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Heat vs Hawks -- Part Three: The Rise of Skywalker

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Re: Heat vs Hawks -- Part Three: The Rise of Skywalker 

Post#21 » by dms269 » Sat Apr 23, 2022 1:54 am

I disagree about the talent. We have a bunch of 4-7 guys on a roster and lack a true 2nd or 3rd option.

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Post#22 » by HMFFL » Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:01 am

threethehardway wrote:
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threethehardway wrote:Nate is a bottom 5 coach.
Coach doesn't have the talent he needs

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He has all the talent he needs to have a Top 5 team in the East. He has a transcendent offensive engine that carried him to the number two offense in the league.

The offense is BS. It's a lot of standing around and watching one player dribble. It's a lot of isolation with subpar iso players.

It looks a lot like Mark Jackson Warriors.

If pick and roll fails, ISO. If ISO fails, take a hard contested shot.

The Heat didn't have a top 10 offense but they have a system where they can plug and play players. They take efficient shots.

The Hawks should be better.
We have talent that's nothing more than what you're seeing. Higher end role players in the league and one star talent that's on his way to becoming a superstar. We need some grown ass men on the team that aren't going to get pushed around.

Trust me, Nate doesn't have my full support, but we're missing a lot of pieces that are needed to excel. Travis needs to get creative and package some of the guys we have for more suitable talent that's going to lead us to success.



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Post#23 » by DirtybirdGA » Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:02 am

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Post#24 » by HMFFL » Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:15 am

Impressive turnaround

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Re: Heat vs Hawks -- Part Three: The Rise of Skywalker 

Post#26 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Apr 23, 2022 3:15 am

Bogdan needs to be starting and needs to play 40+ minutes in Game 4.


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Post#27 » by HMFFL » Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:58 am

Jamaaliver wrote:Bogdan needs to be starting and needs to play 40+ minutes in Game 4.


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Indeed! Just because Kevin and Trae had success starting together in the regular season doesn't mean it needs to happen now.

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Post#28 » by HMFFL » Sat Apr 23, 2022 10:00 am

Fast Break Points:
Miami 10
Hawks 9

Points in the Paint:
Miami 46
Hawks 48

Biggest Lead:
Miami 16
Hawks 11

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Post#29 » by HMFFL » Sat Apr 23, 2022 1:32 pm

Kyle Lowry out for Game 4?

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Miami Heat’s Kyle Lowry leaves with hamstring injury; Game 4 status in air Miami Heat point guard Kyle Lowry suffered a left hamstring injury in the third quarter of the Hawks’ 111-110 Game 3 victory on Friday night. He could only watch from the bench as Atlanta, the Eastern Conference’s No. 8 seed, erased a double-digit deficit to draw within 2-1 of the No. 1-seeded Heat in the best-of-seven first-round playoff series. “I’m pissed the f— off,” Lowry told ESPN as he walked out of State Farm Arena after the game with a noticeable limp.

 

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Post#30 » by D21 » Sat Apr 23, 2022 3:07 pm

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Jamaaliver wrote:Bogdan needs to be starting and needs to play 40+ minutes in Game 4.


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Indeed! Just because Kevin and Trae had success starting together in the regular season doesn't mean it needs to happen now.


I would tend to agree with you guys, but at the same time, I'm afraid of some things if he starts:
- if they can't build a big enough lead, our bench may suffer to kee it more than now
- Bogi is very smart and being on the bench at the start of the game, I'm pretty sure he's not only waiting to enter, but he's certainly analysing the opponents
- he would also play in 4th quarter, but he would not be as fresh as he's when coming from the bench

Now, after watching one more game of this series, added to his contract, no way I would tranfer him.
He's simply one of the best bargain of this league, and he's really, really, a true winner. You see easily he doesn't care of anything else but winning

Regarding the game, they just have to play like this and reducing TO and avoiding this kind of 0-21 run, and they can win the next game.
Very happy that there were so many "if Clint was playing, it would different" moments, but that they managed to react and fight enough to win this one.

And another surprise, Delon is better game after game : +23 Plus/Minus yesterday, followed by Onyeka at +19 (this offensive rebound at the end!), and Bogi at +16

If Clint was here, Gallo would be joining the bench guys, and maybe perform better. I got the feeling that he defend better when coming from the bench than starting
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Post#31 » by atlantabbq99 » Sat Apr 23, 2022 3:53 pm

There is no way the Hawks beat the Heat without Cap. Cap is more important than Collins and Hunter. Just like how Miami can't win without Bam, Hawks can't win without Cap.

With that said, its good to see Trae ad the Hawks pull one out for the home crowd. I hope the best for Cap and also hope that Kong can step it up.

After how bad the Hawks look without Cap, the Hawks should take a long look at Mitchell Robinson
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Post#32 » by HMFFL » Sat Apr 23, 2022 4:19 pm

atlantabbq99 wrote:There is no way the Hawks beat the Heat without Cap. Cap is more important than Collins and Hunter. Just like how Miami can't win without Bam, Hawks can't win without Cap.

With that said, its good to see Trae ad the Hawks pull one out for the home crowd. I hope the best for Cap and also hope that Kong can step it up.

After how bad the Hawks look without Cap, the Hawks should take a long look at Mitchell Robinson
Do you believe we can play Cap and Mitchell Robinson together on the court at the sametime at times?

If not, I don't believe we need to invest in Mitchell Robinson, but I would like for us to utilize Cap more within our offense.

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Post#33 » by atlantabbq99 » Sat Apr 23, 2022 4:35 pm

HMFFL wrote:
atlantabbq99 wrote:There is no way the Hawks beat the Heat without Cap. Cap is more important than Collins and Hunter. Just like how Miami can't win without Bam, Hawks can't win without Cap.

With that said, its good to see Trae ad the Hawks pull one out for the home crowd. I hope the best for Cap and also hope that Kong can step it up.

After how bad the Hawks look without Cap, the Hawks should take a long look at Mitchell Robinson
Do you believe we can play Cap and Mitchell Robinson together on the court at the sametime at times?

If not, I don't believe we need to invest in Mitchell Robinson, but I would like for us to utilize Cap more within our offense.

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Cap has had injury problems for his whole career. It is very rare for him to even dress for +70 games in a year.

The more i watch Trae, the more i come to believe he needs a elite defensive big more than an elite scoring forward or SG.

I was hoping Kong could fill that role but his development has been very slow and his injury issues are just as bad as Cap.

GSW had it right when they got an elite defender in Green or 7 footers like McGee and Bogut.
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Re: Heat vs Hawks -- Part Three: The Rise of Skywalker 

Post#34 » by D21 » Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:41 pm

Thinking it twice, Trae struggle on this series might be partly due to not having a lot of option to send alley-oops than he's used to:
he usually has Clint, John and Onyeka, but since the CLE game, John came back but he's still injured, and Trae can't play with him like when he's healthy. He only has Onyeka really healthy, and he's not used to play with him like with Clint and John.
If I'm not wrong, Onyeka played with Trae this season, but more with Bogi or Delon, without Trae on the floor.

Also noted that ATL was trailing by 14pts with 9min to play when they benched Hunter and went Trae-Delon-Bogi-Kevin-Onyeka lineup, and this with this lineup they won the game (they just flipped Trae for Hunter on two plays, one on which MIA scored a 3pts, and the last one the defend which he's does well, but except this last one, Hunter was not good in the 4th quarter)

Maybe having 3 guys able to play PG, 4 who can shoot 3s and an athletic C is the most difficult lineup to defend on for MIA
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Re: Heat vs Hawks -- Part Three: The Rise of Skywalker 

Post#35 » by Jamaaliver » Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:53 pm

This is an incredible video breakdown of Miami's defensive scheme in Game Three and what we need to do to exploit it:

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Re: Heat vs Hawks -- Part Three: The Rise of Skywalker 

Post#36 » by jayu70 » Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:43 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:This is an incredible video breakdown of Miami's defensive scheme in Game Three and what we need to do to exploit it:


We exploit it by hitting those OPEN shots....we've missed too many.

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