College/Draft thread. Knicks Currently have Picks 12 and 45

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Anyone think Walker Kessler could be a decent stretch 5 if we trade down?

He shot 58% from the line his two years in college and is shooting 21% on threes, what gives the idea he's a stretch big?


Freethrow percentage is a good indicator of shooting potential, he doesn't have much.

[thebuzzardman]

Anyone think Walker Kessler could be a decent stretch 5 if we trade down?

He shot 58% from the line his two years in college and is shooting 21% on threes, what gives the idea he's a stretch big?


Freethrow percentage is a good indicator of shooting potential, he doesn't have much.

Knicks gonna draft Caucasian Mo Bamba?

[Zenzibar]

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I like him but he sure does have a slow and very low release in his shot.

He's beening compared as a Khris Middlteton clone with higher defensive upside. Were do I sign?

[bleedblue3303]

I'm so thrilled we went on that end of year winning streak to move us to 11th when we were only 1 or 2 games in front of the kings. I mean who wanted to be 7th where Sharpe is projected to go. Unreal!!

[newyorker4ever]

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I like him but he sure does have a slow and very low release in his shot.

He's beening compared as a Khris Middlteton clone with higher defensive upside. Were do I sign?

People on here are comparing him to B.Beal which i don't see at all and i don't remember K.Middelton's shot being that slow and low but if he can be KM then sign me up as well.

[bleedblue3303]

I'm becoming more and more of a Dyson Daniels fan.

[2010]

Is this the worst PG draft class of all time? Find me an inferior class at the position.

[robillionaire]

Is this the worst PG draft class of all time? Find me an inferior class at the guard position.

2015 was pretty bad

[2010]

Is this the worst PG draft class of all time? Find me an inferior class at the guard position.

2015 was pretty bad

D’Angelo Russell and Terry Rozier probably top the PGs in this years class once their careers are said and done.

[Fat]

Cool with any of Washington, Williams, or Brahman at 11

[robillionaire]

Is this the worst PG draft class of all time? Find me an inferior class at the guard position.

2015 was pretty bad

D’Angelo Russell and Terry Rozier probably top the PGs in this years class once their careers are said and done.

Could be but that’s not a very high bar if just like one guy like jaden Ivey breaks out or something, but yeah your point stands it’s a very weak class

[2010]

2015 was pretty bad

D’Angelo Russell and Terry Rozier probably top the PGs in this years class once their careers are said and done.

Could be but that’s not a very high bar if just like one guy like jaden Ivey breaks out or something, but yeah your point stands it’s a very weak class

Yeah. But to your point about Ivey, I consider him more of a SG who can handle the ball.

It’s looking like Washington might be the only real PG drafted in the 1st round. Which is kinda nuts.

[robillionaire]

D’Angelo Russell and Terry Rozier probably top the PGs in this years class once their careers are said and done.

Could be but that’s not a very high bar if just like one guy like jaden Ivey breaks out or something, but yeah your point stands it’s a very weak class

Yeah. But to your point about Ivey, I consider him more of a SG who can handle the ball.

It’s looking like Washington might be the only real PG drafted in the 1st round. Which is kinda nuts.

I kinda say the same about Rozier though and maybe even Russell

[WargamesX]

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This kid going top 10 without playing in college makes sense.

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I know they are both Australian so this might come off lazy…but I see him and I think of a smaller Joe Ingles. However, just like Joe if he isn’t hitting the 3 he isn’t really a good player. He isn’t really 6’8, at least not based on combine measurements. That tweet said he is 6’5 in socks so that is what he will look like against most comp. I think he is probably 6’6 based on seeing him standing next to Cade who is 6’6 too.

Any If the Knicks trust his 3pt shot form (because the numbers are trash) he would be a great fit on this roster. If he can’t make that 3 pt sho he won’t be in the league long, regardless of his skill.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Def won’t be there for us. Oh well

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[Jalen Bluntson]

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[thebuzzardman]

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I know they are both Australian so this might come off lazy…but I see him and I think of a smaller Joe Ingles. However, just like Joe if he isn’t hitting the 3 he isn’t really a good player. He isn’t really 6’8, at least not based on combine measurements. That tweet said he is 6’5 in socks so that is what he will look like against most comp. I think he is probably 6’6 based on seeing him standing next to Cade who is 6’6 too.

Any If the Knicks trust his 3pt shot form (because the numbers are trash) he would be a great fit on this roster. If he can’t make that 3 pt sho he won’t be in the league long, regardless of his skill.

Knicks going to draft Australian Ntilikina

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I know they are both Australian so this might come off lazy…but I see him and I think of a smaller Joe Ingles. However, just like Joe if he isn’t hitting the 3 he isn’t really a good player. He isn’t really 6’8, at least not based on combine measurements. That tweet said he is 6’5 in socks so that is what he will look like against most comp. I think he is probably 6’6 based on seeing him standing next to Cade who is 6’6 too.

Any If the Knicks trust his 3pt shot form (because the numbers are trash) he would be a great fit on this roster. If he can’t make that 3 pt sho he won’t be in the league long, regardless of his skill.

Knicks going to draft Australian Ntilikina

That's the risk...

Funny story about Frank and the knicks. They never sent him to the G league to get development, so we can't compare their stats or games against the same level of competition. The prior regime didn't send Frank to the G league his rookie or second year like most teams would have to get minutes. As much as we are annoyed at Miles and Sims' time down there. It's another sign the FO is probably a lot more competent than prior regimes.

The best I could do is compare Frank's U19 to Dyson's U19 and its pretty clear where they are different at least at that level. Frank looks like a 3&D guard in that game who relied on shooting three's, didn't really play defense, and he drove to the mid range to take a contested shot (both times against mismatches). Dyson spent his most his game driving and doing floaters or finishing with either hand through contact. Dyson's passes for assists were good passes but he was either swinging the ball to the open man, or passing to the open man after driving and collapsing the defense. Similar to RJ, Dyson seeks contact, something Frank rarely did. I think if you slot him as a 4th option offensively, you would be good even if his 3 pt shot wasn't great, because he could scrape by getting drives.... though with the knicks the risk of a team going zone defense against them would make that harder.

I then was a Knicks masochist and compared Dyson's U19 to Tyrese Haliburton's U19 since he was the last guy a lot of people here said was a "Frank 2.0" player..... . I forgot how good Haliburton looked in U19, but watching Dyson against that, I definitely don't think he is a PG. He's a Glue Guy who I think needs people around him to open up his game. His usage rate screams Glue Guy too at 17% same as Joe's highest usage rate in Utah. Most PGs are putting up at least 20% usage rate. The only one around 17% is Lonzo Ball who isn't an ideal PG on most team and doesn't drive into contact like Dyson or Joe Ingles does. IQ’s usage rate is 22% for example which is the same for TyTy Washington.

[8516knicks]

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He looks and prob is great, but then almost anyone would look all world against that guy from Little Sisters of the Poor!