2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1

[MGrand15]

Frustrating to give away a winnable game but I've moved on. I felt like Boston played well and we didn't. It took some terrible late game execution and we lost by 1 at the buzzer.

We can talk about the doubling on KD but he was getting stripped by Horford and Theis 1v1. He was just out of sorts all game. I expect him to be much better.

The coaching wasn't great as usual but I'm putting a lot of this on the players. Kyrie hit a 3 with 45 seconds left. Boston calls a timeout. I understand you don't want to give up a 3 or an easy foul but Jaylen Brown got the ball in the back court and got an easy layup in SEVEN seconds. In that situation, even if we force them to use clock before the score - it puts them in a tough position. Instead, they got the perfect 2 for 1 and set them up for the win. Getting outscored by 15 in the first 6 minutes of the 2nd half is just unacceptable too. A lot of silly plays + lazy plays.

We need to be more willing to play Edwards. If we need a stop, we can't have Curry or Dragic on the floor. Maybe Ben takes that spot when he's healthy but if we strictly need a stop, we need more size on the floor.

Brown just needs to be better. He was a non-factor. Our rebounding needs to be better. I don't care if we're small. Giving Horford and Theis 10 combined offensive boards was killer.

Overall, outside of potentially swapping Claxton for Drummond + finding the right spots for KD, I don't see any major changes that need to be made. We just need to be sharper.

[MrDollarBills]

The more I have time to think, the more i think that reality is starting to set in for me.

This team is not winning under these conditions. The coaching is inept. We needed Kyrie to go into Ramadan Kyrie mode just to stay afloat. If he didn't we lose by 20+.

Nash and co will have to prove to me that he can outcoach Ime. Otherwise i feel very uncomfortable about our chances here. Our line up is too small. Bruce Brown is too small to defend Jaylen Brown. We got hammered on the boards. How do we fix that? Can't play Blake together with Drummond since Blake can't shoot anymore. The roster make up is coming back to haunt this team. We need Ben in the worst way, but expecting to be a savior is just asking too much after such a long layoff.

Unlike Nash, Udoka actually studies tape and formulates schemes. He knew that KD cannot handle double team traps well on TOP of physicality. Took him right out of it. Do you have confidence that Nash can counter this? I don't. We have a large enough sample size to know that when faced against superior coaching, Nash is out of his depth.

Our only available wing player is a rookie. I can't expect Edwards to come out there and lock up Jason Tatum.

Maybe if we can get Simmons back by game 3 we can run Kyrie/Edwards/KD/Simmons/Claxton or AD to counter Boston's size. I love Bruce Brown and Seth but we need to adjust because our offense sucks so badly that our small ball line up doesn't even generate open looks for anyone.

If our only hope is nuclear performances from two guys to win, we will lose. Dragic is the only one who is speaking the truth: This is a team sport. If we can't generate good looks for everyone, if we can't play team defense, then this is all for naught.

This is spot on how i feel, only its not reality setting in for me its how i felt going in...

The talk is all "KD played bad and we lost by 1 on the buzzer on the road, we good" when it should be "Kyrie went beserk GOD-Rie mode, boston played like trash, and we still lost"

What Boston did to KD can 100% be replicated. maybe he shoots or play a bit better, he is super elite, but I have seen and said it for over a year and Ime saw it up close as a coach here. you hard pressure.double KD and he is going to turn it over a ton. Props to KD, he keeps his head up and doesnt get too frustrated, but Ime will keep doing it, Nash wont adjust and it will be some no so efficient 30 point + 5 turnover games for KD. And we can likely see less then 40 points on 20 shots from kyrie even if he is still great all series.

It was clear we struggled to defend with Kyrie + Seth + brown lineups, we kept running them out. Nash didn't trust the rookie, which is fine except marks cut our only other wing/PF option to make room for him while we had 3 centers get a DNP-CD. Makes sense right? no, no it doesnt.

People are throwing some shade at KD. its not his fault. (not in the view of this game at least, you can blame him for not improving in an obviously flawed area) But your coaches need to put you in positions to succeed. KD has only 1 flaw. he is elite at basically everything else. our coaching puts him in position for defenses to easily attack his flaw. isolation mid-baseline and foul line extended post ups. his back is to the defense. it takes time to get him the ball cause he has to fight for possesion. the defense can watch and time their double teams. he will stuggle to see and react to them.

WHY? why?... like... why? Run him off action. use him as a screener for curry then come off his own screen. that will force off ball switches on be quick hitting making it tougher to double. get him the ball where he can catch and attack.

Also... up by 1, 36 seconds left. WTF DID YOU NOT CALL A TIMEOUT?!?!?

You could have subbed in curry/mills to get spacing so they coudlnt triple team kyrie. you could have... and i know this is a crazy concept DRAWN UP AN EFFING PLAY so that we arent watching KD chuck up some nonsense as the shot clock expires after Kyrie has to try and evade a triple team.

During that timeout we could have also done something like... i dont know... communicate some kind of defensive strategy for the last possession? one that doesnt involve letting tatum cut uncontested to the hoop?

Such a terrible loss. Nets fans deserved this win. Kyrie deserved this win. inexcusable coaching loss. and worst is people see 1 point and bad KD game and shrug it away as bad luck when the reality is that boston played awful... they bricked wide open shot after wide open shot.

Marks and Nash need to go.

Kyrie endured a ton of abuse during that game and played on God Level Super Mode. I felt worse for him than I did about us as fans, Kyrie went to war out there and the folks in charge of the strategic aspects of the game hung him and the rest of the team out to dry.

KD sucked and made a critical error, but it isn't like Nash put him out there in ways to counter.

Why aren't we running off ball action screens to free KD up?

Why aren't we running a 1-4 PNP with Kyrie and KD?

I mean, you can ask a ton of questions and it all boils down to ineptness from Steve Nash and by default, Sean Marks.

I am with you. Nash needs to go, and Marks should be on the hot seat if not fired outright. I would give Marks one more chance, but it starts with HIM admitting his mistake and going to ownership and saying that we need to go in a different direction.

A better coach with this roster would have picked Boston apart.

[MrDollarBills]

Frustrating to give away a winnable game but I've moved on. I felt like Boston played well and we didn't. It took some terrible late game execution and we lost by 1 at the buzzer.

We can talk about the doubling on KD but he was getting stripped by Horford and Theis 1v1. He was just out of sorts all game. I expect him to be much better.

The coaching wasn't great as usual but I'm putting a lot of this on the players. Kyrie hit a 3 with 45 seconds left. Boston calls a timeout. I understand you don't want to give up a 3 or an easy foul but Jaylen Brown got the ball in the back court and got an easy layup in SEVEN seconds. In that situation, even if we force them to use clock before the score - it puts them in a tough position. Instead, they got the perfect 2 for 1 and set them up for the win. Getting outscored by 15 in the first 6 minutes of the 2nd half is just unacceptable too. A lot of silly plays + lazy plays.

We need to be more willing to play Edwards. If we need a stop, we can't have Curry or Dragic on the floor. Maybe Ben takes that spot when he's healthy but if we strictly need a stop, we need more size on the floor.

Brown just needs to be better. He was a non-factor. Our rebounding needs to be better. I don't care if we're small. Giving Horford and Theis 10 combined offensive boards was killer.

Overall, outside of potentially swapping Claxton for Drummond + finding the right spots for KD, I don't see any major changes that need to be made. We just need to be sharper.

I agree with you for the most part but it is a tall order to ask dudes that are 6'4 and under to try and box out Al Horford.

[NetsJets]

In retrospect and this isn’t a defense of said player but considering the circumstances we might’ve been better off keeping James Johnson because at least he has size to battle with Horford and Theis in the paint, since Trash refuses to play Blake.

[Netaman]

i think 1 low key mistake in that 4th Q was playing Brown so much on 5 fouls when they already also had Kyrie out there on 4 also.

Brown isn't useful if he's playing to not foul. Should have had Edwards or Curry out there and saved Brown for end of game knowing he might foul out if necessary.

[CalamityX12]

Finally heard Hahn and Scott podcast from yesterday, luv'd how Bart destroyed Nash for his incompetence..... it made me a little better lol

like imagine if we were a team that the NYC market actually covered and harassed like they do with the Knicks,.... this all of a sudden Nash has no idea what he's doing segments would've been out there since the end of last season and entering into this one.

[Hello Brooklyn]

He did enough to help us win In spite of his turnovers. We were up 5 with 3 minutes left and couldn’t extend the lead. This team is cooked.

No he didn't.

He couldn't make a shot when it mattered. And he lost Tatum on the game winning drive.

You can choose to be all doom and gloom after on **** game if you want.

I won't. Its 1 game in Boston. We just want one of the first two. Cause they won't play like this and win in Brooklyn.

Even if we go down 2-0 we have even odds to win this series.

We have Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving at their apex. There is no reason to lose.

He made the go ahead basket late to give us a two point lead with a minute and change left. I’m not ignoring his faults in that game, but the point remains we had this game in the bag and couldn’t get it done. This is a continued pattern with this team even going as far back as last year.

One good basket in an overall terrible game.

Its literally one game and youre giving up on the Nets. Just stupid.

If we win Game 2 the entire series shifts.

And youre acting like its impossible after we lost on a game winner

[NetsJets]

Kessler Edwards is a good shooter but he’s so streaky he’s cold at the wrong time. Without his shooting he’s not really worth playing since he’s average at best at everything else. My solution since Trash won’t actually play Aldridge or Griffin is to run a big lineup of Drummond and Claxton to go against their big interior.

[NetsJets]

No he didn't.

He couldn't make a shot when it mattered. And he lost Tatum on the game winning drive.

You can choose to be all doom and gloom after on **** game if you want.

I won't. Its 1 game in Boston. We just want one of the first two. Cause they won't play like this and win in Brooklyn.

Even if we go down 2-0 we have even odds to win this series.

We have Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving at their apex. There is no reason to lose.

He made the go ahead basket late to give us a two point lead with a minute and change left. I’m not ignoring his faults in that game, but the point remains we had this game in the bag and couldn’t get it done. This is a continued pattern with this team even going as far back as last year.

One good basket in an overall terrible game.

Its literally one game and youre giving up on the Nets. Just stupid.

If we win Game 2 the entire series shifts.

And youre acting like its impossible after we lost on a game winner

No he made several big baskets. He was bad but he still did enough to help us win a game we shouldn’t have lost. I’m not sure what gives you this confidence in this team.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Playoff KD is a different animal.

People are forgetting cause of one game.

The entire series is different once KD takes over.

Do you expect Nash to adjust to what Boston is doing? I don't. Udoka has zero reason not to send a wall of defenders at Durant every time he touches the ball.

Yup. This is the spolestra vs. Giannis/J.kidd all over again. Super elite player has 1 flaw, elite coach attacks that flaw, terrible inept coach doesnt adjust, series over

Youre being extremely hyperbolic.

KD being a bad passer out of double teams is not some fatal flaw that can be exploited by other teams consistently.

Hes the best player in the world. He can make adjustments and pass to the other player.

He also will start making a ton of shots freeing up Kyrie. Something we never saw last game.

If you really think Boston can limit KD you are delusional. He is unstoppable.

[Hello Brooklyn]

He made the go ahead basket late to give us a two point lead with a minute and change left. I’m not ignoring his faults in that game, but the point remains we had this game in the bag and couldn’t get it done. This is a continued pattern with this team even going as far back as last year.

One good basket in an overall terrible game.

Its literally one game and youre giving up on the Nets. Just stupid.

If we win Game 2 the entire series shifts.

And youre acting like its impossible after we lost on a game winner

No he made several big baskets. He was bad but he still did enough to help us win a game we shouldn’t have lost. I’m not sure what gives you this confidence in this team.

He didn't make "several" big baskets. LOL

No he didn't do enough to help us win. He left Kyrie on his own to do everything.

We still are the most talented team. And KD is the best player.

We should win.

Crying about 1 game is just stupid.

Why do you follow sports if you just give up the minute something goes wrong?

[NetsJets]

One good basket in an overall terrible game.

Its literally one game and youre giving up on the Nets. Just stupid.

If we win Game 2 the entire series shifts.

And youre acting like its impossible after we lost on a game winner

No he made several big baskets. He was bad but he still did enough to help us win a game we shouldn’t have lost. I’m not sure what gives you this confidence in this team.

He didn't make "several" big baskets. LOL

No he didn't do enough to help us win. He left Kyrie on his own to do everything.

We still are the most talented team. And KD is the best player.

We should win.

Crying about 1 game is just stupid.

Why do you follow sports if you just give up the minute something goes wrong?

He didn’t do anything to help us win? That’s hyperbole to say the least. I’m being realistic about this team based on a large sample size. We’re now praying for Ben Simmons to make his debut in the middle of a playoff series to save us. We’re cooked.

[Prokorov]

The more I have time to think, the more i think that reality is starting to set in for me.

This team is not winning under these conditions. The coaching is inept. We needed Kyrie to go into Ramadan Kyrie mode just to stay afloat. If he didn't we lose by 20+.

Nash and co will have to prove to me that he can outcoach Ime. Otherwise i feel very uncomfortable about our chances here. Our line up is too small. Bruce Brown is too small to defend Jaylen Brown. We got hammered on the boards. How do we fix that? Can't play Blake together with Drummond since Blake can't shoot anymore. The roster make up is coming back to haunt this team. We need Ben in the worst way, but expecting to be a savior is just asking too much after such a long layoff.

Unlike Nash, Udoka actually studies tape and formulates schemes. He knew that KD cannot handle double team traps well on TOP of physicality. Took him right out of it. Do you have confidence that Nash can counter this? I don't. We have a large enough sample size to know that when faced against superior coaching, Nash is out of his depth.

Our only available wing player is a rookie. I can't expect Edwards to come out there and lock up Jason Tatum.

Maybe if we can get Simmons back by game 3 we can run Kyrie/Edwards/KD/Simmons/Claxton or AD to counter Boston's size. I love Bruce Brown and Seth but we need to adjust because our offense sucks so badly that our small ball line up doesn't even generate open looks for anyone.

If our only hope is nuclear performances from two guys to win, we will lose. Dragic is the only one who is speaking the truth: This is a team sport. If we can't generate good looks for everyone, if we can't play team defense, then this is all for naught.

This is spot on how i feel, only its not reality setting in for me its how i felt going in...

The talk is all "KD played bad and we lost by 1 on the buzzer on the road, we good" when it should be "Kyrie went beserk GOD-Rie mode, boston played like trash, and we still lost"

What Boston did to KD can 100% be replicated. maybe he shoots or play a bit better, he is super elite, but I have seen and said it for over a year and Ime saw it up close as a coach here. you hard pressure.double KD and he is going to turn it over a ton. Props to KD, he keeps his head up and doesnt get too frustrated, but Ime will keep doing it, Nash wont adjust and it will be some no so efficient 30 point + 5 turnover games for KD. And we can likely see less then 40 points on 20 shots from kyrie even if he is still great all series.

It was clear we struggled to defend with Kyrie + Seth + brown lineups, we kept running them out. Nash didn't trust the rookie, which is fine except marks cut our only other wing/PF option to make room for him while we had 3 centers get a DNP-CD. Makes sense right? no, no it doesnt.

People are throwing some shade at KD. its not his fault. (not in the view of this game at least, you can blame him for not improving in an obviously flawed area) But your coaches need to put you in positions to succeed. KD has only 1 flaw. he is elite at basically everything else. our coaching puts him in position for defenses to easily attack his flaw. isolation mid-baseline and foul line extended post ups. his back is to the defense. it takes time to get him the ball cause he has to fight for possesion. the defense can watch and time their double teams. he will stuggle to see and react to them.

WHY? why?... like... why? Run him off action. use him as a screener for curry then come off his own screen. that will force off ball switches on be quick hitting making it tougher to double. get him the ball where he can catch and attack.

Also... up by 1, 36 seconds left. WTF DID YOU NOT CALL A TIMEOUT?!?!?

You could have subbed in curry/mills to get spacing so they coudlnt triple team kyrie. you could have... and i know this is a crazy concept DRAWN UP AN EFFING PLAY so that we arent watching KD chuck up some nonsense as the shot clock expires after Kyrie has to try and evade a triple team.

During that timeout we could have also done something like... i dont know... communicate some kind of defensive strategy for the last possession? one that doesnt involve letting tatum cut uncontested to the hoop?

Such a terrible loss. Nets fans deserved this win. Kyrie deserved this win. inexcusable coaching loss. and worst is people see 1 point and bad KD game and shrug it away as bad luck when the reality is that boston played awful... they bricked wide open shot after wide open shot.

Marks and Nash need to go.

Kyrie endured a ton of abuse during that game and played on God Level Super Mode. I felt worse for him than I did about us as fans, Kyrie went to war out there and the folks in charge of the strategic aspects of the game hung him and the rest of the team out to dry.

KD sucked and made a critical error, but it isn't like Nash put him out there in ways to counter.

Why aren't we running off ball action screens to free KD up?

Why aren't we running a 1-4 PNP with Kyrie and KD?

I mean, you can ask a ton of questions and it all boils down to ineptness from Steve Nash and by default, Sean Marks.

I am with you. Nash needs to go, and Marks should be on the hot seat if not fired outright. I would give Marks one more chance, but it starts with HIM admitting his mistake and going to ownership and saying that we need to go in a different direction.

A better coach with this roster would have picked Boston apart.

yeah, i mean its not even second guessing. i mean, how about its a 1 possesion game. youre up. disucss bostons late game tendencies during that timeout. that you scouted. instead of some "rah rah" nonsense.

its just bad coaching. bad.

[Prokorov]

In retrospect and this isn’t a defense of said player but considering the circumstances we might’ve been better off keeping James Johnson because at least he has size to battle with Horford and Theis in the paint, since Trash refuses to play Blake.

most of us said this at the time.

we dont need 5 centers, and if blake wont play, why cut johnson? LMA or blake should have been the cut

[Prokorov]

Finally heard Hahn and Scott podcast from yesterday, luv'd how Bart destroyed Nash for his incompetence..... it made me a little better lol

like imagine if we were a team that the NYC market actually covered and harassed like they do with the Knicks,.... this all of a sudden Nash has no idea what he's doing segments would've been out there since the end of last season and entering into this one.

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who are hahn and scott?

[Prokorov]

No he didn't.

He couldn't make a shot when it mattered. And he lost Tatum on the game winning drive.

You can choose to be all doom and gloom after on **** game if you want.

I won't. Its 1 game in Boston. We just want one of the first two. Cause they won't play like this and win in Brooklyn.

Even if we go down 2-0 we have even odds to win this series.

We have Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving at their apex. There is no reason to lose.

He made the go ahead basket late to give us a two point lead with a minute and change left. I’m not ignoring his faults in that game, but the point remains we had this game in the bag and couldn’t get it done. This is a continued pattern with this team even going as far back as last year.

One good basket in an overall terrible game.

Its literally one game and youre giving up on the Nets. Just stupid.

If we win Game 2 the entire series shifts.

And youre acting like its impossible after we lost on a game winner

i gave up on the nets before the series. game 1 went how i expected. this is boston in 5 unless ben flips it

[Prokorov]

Do you expect Nash to adjust to what Boston is doing? I don't. Udoka has zero reason not to send a wall of defenders at Durant every time he touches the ball.

Yup. This is the spolestra vs. Giannis/J.kidd all over again. Super elite player has 1 flaw, elite coach attacks that flaw, terrible inept coach doesnt adjust, series over

Youre being extremely hyperbolic.

KD being a bad passer out of double teams is not some fatal flaw that can be exploited by other teams consistently.

Hes the best player in the world. He can make adjustments and pass to the other player.

He also will start making a ton of shots freeing up Kyrie. Something we never saw last game.

If you really think Boston can limit KD you are delusional. He is unstoppable.

i think most teams CAN replicate it.

[Jaxon101]

What’s the target day for Ben to come back?

[Prokorov]

What’s the target day for Ben to come back?

Monday for Game 4

[Jaxon101]

What’s the target day for Ben to come back?

Monday for Game 4

Lol

Can’t keep a tough guy like Ben Simmons down