and basically willed us to a win before nash threw it away.

Then he gives it back to the fans as he does work on their team.

the stuff being said was vile. Boston fans need to look themselves in the mirror. booing and "you suck" is fine. yeling F words, N works, P words, C words... that stuff is bad. there are kids there hearing that stuff

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Post#477 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:03 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Curry was also trash this game.

Hes supposed to be out third best player.

You give me a good KD game, a good Curry game and 80% of Kyrie and we should win.

As long as the defense can be competent.


Curry was great early. Ime adjusted. Nash didnt. 8 points on 4 shots in the 1st i think.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#478 » by NetsJets » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:03 pm

Stop letting KD walk the ball up use him in mainly catch and shoot situations or situations where he can make a quick decision to dribble pass or shoot. That should neutralize some of the hard doubling and trapping from the Celtics.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#479 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:04 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:In a 1 pt loss.... remember that botched inbounds where everyone went deep? Easy TO to pts for Smart....

Smh


alot of those. Dragic behind the back pass to the other team on a 3 on1 break. drummond intercepted by brown on a full court pass he had no reason throwing. bruce brown goiing 1 on 5 on the break.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#480 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:32 pm

3pt_chucker wrote:Nets need to have a clean game 2. No more unfocused, sloppy turnovers. Need more from Bruce Brown and Drummond. Get more shots for Patty and Seth.

I'm down to give Drummond one more game but he is looking like a huge liability vs the Celtics. Blake or Aldridge might be a better match up with Clax starting.

KD has a bad habit of rushing shots when this are going wrong/teams gt overly physical with him. He needs to get in a better rhythm to start the game, so he feels comfortable. I'm sure we'll adjust how we set up his shots.


the celtics have no active player over 6'9". Drummond should be a factor. but we dont put him in a position to be.

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