2021-22 NBA Season Discussion

[Peregrine01]

Embiid in general just makes bigger movements, draws more attention from the refs and probably draws more fouls (properly called) as well. Jokic is a fairly subtle guy even when he's banging down low.

They've always called drives differently than post-ups even though there's a ton more contact on post-ups. It's always been that way but it's gotten even worse over the years. Jokic also tries to score more than Embiid does, who tries to embellish contact.

Embiid posts up quite a bit more than Jokic, that is part of it for sure.

I haven't seen the stats to be sure. But I see Embiid face up more than he posts and I think the play counters count them as post-ups.

[falcolombardi]

embiid gets more of his fouls from drving, drives and offensive rebounds/shots in the restricted area are where most free throws come from

i domt know if embiid deserves ALL of his free throws but is true that he forces a ton of them just by driving past his man and forcing a foul

[sp6r=underrated]

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Another postseason of Donovan Mitchells matchup turning into Mj

his playoff scoring jump doesnt mean a whole lot when hes a horrific passer and one of the worst defensive guards in the league

Exactly drives me nuts when he's described as a good defender. He's one of the worst defensive guards in recent memory and an engregious underachiever.

A guy like Trae has real physical limitations that place a ceiling him.

What is Donavan's excuse?

[Peregrine01]

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Another postseason of Donovan Mitchells matchup turning into Mj

his playoff scoring jump doesnt mean a whole lot when hes a horrific passer and one of the worst defensive guards in the league

Exactly drives me nuts when he's described as a good defender. He's one of the worst defensive guards in recent memory and an engregious underachiever.

A guy like Trae has real physical limitations that place a ceiling him.

What is Donavan's excuse?

That he has Rudy to funnel to.

[letskissbro]

2 game sample but the Nuggets have a 137.3 DRTG with Jokic on the floor against the Warriors, and 108.6 with him off (+28.7 net)
Jordan Poole: 30/3/6 on 66% TS
Steph Curry: 25/3/4 on 73% TS in 23 mpg

2021: 124.7 on, 121.4 off (+3.3 net)
Damien Lillard: 34/4/10 on 66% TS
Chris Paul 26/5/10 on 74% TS

2020: 119.0 on, 107.9 off (+11.1 net)
Donovan Mitchell: 36/5/5 on 70% TS
Mike Conley: 20/3/5 on 67% TS

Are the Nuggets outmatched? Yes. But it's pretty clear from what I've watched that having Jokic on the court makes the game very simple for offenses with elite guards and ball movement.

[LukaTheGOAT]

Jokic discourse aside. Tonight's game is a reminder that when Curry is on, there's not a better player in NBA history.

Eh, not sure this game is necessarily a reminder of the true greatness Steph has reached. CP3 last year against the Nuggets averaged 25.5 pts per game on a 74.3 TS% with 10.3 assists per game (42% assist percentage). He might've actually had the highest game score of his career against them. Denver can't guard pull-up shooters well as currently constructed.

[Jaivl]

Jokic discourse aside. Tonight's game is a reminder that when Curry is on, there's not a better player in NBA history.

"When X is on, there's not a better player in NBA history" applies to a hella lot of players, though.

[LukaTheGOAT]

2 game sample but the Nuggets have a 137.3 DRTG with Jokic on the floor against the Warriors, and 108.6 with him off (+28.7 net)
Jordan Poole: 30/3/6 on 66% TS
Steph Curry: 25/3/4 on 73% TS in 23 mpg

2021: 124.7 on, 121.4 off (+3.3 net)
Damien Lillard: 34/4/10 on 66% TS
Chris Paul 26/5/10 on 74% TS

2020: 119.0 on, 107.9 off (+11.1 net)
Donovan Mitchell: 36/5/5 on 70% TS
Mike Conley: 20/3/5 on 67% TS

Are the Nuggets outmatched? Yes. But it's pretty clear from what I've watched that having Jokic on the court makes the game very simple for offenses with elite guards and ball movement.

Someone did a breakdown on Jokic pick and roll defensive possessions. Definitely don't believe all of them are his fault and I can't help but feel like a more creative scheme could help Jokic look a bit better at the least but this is something to keep an eye on.

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[Peregrine01]

Jokic discourse aside. Tonight's game is a reminder that when Curry is on, there's not a better player in NBA history.

"When X is on, there's not a better player in NBA history" applies to a hella lot of players, though.

Yes but no player can utterly kill a team in mere minutes like a hot Curry can. And then the defense is all flustered and panicked about where he is that it leads to wide open layups right under the rim.

[HeartBreakKid]

Not sure about Smart getting DPOY, but at least it'll give him some credibility when people discuss where he's at as an all time defensive guard.

[MyUniBroDavis]

Jokic discourse aside. Tonight's game is a reminder that when Curry is on, there's not a better player in NBA history.

"When X is on, there's not a better player in NBA history" applies to a hella lot of players, though.

Yes but no player can utterly kill a team in mere minutes like a hot Curry can. And then the defense is all flustered and panicked about where he is that it leads to wide open layups right under the rim.

Supernova Klay appears and takes a dump on the city of sacramento

[MyUniBroDavis]

2 game sample but the Nuggets have a 137.3 DRTG with Jokic on the floor against the Warriors, and 108.6 with him off (+28.7 net)
Jordan Poole: 30/3/6 on 66% TS
Steph Curry: 25/3/4 on 73% TS in 23 mpg

2021: 124.7 on, 121.4 off (+3.3 net)
Damien Lillard: 34/4/10 on 66% TS
Chris Paul 26/5/10 on 74% TS

2020: 119.0 on, 107.9 off (+11.1 net)
Donovan Mitchell: 36/5/5 on 70% TS
Mike Conley: 20/3/5 on 67% TS

Are the Nuggets outmatched? Yes. But it's pretty clear from what I've watched that having Jokic on the court makes the game very simple for offenses with elite guards and ball movement.

Someone did a breakdown on Jokic pick and roll defensive possessions. Definitely don't believe all of them are his fault and I can't help but feel like a more creative scheme could help Jokic look a bit better at the least but this is something to keep an eye on.

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How dare you call Devin Williams someone

Jokic being mad at getting spanked is hilarious

(This isn’t me trolling saying he was getting destroyed, I’m talking about when he got spanked and got mad lol that was funny)

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[parsnips33]

Steph +32 in 23 minutes. Could somebody remind him it's the playoffs? He's only supposed to do this stuff in the regular season

[parsnips33]

What Draymond is doing to a guy who just had maybe the greatest offensive season by a player in history...

[LukaTheGOAT]

2 game sample but the Nuggets have a 137.3 DRTG with Jokic on the floor against the Warriors, and 108.6 with him off (+28.7 net)
Jordan Poole: 30/3/6 on 66% TS
Steph Curry: 25/3/4 on 73% TS in 23 mpg

2021: 124.7 on, 121.4 off (+3.3 net)
Damien Lillard: 34/4/10 on 66% TS
Chris Paul 26/5/10 on 74% TS

2020: 119.0 on, 107.9 off (+11.1 net)
Donovan Mitchell: 36/5/5 on 70% TS
Mike Conley: 20/3/5 on 67% TS

Are the Nuggets outmatched? Yes. But it's pretty clear from what I've watched that having Jokic on the court makes the game very simple for offenses with elite guards and ball movement.

Someone did a breakdown on Jokic pick and roll defensive possessions. Definitely don't believe all of them are his fault and I can't help but feel like a more creative scheme could help Jokic look a bit better at the least but this is something to keep an eye on.

Watch on YouTube

How dare you call Devin Williams someone

Jokic being mad at getting spanked is hilarious

(This isn’t me trolling saying he was getting destroyed, I’m talking about when he got spanked and got mad lol that was funny)

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Lol no disrespect to Devin Williams. I practice his ball-handling drills.

[LukaTheGOAT]

Mavs defense has done a great job so far in limiting Utah's 3 point attempts. Regular Season Utah: 40.3 attempts (2nd most in nba) 14.5 made per game
first 2 games Playoffs Utah: 25.5 attempts 9.0 made per game

During the regular season the Jazz had the highest 3FG Freq in NBA. And lowest 2FG Freq. Regular season 3FG Freq 46.8% and playoffs it's 30.9% so far. Mavs defense has done a great job so far in limiting Utah's 3 point attempts. Regular Season Utah: 40.3 attempts (2nd most in nba) 14.5 made per game
first 2 games Playoffs Utah: 25.5 attempts 9.0 made per game

During the regular season the Jazz had the highest 3FG Freq in NBA. And lowest 2FG Freq. Regular season 3FG Freq 46.8% and playoffs it's 30.9% so far.

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2022/4/19/23031527/the-mavericks-defensive-game-plan-execution-have-been-perfect-against-the-jazz

[PaulieWal]

Some of you need to cool it on the Curry/Warriors superlatives and hyperbole. They are up 2-0 on a crumbling Denver team in the 1st round which is looking to be a terrible match-up for them. They don't have the defensive personnel to slow it down or a superstar who's just grinding out every possession (LeBron did this against the Warriors in 2015 & 2018).

Yeah, the Warriors look good as many expected and should be getting to WCF against the Suns but reading this thread it would seem like they are up 3-0 in the WCF or the Finals or something

[Colbinii]

Some of you need to cool it on the Curry/Warriors superlatives and hyperbole. They are up 2-0 on a crumbling Denver team in the 1st round which is looking to be a terrible match-up for them. They don't have the defensive personnel to slow it down or a superstar who's just grinding out every possession (LeBron did this against the Warriors in 2015 & 2018).

Yeah, the Warriors look good as many expected and should be getting to WCF against the Suns but reading this thread it would seem like they are up 3-0 in the WCF or the Finals or something

Why can't we overreact to a drop-coverage system with Bones Hyland, Austin Rivers, Bryn Forbes and Monte Morris holding down the guard rotation against an offense with Curry, Poole and Klay?

[PaulieWal]

Some of you need to cool it on the Curry/Warriors superlatives and hyperbole. They are up 2-0 on a crumbling Denver team in the 1st round which is looking to be a terrible match-up for them. They don't have the defensive personnel to slow it down or a superstar who's just grinding out every possession (LeBron did this against the Warriors in 2015 & 2018).

Yeah, the Warriors look good as many expected and should be getting to WCF against the Suns but reading this thread it would seem like they are up 3-0 in the WCF or the Finals or something

Why can't we overreact to a drop-coverage system with Bones Hyland, Austin Rivers, Bryn Forbes and Monte Morris holding down the guard rotation against an offense with Curry, Poole and Klay?

You mean Hyland, Rivers, Forbes, and Morris are no match for the GOAT Curry, 4th on the all-time list Poole, 3rd best player ever Klay, and the 2nd GOAT/best DEFENDER ever Green? Let's just call these games off and hand the Warriors the trophy lol.

[parsnips33]

Warriors are just making a fool out of the guy who has better advanced stats than Jesus please let's not overreact