Jalen Brunson obsession

[HarthorneWingo]

Welp, expect that bandwagon to get heavy.

It went from, "He's not a starter" to " Im maybe coming around to the idea of..."

This is after dropping 31 and 41 points sans Luka versus Gobert and the pips.. I understand the concept of pride but....

BTW I doubt we get him now because the price tag has grown exponentially. So I guess I could settle for Tyus Jones to co pilot with Quickley if we could somehow swing that.

I’m fine with Tyus in that situation. And I think IQ can be just as good, if not better than, Brunson. At least IQ was drafted in the first round and he was the SEC POTY. The grass is always greener around here lol.

[BBALLER4FR]

Welp, expect that bandwagon to get heavy.

It went from, "He's not a starter" to " Im maybe coming around to the idea of..."

This is after dropping 31 and 41 points sans Luka versus Gobert and the pips.. I understand the concept of pride but....

BTW I doubt we get him now because the price tag has grown exponentially. So I guess I could settle for Tyus Jones to co pilot with Quickley if we could somehow swing that.

I’m fine with Tyus in that situation. And I think IQ can be just as good, if not better than, Brunson. At least IQ was drafted in the first round and he was the SEC POTY. The grass is always greener around here lol.

I can get on board with Brunson based on what I'm seeing and that management is unwilling to grow from within. But the rear view mirror takes are really weird from some of our posters. I guess it's not ok to say "Brunson was just a backup and NOT a PG" but perfectly fine to say "IQ is just a back up and NOT a PG". And now it's the cool thing to say "Brunson should have always been starting but he had the misfortune of being cast as a backup player" but you can never say the same for IQ. It really is a case of their stuff is better than ours.

[Oscirus]

dallas aint getting rid of brunson anytime soon lolz

[spree2kawhi]

My evaluation of Brunson was **** apparently

But I still think we need to find the face of the franchise before filling out the roster with role players, and he is still a role player after all.

[NYKnickerbocker]

Damn he didn’t make a single 3 lol. 3 time DPOY Rudy out there and he was just getting buckets in the paint lmao

[thebuzzardman]

Knick fans: This team sucks
Knick fans when any attempt to upgrade the team is brought up: That guy isn't good enough for the Knicks.

every.single.time.

Yes, this pretty much sums up our Knicks fans. No player is ever good enough to go after, and the 'youth' we have is always significantly overrated. It's boring and tiresome.

If we want to get better, we need better players. Our current roster is not built to win a damn thing. I honestly don't get it, but this happens year after year. Posters propose good/great players to add, but then when they realize we have to give up something to get something, the posts then move to a lot of quotes like: 'X player is not that good, X player is too old, X player doesn't fit our roster, I won't give up RJ/Obi/Quick etc. for X player.

It's too much. Bla bla bla. Same sh*t year after year. Doesn't anyone want to actually field a consistently winning team? If we don't make some significant upgrades in the offseason (i.e: Trade some of our youth for a good/great player, or multiple good/great players), we're locked into 25-35 win squads for the foreseeable future.

It's always the mixed bag of extremes. The young players suck or are great! Yet somehow, other players aren't good enough.

I don't care how the FO does it. I could care less who they trade anymore. Yeah, I don't want to see a "good" team of 7 35 year olds that sucks after 2 seasons and the team is capped out for 3 after, but besides that, don't really care which youth stay, which go, which vets might acquired, or not, who is drafted. Just, like, try to make the team good and semi sustainable (which for the Knicks is 3 years) for once.

[thebuzzardman]

Another classic Grant Hill case where knicks are used to drive up the price. I'm ok with that just to make Dallas pay more. That's all we got. We should hang jerseys for all the times we were Grant Hill'd

Chris Webber's jersey retired first

[Kampuchea]

Let's bring in Brunson and bring back Mitch plus re-sign RJ to the max.

Brunson - $30mil
RJ - $35mil
Fournier - $18mil
Randle - $29mil
Mitch - $18mil

That is $130Mil, the salary CAP is $122mil next season. We should be able to go over the cap to fill out the roster.

FORMIDABLE

[8516knicks]

Let's bring in Brunson and bring back Mitch plus re-sign RJ to the max.

Brunson - $30mil
RJ - $35mil
Fournier - $18mil
Randle - $29mil
Mitch - $18mil

That is $130Mil, the salary CAP is $122mil next season. We should be able to go over the cap to fill out the roster.

FORMIDABLE

That $18M for Fournier sticks out like a sore thumb. (Maybe a sore thumb is why he only shows up every few games?)

[Kampuchea]

Let's bring in Brunson and bring back Mitch plus re-sign RJ to the max.

Brunson - $30mil
RJ - $35mil
Fournier - $18mil
Randle - $29mil
Mitch - $18mil

That is $130Mil, the salary CAP is $122mil next season. We should be able to go over the cap to fill out the roster.

FORMIDABLE

That $18M for Fournier sticks out like a sore thumb. (Maybe a sore thumb is why he only shows up every few games?)

Yeah, I don't like that $18million. It seems weird as the only one not overpaid. We should bump him to $23M+

[Chanel Bomber]

Let's bring in Brunson and bring back Mitch plus re-sign RJ to the max.

Brunson - $30mil
RJ - $35mil
Fournier - $18mil
Randle - $29mil
Mitch - $18mil

That is $130Mil, the salary CAP is $122mil next season. We should be able to go over the cap to fill out the roster.

FORMIDABLE

That $18M for Fournier sticks out like a sore thumb. (Maybe a sore thumb is why he only shows up every few games?)

Yeah, I don't like that $18million. It seems weird as the only one not overpaid. We should bump him to $23M+

I agree. Seems reasonable.

MJ Burks deserves his money too so I say we renegociate his contract and give him approximately the same amount as RJ and Randle over 4 years. Just to reward the high bar he's setting for his teammates in terms of TS.

[RHODEY]

It went from, "He's not a starter" to " Im maybe coming around to the idea of..."

This is after dropping 31 and 41 points sans Luka versus Gobert and the pips.. I understand the concept of pride but....

BTW I doubt we get him now because the price tag has grown exponentially. So I guess I could settle for Tyus Jones to co pilot with Quickley if we could somehow swing that.

I’m fine with Tyus in that situation. And I think IQ can be just as good, if not better than, Brunson. At least IQ was drafted in the first round and he was the SEC POTY. The grass is always greener around here lol.

I can get on board with Brunson based on what I'm seeing and that management is unwilling to grow from within. But the rear view mirror takes are really weird from some of our posters. I guess it's not ok to say "Brunson was just a backup and NOT a PG" but perfectly fine to say "IQ is just a back up and NOT a PG". And now it's the cool thing to say "Brunson should have always been starting but he had the misfortune of being cast as a backup player" but you can never say the same for IQ. It really is a case of their stuff is better than ours.

I dont think it has to be one or the other I think Brunson AND IQ would fit the bill. I'm in that camp. Also some of us touted Brunson well before this playoff mini run.

[thebuzzardman]

Buzztrodamus time.

Brunson 100% will be a Knick.

Randle was at the game with Perry and Co to recruit him, though he's already back channel indicated he wants to come
Randle included to make Randle feel important.

Feel free to construct trades that work with Mitch, Fournier, Burks, Walker, Bertrans, etc etc.

It's happening

[sol537]

I always liked Brunson even from his college days. I wanted him for us in that draft as a 7th man off the bench type because he's a clear winning player. I'm hoping his dad can convince him to angle his way to NYK. Though I'd imagine he'll stay in DAL just because they gave him the opportunity to blossom.

Still, I'd shed MRob or Randle for Brunson without thinking twice. Brunson + IQ/Grimes + RJ + Obi is the start of something pretty nice.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

My evaluation of Brunson was **** apparently

But I still think we need to find the face of the franchise before filling out the roster with role players, and he is still a role player after all.

He's not "just a roleplayer" there's a 20ppg scorer with the amount of touches he'd get here, he's not a franchise tier 1 type of player but he's also not simply a roleplayer, roleplayers don't lead their teams to playoff wins when the main guy is out. He's a highly efficient scoring PG that could make a couple all-star games in the right situation.

[seren]

Brunson’s trajectory is similar to Van Vleet so far. Fred signed a 4/85 two years ago. Given the increase in salary cap since then, I would think something around 4/100 is what it will take at the least. Dallas can give him a fifth year as well. Maybe 5/130. Depending on what is out there, he may even get closer to max from a team under the cap. Detroit perhaps

[sol537]

4yrs $84 seems about right. Let's see what he does the rest of the playoffs. Utah sure is making him look good with their horrible defenders.

[Reign23]

if we can't get him I would definitely look to offer Tyus Jones the MLE. he looks awesome tbh

[HarthorneWingo]

My evaluation of Brunson was **** apparently

But I still think we need to find the face of the franchise before filling out the roster with role players, and he is still a role player after all.

He's not "just a roleplayer" there's a 20ppg scorer with the amount of touches he'd get here, he's not a franchise tier 1 type of player but he's also not simply a roleplayer, roleplayers don't lead their teams to playoff wins when the main guy is out. He's a highly efficient scoring PG that could make a couple all-star games in the right situation.

He’s the lefty FVV

[NoDopeOnSundays]

My evaluation of Brunson was **** apparently

But I still think we need to find the face of the franchise before filling out the roster with role players, and he is still a role player after all.

He's not "just a roleplayer" there's a 20ppg scorer with the amount of touches he'd get here, he's not a franchise tier 1 type of player but he's also not simply a roleplayer, roleplayers don't lead their teams to playoff wins when the main guy is out. He's a highly efficient scoring PG that could make a couple all-star games in the right situation.

He’s the lefty FVV

He has more potential than Fred, cause he scores at the rim and mid-range, he's better at self creation.