Michael Jordan vs Magic Johnson, who was the better offensive player?

Vampirate · Post #1 » by **Vampirate** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:50 pm

Who do you have?

This should be interesting to see what stats people value here offensively.

Defense is not in the discussion here, mind you.

70sFan · Post #2 » by **70sFan** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:51 pm

It's as close as it gets, but I prefer Magic offensively.

Perseus1966 · Post #3 » by **Perseus1966** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:53 pm

dont compare MJ with other players pleae.

HotRocks34 · Post #4 » by **HotRocks34** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:55 pm

Jordan.

When Jordan was forced to play point guard for a stretch of time, I think it was like 1987-88 season, I think he averaged a triple double during that time.

I love Magic but he can't score like Jordan could. Magic is the better passer, of course, but MJ could pass when he wanted to.

Sark · Post #5 » by **Sark** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:07 pm

Jordan played in an offense designed to take the ball out of his hands. In the 3 seasons before the triangle he put 37/5/5, 35/6/6, and 33/8/8.

Magic played in an offense designed to get him the ball all the time.

KembaWalker · Post #6 » by **KembaWalker** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:08 pm

Theres no good argument for Magic, and he would tell you so himself. Anyone who says otherwise is trying too hard to be a special snowflake

falcolombardi · Post #7 » by **falcolombardi** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:08 pm

is very close tbh, wouldnr know who to choose

70sFan · Post #8 » by **70sFan** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:09 pm

Perseus1966 wrote:dont compare MJ with other players pleae.

Why not?

falcolombardi · Post #9 » by **falcolombardi** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:09 pm

Perseus1966 wrote:dont compare MJ with other players pleae.

why not?

70sFan · Post #10 » by **70sFan** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:11 pm

HotRocks34 wrote:When Jordan was forced to play point guard for a stretch of time, I think it was like 1987-88 season, I think he averaged a triple double during that time.

He did that in 1988/89 season, while anchoring +1.3 offense. Sure, it's a nice triva but I fail to see what it proves.

I love Magic but he can't score like Jordan could. Magic is the better passer, of course, but MJ could pass when he wanted to.

I love Jordan but he can't pass like Magic could. Jordan is the better scorer, of course, but Magic could score when he wanted to.

70sFan · Post #11 » by **70sFan** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:12 pm

KembaWalker wrote:Theres no good argument for Magic, and he would tell you so himself. Anyone who says otherwise is trying too hard to be a special snowflake

Seriously? Snowflake?

MrBigShot · Post #12 » by **MrBigShot** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:15 pm

KembaWalker wrote:Theres no good argument for Magic, and he would tell you so himself. Anyone who says otherwise is trying too hard to be a special snowflake

This. There is no argument whatsoever. Certainly not via the eye test, and Magic's advanced stats don't even remotely compare to MJ's either.

KembaWalker · Post #13 » by **KembaWalker** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:26 pm

70sFan wrote:
KembaWalker wrote:Theres no good argument for Magic, and he would tell you so himself. Anyone who says otherwise is trying too hard to be a special snowflake

Seriously? Snowflake?

Someone who find personal value in nonconformity to an indefensible degree, yes

70sFan · Post #14 » by **70sFan** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:33 pm

KembaWalker wrote:
70sFan wrote:
KembaWalker wrote:Theres no good argument for Magic, and he would tell you so himself. Anyone who says otherwise is trying too hard to be a special snowflake

Seriously? Snowflake?

Someone who find personal value in nonconformity to an indefensible degree, yes

I know what it means, it's just that the way you used it is ridiculous. There is absolutely nothing wrong going with Magic over Jordan for offensive peaks.

Big J · Post #15 » by **Big J** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:43 pm

Why do we keep getting these threads with poll questions that are obvious?

twyzted · Post #16 » by **twyzted** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:45 pm

70sFan wrote:
KembaWalker wrote:
70sFan wrote:Seriously? Snowflake?

Someone who find personal value in nonconformity to an indefensible degree, yes

I know what it means, it's just that the way you used it is ridiculous. There is absolutely nothing wrong going with Magic over Jordan for offensive peaks.

Alright lets hear your argument for Magic over Jordan?

falcolombardi · Post #17 » by **falcolombardi** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:46 pm

no offense but jordan fans are really sensible whenever he gets compared with other great players lol

falcolombardi · Post #18 » by **falcolombardi** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:47 pm

twyzted wrote:
70sFan wrote:
KembaWalker wrote:
Someone who find personal value in nonconformity to an indefensible degree, yes

I know what it means, it's just that the way you used it is ridiculous. There is absolutely nothing wrong going with Magic over Jordan for offensive peaks.

Alright lets hear your argument for Magic over Jordan?

he was a much better passer and created better offenses than jordan for starters

Vampirate · Post #19 » by **Vampirate** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:49 pm

Big J wrote:Why do we keep getting these threads with poll questions that are obvious?

Because people value scoring 10 times more than they value playmaking.

It's pretty much what it boils down to.

I never asked who was the better player overall, just who was better offensively.

Quattro · Post #20 » by **Quattro** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:52 pm

KembaWalker wrote:
70sFan wrote:
KembaWalker wrote:Theres no good argument for Magic, and he would tell you so himself. Anyone who says otherwise is trying too hard to be a special snowflake

Seriously? Snowflake?

Someone who find personal value in nonconformity to an indefensible degree, yes

In the good old days before people forgot how to communicate with each other, we used to call this an “opinion”.

Who was the better offensive player?