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Was watching some highlights and Damone Clark from LSU looks like a greenbay kinda guy. Saw he's probably out for the season anyone know where he's usually mocked?
            
                                    
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TroyD92 wrote:Was watching some highlights and Damone Clark from LSU looks like a greenbay kinda guy. Saw he's probably out for the season anyone know where he's usually mocked?
From PFF, ADP 113
Clark would be 50 spots higher on this big board were it not for a spinal fusion surgery that will keep him sidelined in his rookie season. He ticks the size and athleticism boxes wholesale, with only a 7.1% missed tackle rate over his college career
FIFTH-ROUND PICK
He'd be a day 2 pick if fully healthy, but his spinal surgery puts his career in jeopardy..
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I would probably move up max 4 spots to land one of the top 4 WR.  I feel they have to get a guy that has a chance at being a legit #1 WR in this draft (even if it's Jameson Williams for later in the year), and I think only four guys qualify as that.  Wouldn't be thrilled with any of Watson, Dotson, Burks at 22/28, although of those three I'm going Watson first.  
Honestly, didn't want to trade down, but if they can't get one of the top 4 WR, it might be the best option.
            
                                    
                                    
                        Honestly, didn't want to trade down, but if they can't get one of the top 4 WR, it might be the best option.
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I don't really get the Watson love. Like, if you want to take a tall, raw athletic pass catcher then just take Woods in the 2nd. At least Woods can block.
            
                                    
                                    
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LUKE23 wrote:I would probably move up max 4 spots to land one of the top 4 WR. I feel they have to get a guy that has a chance at being a legit #1 WR in this draft (even if it's Jameson Williams for later in the year), and I think only four guys qualify as that. Wouldn't be thrilled with any of Watson, Dotson, Burks at 22/28, although of those three I'm going Watson first.
Honestly, didn't want to trade down, but if they can't get one of the top 4 WR, it might be the best option.
Heard alot of really positive things about burks n that wr from georgia
for burks i heard hes a great blocker and has been compared to deebo samuel amoung others n pickens has been mentioned as a julio jones potential as hes tall can run good hands
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ReasonablySober wrote:I don't really get the Watson love. Like, if you want to take a tall, raw athletic pass catcher then just take Woods in the 2nd. At least Woods can block.
Because if he hits - he will have traits few of the other receivers have. Number one being a true 6'-4" 4.36 X you can line up anywhere. Unlike most of those guys that will have to live outside the numbers. One could say the same thing about those guys. If all you want is a guy that runs a 9 route all day - draft Danny Gray in the 6th.
From a recent podcast: Don't forget Watson's 4.36 at 6'-4" is much more impressive than that of someone 5'-11". Think of it the same way as a guy with 34" arms matching bench press numbers with a guy that has 30" arms.
His win rate at the Senior Bowl was off the charts. That bodes well.
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Alec Pierce > Watson in terms of tall, speedy WR's, for me. Not that anybody asked.
Also I think I'm out on Wyatt officially. Age was one concern I had, but I didn't realize he's got some red flags off the field.
            
                                    
                                    Also I think I'm out on Wyatt officially. Age was one concern I had, but I didn't realize he's got some red flags off the field.
Multiple NFL teams told WalterFootball.com since that they have dropped Wyatt off their boards because of repeated incidents of domestic violence.
In February of 2020, Wyatt was arrested for a "family violence" incident. Team sources say that their private investigators found out about three additional domestic violence incidents. With that in his background, sources from multiple teams say Wyatt is off their draft board.
Surprisingly, Wyatt was not suspended or kicked off the team at Georgia by head coach Kirby Smart despite the incidents.
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Matches Malone wrote:Alec Pierce > Watson in terms of tall, speedy WR's, for me. Not that anybody asked.
Also a good 2nd round prospect, but I think it's weird how big and fast he is yet he hasn't done a lot after the catch. He's not getting enough separation maybe?
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LikeABosh wrote:Matches Malone wrote:Alec Pierce > Watson in terms of tall, speedy WR's, for me. Not that anybody asked.
Also a good 2nd round prospect, but I think it's weird how big and fast he is yet he hasn't done a lot after the catch. He's not getting enough separation maybe?
Think it was a bit to do with how he was used at Cincy. He didn't get a lot of opportunities to create additional YAC. I just think he's exceptionally skilled at catching the ball at it's peak, soft hands and tracks the deep ball well. Watson while fast and tall, has dropped some passes and doesn't track the deep ball as well. Things he could easily overcome, just something to think about when considering taking him in the 1st/2nd.
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LikeABosh wrote:DrWood wrote:ReasonablySober wrote:Yea, Watson might be great but unless he's there with our 4th pick I'm not risking it.
I'd definitely take him at #53 or later, depending I what I picked earlier.
As long as he's not the first receiver we take, I'd be fine with him at #53. I'm all for looking for a home run with so many extra picks
I'd be fine with him as the first receiver, if we picked a couple more later. Tolbert, Pierce, Metchie, and several others.
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LUKE23 wrote:I would probably move up max 4 spots to land one of the top 4 WR. I feel they have to get a guy that has a chance at being a legit #1 WR in this draft (even if it's Jameson Williams for later in the year), and I think only four guys qualify as that. Wouldn't be thrilled with any of Watson, Dotson, Burks at 22/28, although of those three I'm going Watson first.
Honestly, didn't want to trade down, but if they can't get one of the top 4 WR, it might be the best option.
There are a dozen guys who have a legit chance to be a legit #1. Moving up doesn't assure you of getting one that actually becomes one. I'd much rather take three of them in rounds 2-3 than take one in round 1 and none other.
Trade down, trade down, trade down.
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Matches Malone wrote:Alec Pierce > Watson in terms of tall, speedy WR's, for me. Not that anybody asked.
Why not both? In many of my mocks I take both of them and another WR too (Tolbert, Metchie, Shakir, Doubs, etc.)
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Today's Mock Draft
#38 Travis Jones DT CONN
#49 Christian Watson WR, NDS
#53 Trey McBride TE, Col. St.
#61 Jaquan Brisker S, PSU
#62 Jalen Tolbert WR, S. Ala.
#64 Kingsley Enagbare EDGE S. Car.
#67 Troy Anderson LB Mont. St.
#69 Alec Pierce WR, CIN
#81 Marcus Jones CB, HOUS
#93 Kellen Diesch T, AZ St.
#96 Jalyn Armour-Davis CB, ALA
#112 Nicholas Petit-Frere T, Mich.
#173 Lecitus Smith, G, VA Tech
I don't think I've ever taken Brisker before, but the safety I usually target was taken, and Brisker represented a ton of value at that pick.
I got 3 WR who have a chance to become a #1 WR, and the top TE in the draft. And the best returner in the draft, Marcus Jones.
And I love Petit-Frere's name: it means "little brother." My last pick has a chance to be a day 1 starter.
            
                                    
                                    
                        #38 Travis Jones DT CONN
#49 Christian Watson WR, NDS
#53 Trey McBride TE, Col. St.
#61 Jaquan Brisker S, PSU
#62 Jalen Tolbert WR, S. Ala.
#64 Kingsley Enagbare EDGE S. Car.
#67 Troy Anderson LB Mont. St.
#69 Alec Pierce WR, CIN
#81 Marcus Jones CB, HOUS
#93 Kellen Diesch T, AZ St.
#96 Jalyn Armour-Davis CB, ALA
#112 Nicholas Petit-Frere T, Mich.
#173 Lecitus Smith, G, VA Tech
I don't think I've ever taken Brisker before, but the safety I usually target was taken, and Brisker represented a ton of value at that pick.
I got 3 WR who have a chance to become a #1 WR, and the top TE in the draft. And the best returner in the draft, Marcus Jones.
And I love Petit-Frere's name: it means "little brother." My last pick has a chance to be a day 1 starter.
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ReasonablySober wrote:I don't really get the Watson love. Like, if you want to take a tall, raw athletic pass catcher then just take Woods in the 2nd. At least Woods can block.
Really? Take a purely developmental TE in the 2nd round?
The question about Watson is what he might do against better competition.
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ReasonablySober wrote:I don't really get the Watson love. Like, if you want to take a tall, raw athletic pass catcher then just take Woods in the 2nd. At least Woods can block.
He’s tough to gauge. Mostly because of the competition level. I will say I don’t think he’s just a tall fast stiff. He had great maneuvering particularly for a guy his size. He was used on jet sweeps and he can take one cut and explode into the second level of the defense.
But on the subject of tall and fast, that speed isn’t just with a stop watch. He ran away from everyone once he got the ball in his hands.
He’s on my list of guys I’d totally be cool with as far as receivers in the first round along with Olave, Burks and Pickens. Truthfully though I think they can wait or trade down if they want a receiver. As someone previously mentioned, a guy like Pierce, Dotson, or Shakur would be great bets in the second round. I love this receiver depth even more than the ‘20 draft.
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This is from a dynasty perspective, which I play but I felt it was a good read on the WR’s in general 
https://www.fantasypoints.com/nfl/articles/season/2022/barretts-rookie-model-wide-receivers
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Today's Mock. I reached with my first pick (by 10 picks or more) because I wanted one of the top DT, and he was the last one left. I had tried to trade down, but there were no takers, so I had to take someone. The rest of the draft fell nicely.
#38 Logan Hall, DT HOUS
#50 Christian Watson, WR NDS
#52 Trey McBride, TE Col.St.
#59 Abraham Lucas, T, Wash.St.
#62 Nick Cross, S, Maryl.
#65 Kingsley Enagbare, EDGE, SC
#70 Jalen Tolbert, WR S.Ala.
#72 Alec Pierce, WR CIN
#73 Marcus Jones, CB HOUS
#97 Brandon Smith, LB PSU
#109 Kellen Diesch, T, ASU
            
                                    
                                    
                        #38 Logan Hall, DT HOUS
#50 Christian Watson, WR NDS
#52 Trey McBride, TE Col.St.
#59 Abraham Lucas, T, Wash.St.
#62 Nick Cross, S, Maryl.
#65 Kingsley Enagbare, EDGE, SC
#70 Jalen Tolbert, WR S.Ala.
#72 Alec Pierce, WR CIN
#73 Marcus Jones, CB HOUS
#97 Brandon Smith, LB PSU
#109 Kellen Diesch, T, ASU
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LittleRooster wrote:This is from a dynasty perspective, which I play but I felt it was a good read on the WR’s in general
https://www.fantasypoints.com/nfl/articles/season/2022/barretts-rookie-model-wide-receivers
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pretty good analysis, imo. It took me to the end before I realized when he was talking about rounds, he was talking about rounds in a fantasy draft, not the NFL Draft. I was wondering...round 16?
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