If the Warriors win title #4 but Steph has no FMVP's, how does that affect his legacy?

sca · Post #41 » by **sca** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:56 pm

Myth wrote:How is there not an option for raises his legacy in the poll? The idea that winning a championship hurts his legacy is a dumb take.

Yeah, the whole thread is built on such a stupid premise that I’m surprised only a few people are bothered by it. But since some people seriously believe that losing in the finals is somehow worse than losing in the first round, these people may also believe that winning a championship can have a negative impact a player’s legacy. :lol:

LAL1947 · Post #42 » by **LAL1947** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:00 pm

For the last 15-20 years, we've been told that Shaq winning FMVPs needed to be held against Kobe, even though Kobe was the true FMVP in 2001-02 and he went on to win 2 more FMVPs of his own in 2008-09 and 2009-10, and without building super-teams... by a lot of the same people who are now trying to say that Curry winning 0 of 3 FMVPs, 0 of 4 FMVPs, or 1 of 4 FMVPs should not affect his legacy.

HOGWASH! :lol:

NeoWarriors · Post #43 » by **NeoWarriors** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:12 pm

If Curry doesn't win the FMVP? Straight to jail.

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Myth · Post #44 » by **Myth** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:51 pm

LAL1947 wrote:For the last 15-20 years, we've been told that Shaq winning FMVPs needed to be held against Kobe, even though Kobe was the true FMVP in 2001-02 and he went on to win 2 more FMVPs of his own in 2008-09 and 2009-10, and without building super-teams... by a lot of the same people who are now trying to say that Curry winning 0 of 3 FMVPs, 0 of 4 FMVPs, or 1 of 4 FMVPs should not affect his legacy.

HOGWASH!

1. Who are these people that say Kobe winning three championships was a negative? People say they don’t have as much weight, but I’ve never seen anybody call them anything but a positive on his resume. This idea people propose Kobe would be better with only his 2 championships later in his career is preposterous and I would be very surprised if you found one person in the media or on this site that makes that claim. I’d be more surprised if it is one of the people above.

2. Shaq dominated the 2002 Finals. Kobe was not close to taking that FMVP from him.

1bigfan13 · Post #45 » by **1bigfan13** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:57 pm

It's exhausting how this generation of sports fans & media members get overly wrapped up in trying to define players' legacies.

Steph Curry is a first ballot Hall of Famer who won multiple NBA championships and who's the greatest shooter in NBA history.

Point blank. The end.

That's his legacy and that' all that matters.

phanman · Post #46 » by **phanman** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:38 pm

Honestly in the eyes of educated fans it will no negative impact, but to casuals and loud TV analysts it will always be an easy way to try and prop up one great above Steph.

- He was arguably robbed in 2015 (though Iggy had all the momentum with his play and insertion into the starting unit vs to combat the super human Bron)
- in 2017 & 2018 KD did produce some pretty ridiculous numbers but they were all a by product of the Cavs defense shelling out to neutralize Curry and give KD the ability to feast on single coverage.

When you dig into the actual numbers, Curry was still the most important player for all 3 of their title runs.

xdrta+ · Post #47 » by **xdrta+** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:07 am

NeoWarriors wrote:If Curry doesn't win the FMVP? Straight to jail.

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For the voters.

DaPessimist · Post #48 » by **DaPessimist** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:08 am

Nothing is going to affect Curry's legendary status at this point. He was a scrawny kid out of Davidson who would be lucky to make an All-Star team. Now he's a the greatest shooter of all-time, unanimous MVP, and NBA Champion.

Post #49 » by **floppymoose** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:14 am

To me it only affects the legacy of the FMVP voters. He should already have two: 2014-15 and 2017-18

jym85 · Post #50 » by **jym85** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:28 am

Iggy stealing that one FMVP still makes zero sense.
What a crime

Johnny Tomala · Post #51 » by **Johnny Tomala** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:42 am

floppymoose wrote:To me it only affects the legacy of the FMVP voters. He should already have two: 2014-15 and 2017-18

He shouldn't. He was poor in 2015 NBA Finals and in 2018 he was terrible in Game 3, KD won that game for the Warriors, the only game that was close. It was pathetic how much Curry was stat padding in Game 4 to get this Final MVP.

JayMKE · Post #52 » by **JayMKE** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:01 am

Nobody cares, he’ll be 4x champ and most people agree he should have been FMVP over Iggy

Edrees · Post #53 » by **Edrees** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:29 am

Does CP3's legacy take a hit if Suns win a title but Booker wins FMVP> Like well all think CP3 is a worse player now that he's won a title

rtiff68 · Post #54 » by **rtiff68** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:46 am

Johnny Tomala wrote:
floppymoose wrote:To me it only affects the legacy of the FMVP voters. He should already have two: 2014-15 and 2017-18

He shouldn't. He was poor in 2015 NBA Finals and in 2018 he was terrible in Game 3, KD won that game for the Warriors, the only game that was close. It was pathetic how much Curry was stat padding in Game 4 to get this Final MVP.

lol

Baski · Post #55 » by **Baski** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:17 am

I'm beginning to hate the word "legacy"

JN61 · Post #56 » by **JN61** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:35 am

He will always be looked as a poor finals performer if so. Someone who never managed to play like the best player of the floor in the finals. That level of mental midgetness matters. He is already there but another such year would be pretty rough to him

JN61 · Post #57 » by **JN61** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:37 am

floppymoose wrote:To me it only affects the legacy of the FMVP voters. He should already have two: 2014-15 and 2017-18

Stop it. My sides hurts from all this laughing...

JN61 · Post #58 » by **JN61** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:39 am

Lalouie wrote:it doesn't because that's not his legacy

Poor 4th quarter player in the NBA finals is absolutely huge part of his legacy and one of reasons why he isn't top 25 player.

michaelm · Post #59 » by **michaelm** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:01 am

JN61 wrote:
Lalouie wrote:it doesn't because that's not his legacy

Poor 4th quarter player in the NBA finals is absolutely huge part of his legacy and one of reasons why he isn't top 25 player.

Straws, clutching at.

He will gladly take a 4th or more title with no FMVP award as will any GSW fan or anyone associated with the GSW organisation.

Impuniti · Post #60 » by **Impuniti** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:33 am

JN61 wrote:
Lalouie wrote:it doesn't because that's not his legacy

Poor 4th quarter player in the NBA finals is absolutely huge part of his legacy and one of reasons why he isn't top 25 player.

He's statistically had one of the greatest 4th quarters ever in NBA history in 2015, but you being both salty and wrong about him as usual is about what's expected.

If the Warriors win 4 titles but Steph has no FMVP's, how is his legacy affected?