Gary Harris

[Manocad]

Gary Harris is another "make a move now for the sake of making a move now" player. So the team doesn't get Brunson or Sexton; make a move next year.

[DBC10]

I’d view him as another in a line of unenthusiastic veteran guard pickups. He’d find company among Delon Wright, Wayne Ellington, Cory Joseph, Rodney McGruder, Tony Snell, and others I’ve likely missed.

To be clear, he’s not as bad as all of those guys, but he’s not really moving the needle for us.

I wouldn’t be upset, wouldn’t be thrilled. Like most of those other adds.

Don't forget Jodie Meeks and Bullock. They clearly don't move the needle much at all

If this was asked 3 years ago, and depending on his health (since he's so unreliable there) I'd have said yes. Now, it's just a meh

There's not a great amount of potential plays to make to nab a guard but Harris at this point is fairly low on the totem pole

[Snakebites]

I’d view him as another in a line of unenthusiastic veteran guard pickups. He’d find company among Delon Wright, Wayne Ellington, Cory Joseph, Rodney McGruder, Tony Snell, and others I’ve likely missed.

To be clear, he’s not as bad as all of those guys, but he’s not really moving the needle for us.

I wouldn’t be upset, wouldn’t be thrilled. Like most of those other adds.

Don't forget Jodie Meeks and Bullock. They clearly don't move the needle much at all

If this was asked 3 years ago, and depending on his health (since he's so unreliable there) I'd have said yes. Now, it's just a meh

There's not a great amount of potential plays to make to nab a guard but Harris at this point is fairly low on the totem pole

Ooh, forgot Meeks, mostly because he barely played. I left Bullock off because he wasn’t a veteran when we added him.

[buzzkilloton]

Harris is also known as a leader, tough defender, good teammate, and hard worker. So you sign him on the cheap for a season to stop gap and he fulfills your vet leader role as well. Its completely fine. Obv its not exciting nor moving the needle but its a move you can make and keep all future flexibility. Cant love it cant hate it but these plays alot of teams make from time to time.

[Jingles2]

Not my first ten choices at possible free agent guards. I'd rather go after someone like Divincenzo and some of the others mentioned. I'm looking for someone 25 or under.

[Manocad]

I’d view him as another in a line of unenthusiastic veteran guard pickups. He’d find company among Delon Wright, Wayne Ellington, Cory Joseph, Rodney McGruder, Tony Snell, and others I’ve likely missed.

To be clear, he’s not as bad as all of those guys, but he’s not really moving the needle for us.

I wouldn’t be upset, wouldn’t be thrilled. Like most of those other adds.

Exactly. I look at Harris as a move you make because you need to, i.e. he's replacing someone miserable or who got hurt and you need that warm body to remain competitive. He's not a player you pick up when you don't have a need. And right now there definitely is no need for Gary Harris because he's NOT a big improvement.

[bstein14]

I’d view him as another in a line of unenthusiastic veteran guard pickups. He’d find company among Delon Wright, Wayne Ellington, Cory Joseph, Rodney McGruder, Tony Snell, and others I’ve likely missed.

To be clear, he’s not as bad as all of those guys, but he’s not really moving the needle for us.

I wouldn’t be upset, wouldn’t be thrilled. Like most of those other adds.

Exactly. I look at Harris as a move you make because you need to, i.e. he's replacing someone miserable or who got hurt and you need that warm body to remain competitive. He's not a player you pick up when you don't have a need. And right now there definitely is no need for Gary Harris because he's NOT a big improvement.

He's a big improvement over Hayes... but you might be right if CoJo opts to stay and we keep Frank it's likely not a need if we're fine putting all the same guards out there again next year. From the sounds of it, Weaver doesn't want to do that he reportedly has interest in adding another guard to the lineup.

[buzzkilloton]

I’d view him as another in a line of unenthusiastic veteran guard pickups. He’d find company among Delon Wright, Wayne Ellington, Cory Joseph, Rodney McGruder, Tony Snell, and others I’ve likely missed.

To be clear, he’s not as bad as all of those guys, but he’s not really moving the needle for us.

I wouldn’t be upset, wouldn’t be thrilled. Like most of those other adds.

Exactly. I look at Harris as a move you make because you need to, i.e. he's replacing someone miserable or who got hurt and you need that warm body to remain competitive. He's not a player you pick up when you don't have a need. And right now there definitely is no need for Gary Harris because he's NOT a big improvement.

Killian and Cojo are miserable. Harris is a improvement on them both.

Edwards who talks to all the pistons people from the athletic a few days ago.

"Now to your question. The biggest gap that needs to be filled, in my opinion, is the guard spot next to Cunningham. Cory Joseph does provide value, but he’s not a starter. Former Michigan State Spartan Gary Harris, who is an unrestricted free agent, might be a decent option if things don’t go to plan. Maybe you can entice the 27-year-old into a prove-it deal for a season with a club option on the second year. Injuries and inconsistent shooting have plagued his career, but Harris is a good NBA guard when all is going well and fits the profile for the type of players the Pistons like (tough and good defensively).

Harris as a Plan B or C wouldn’t be the end of the world if Detroit is dead set on trying to be a Play-In team a year from now."

[buzzkilloton]

Not my first ten choices at possible free agent guards. I'd rather go after someone like Divincenzo and some of the others mentioned. I'm looking for someone 25 or under.

Everyone would rather have him. Hes restricted so the Kings can match any fair offer and will get paid more.

Heres the options taking top guys that fit from hoops hype that are available guys like Lavine arent coming-

1.Brunson-gonna be high demand
2.Simons restricted blazers match
3.Sexton restricted but Cavs likely let him walk
4.Monk
5.Oladipo
6.Mills-has a player option will want to play for a contender and will get paid off a huge year
7.Beverly
8.DD restricted
9.Harris
10.Forbes

edit- some guys after harris listed in ranks-
l.walker-restricted
delon wright
k.nunn
a.rivers
B.Brown(i know some would love this)



This is a bad list of free agent guards. Unless we draft one with the lotto pick its overpay someone due to class sucking or try to stop gap it until better is there. Personally I'm not excited about anyone so making it through with a small improvement sounds like a good option if draft or trade isnt on the table.

If you like signing Sexton/Monk/Oladipo to a multi year contract and commiting you might have diff thoughts on stop gapping.

[Manocad]

I’d view him as another in a line of unenthusiastic veteran guard pickups. He’d find company among Delon Wright, Wayne Ellington, Cory Joseph, Rodney McGruder, Tony Snell, and others I’ve likely missed.

To be clear, he’s not as bad as all of those guys, but he’s not really moving the needle for us.

I wouldn’t be upset, wouldn’t be thrilled. Like most of those other adds.

Exactly. I look at Harris as a move you make because you need to, i.e. he's replacing someone miserable or who got hurt and you need that warm body to remain competitive. He's not a player you pick up when you don't have a need. And right now there definitely is no need for Gary Harris because he's NOT a big improvement.

Killian and Cojo are miserable. Harris is a improvement on them both.

Edwards who talks to all the pistons people from the athletic a few days ago.

"Now to your question. The biggest gap that needs to be filled, in my opinion, is the guard spot next to Cunningham. Cory Joseph does provide value, but he’s not a starter. Former Michigan State Spartan Gary Harris, who is an unrestricted free agent, might be a decent option if things don’t go to plan. Maybe you can entice the 27-year-old into a prove-it deal for a season with a club option on the second year. Injuries and inconsistent shooting have plagued his career, but Harris is a good NBA guard when all is going well and fits the profile for the type of players the Pistons like (tough and good defensively).

Harris as a Plan B or C wouldn’t be the end of the world if Detroit is dead set on trying to be a Play-In team a year from now."

If it was hypothetically a year from now and that was the last spot that needed improvement, sure. But right now I just don’t see the point unless you really believe Harris will be the best option not only this year but next year too.

[buzzkilloton]

Harris as a Plan B or C wouldn’t be the end of the world if Detroit is dead set on trying to be a Play-In team a year from now."

If it was hypothetically a year from now and that was the last spot that needed improvement, sure. But right now I just don’t see the point unless you really believe Harris will be the best option not only this year but next year too.

You can take a look at the post above where i take the hoopshype rankings and see the options if we dont draft a guard. Its slim. Personally i would prefer taking a 1 year cheap guy seeing what happens. I dont see the long term solution there unless Brunson is coming here or we draft it. I just dont want to lock in a multi year deal of Sexton,Monk,or hell im not thrilled about paying Brunson a massive contract right now either.

As far as guys outside of Harris maybe Delon Wright would be another cheap prove it guy that we could grab as upgrade. I think Harris provides better d and leadership. Its just a bad free agent class thats why were seeing threads about Gary Harris and B.Brown.

[Manocad]

If it was hypothetically a year from now and that was the last spot that needed improvement, sure. But right now I just don’t see the point unless you really believe Harris will be the best option not only this year but next year too.

You can take a look at the post above where i take the hoopshype rankings and see the options if we dont draft a guard. Its slim. Personally i would prefer taking a 1 year cheap guy seeing what happens. I dont see the long term solution there unless Brunson is coming here or we draft it. I just dont want to lock in a multi year deal of Sexton,Monk,or hell im not thrilled about paying Brunson a massive contract right now either.

As far as guys outside of Harris maybe Delon Wright would be another cheap prove it guy that we could grab as upgrade. I think Harris provides better d and leadership. Its just a bad free agent class thats why were seeing threads about Gary Harris and B.Brown.

I don’t think every position of need HAS to be addressed in this offseason; that’s my point.