thebuzzardman wrote:cgmw wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:
Another reason I don't include Randle in Brunson trades is that I think the team is committed to him, for now, like it or not.
Knicks give Randle the extension. Randle plays some financial ball with the team buy taking less so there is some flexibility.
Randle starts to stink up the joint and pout, Thibs never reduces his minutes until the VERY end of the season, where it seems like Knicks want to get a longer look at Obi
Randle pouts, gets into it with fans, Knicks not only tolerate this behavior but put up some fine money and support him.
Knicks CAA and Kentucky connections
And so on.
I think the Knicks give it a shot with Randle plus a legit upgrade at PG somehow and maybe even a stretch 5/better C.
Gut feeling, and it's not based on strongly liking Brunson or hating Mitch, but feels like the Knicks do some version of the following:
Mitch plus parts for Brunson plus parts (Mavs parts are Bertrans and whatever else, Knick parts are grab bag choice of Fournier/Burks/Walker, a pick, not sure if Mavs need "a youth" to do the deal
Knicks trade for Turner
Knicks draft non offensively limited C capable of hitting a jumper, picking and popping as well as rolling, instead of just a roll man.
I'm not advocating these trades, even though I did briefly stan for idea of Turner. Nor do I think they make the Knicks that great.
I think these are the beginning moves.
Knicks still then hold some assets and Randle as the basis for Zion if it ever happens where Zion becomes first guy not to pick up the qualifying offer etc etc.
Turner
Randle
Burks
Donovan
Brunson
We’d have to trade every other FRP til 2030, but Steve Mills’ Board of Directors Knicks would do it. Especially if we can pickup Andre Drummond too.
I know you hate Dolan, Knicks gonna chase vets blah blah blah.
I don't think they have the assets to go Brunson and Turner, no less Mitchell. In fact, if they were to somehow get Mitchell (which I think is highly unlikely) they won't have any assets left for anyone.
So, my GUESS is that the Knicks trade for a PG and draft a more versatile C OR trade for a more versatile C and draft a PG.
I was just going full Besart on your premise. If they go in on either Zion or Donovan, expect them also to trade literally every possible young guy and FRP to fill out the remaining rotation spots.
The Thibs-Mills-Leon dream team would feature a Turner/Drummond duo at C and Brunson/DRose at PG.
